It's a Catholic thing so you tell me.
ECT Questions for Roman Catholics
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It's a Catholic thing so you tell me.
the church teaches Jesus is our mediator
Then what is going "through" Mary then? Nothing Scriptural about that.
Why is the name of Mary even used in Catholic prayers or for that matter in pictures and statues all over the church's and in almost every Catholics home? You find no such practice or tradition in the Scriptures. She seems to be treated as almost equal to Christ by the RCC, I would venture to say that even more than Christ.
For instance - www.how-to-pray-the-rosary-everyday.com/rosary-guide.html
Jesus went through mary to redeem us
You have said that before.
Evidently your religion can take you no further.
You yet have to explain why she needs to be gone through in prayers to either Jesus or the Father, no such way is mentioned in the Scriptures, in fact she is never even mentioned or referred to after the cross other than in Acts 1:14 that I have read.
It is only the Catholic Church that places her in that position, not the Word of God.
So if you can go no further, no need for us to either.
you are not going very far worrying about how we treat mary
Neither do the Scriptures treat Mary and give her the glorified position of going through her in prayer as the does RCC.
And for that matter neither did Christ, Mt.12:47-48, Mk.3:32-33 and Lk.8:20-21.
One would actually think that would have made her feel some what insulted or bad.
Catholicism, due to the false non-Scriptural veneration of Mary by the RCC.
Nothing more.
Cruciform
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To the extent that the human Jesus received his human nature from Mary, that would certainly follow.
I'm not even sure what this is supposed to mean. So I'll say no.
Not even close.
Try again.
Gaudium de veritate,
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Cruciform
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No doubt you much prefer ANTI-Catholic propaganda. In any case, your transparent excuse for avoiding relevant information is noted.
glassjester
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Nor is there a difference (to the outside observer) between praying to Zeus and praying to God. Remember what Paul actually wrote:
1 Cor. 8 said:
He is worried about the people that think (in their minds, remember) the idol is a god. He is worried that seeing a Christian in the idol's temple, participating in the ritual, will legitimize the false belief that the idol-worshiper already holds (namely, that the idol is a god). He is not worried about a merely visual similarity.
As far as not making statues goes - are we to have no statues at all? Is it wrong to visit the Lincoln Memorial? Or does this command only pertain to statues of a certain kind? If so, which?
amen
How many people do you see bowing with folded hands praying to the statue of Lincoln?
Mary and all the rest of your so-called saints (statues/idols) are nothing but non-Scriptural traditions of men adopted from paganism by the RCC. - "...for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship..." Acts 17:23, the Greeks had many gods of worship.
The truth is venerating and praying (example - How to pray to the Virgin Mary - www.wikihow.com/Pray-to-the-Virgin-Mary ) to any except the one and only Almighty God is against the Word of God!
www.gotquestions.org/worship-saints-Mary.html
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/cat971.html
glassjester
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Lincoln's ok? So... Scripture only forbids statues of a certain type, then? What type?
Answered in Ex.20:4-5
I don't think you will find that part in the Cath's version of the TC's though, it has been eliminated and the answer for doing so should be obvious as seen within the Cath's religion.
Apparently, brazen serpents are O.K., but not the Mother of God.
Numbers 21:8 And the Lord said to him: Make brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: whosoever being struck shall look on it, shall live. [9] Moses therefore made a brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: which when they that were bitten looked upon, they were healed.
Numbers 21:8 And the Lord said to him: Make brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: whosoever being struck shall look on it, shall live. [9] Moses therefore made a brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: which when they that were bitten looked upon, they were healed.
glassjester
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Seems like that prohibition would include Honest Abe. Why doesn't it?
"for a sign", not a so-called saint supposedly in heaven who hears.
"Looked upon", not bowed to, not prayed to or through.
Try again.
Just because the Cath's TC,s have eliminated the 2nd Commandment as written in Ex.20:4-6 to make saint's idol worship as approved don't be fooled or worse yet, try to lead others astray into following such a pagan tradition.
www.jesus-is-lord.com/tencomma.htm