So what. The body is not a calorie machine, it is a chemstry machine. Your body funcitons on fatty acids that you consume. Calories is a byproduct of that function.
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So what. The body is not a calorie machine, it is a chemstry machine. Your body funcitons on fatty acids that you consume. Calories is a byproduct of that function.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
zoo22
Well-known member
What a strange thing to say.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94358
Chrys, this thread might help your program.
Chrys, this thread might help your program.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
spiritual technology.......
spiritual technology.......
Thing about 'programs' is...they are subject to revisions, modifications and can even be deleted, if they no longer serve the creator's purpose or true aims.
Applying computer terms and analogies to religious programs or spirituality can be fun with various software applications, seeing how they inter-face with the hardware, but more interesting is the intelligence behind the programming, however pure or distorted it is, and how that information can be further 'formatted' within any given application. Its been criticized by those more 'spiritual', that religious programming can become tedious, life-less, mechanical, and even a hindrance to the true movement of the Spirit (if it no longer serves as a medium for Spirit), so that man's programs must be set aside for the Spirit's direct inspiration. In any case, it might be wise to consider if we have been religiously 'programmed' more or less, and if these programs are truly intelligent and useful, or subject to be changed, upgraded or transcended altogether.
There may not be anything wrong with 'programs' per se, but we would judge the purpose, intent, content, usefulness and aims of such a program, in the greater network of the matrix.
There is also a condition of pure being or awareness that is wholly without any programming whatsoever, because it already always stands entirey FREE of any. This pure awareness or Spirit-being is prior to and beyond any programming, although programs may arise in the play of creation as experimentation and creative experience.
pj
spiritual technology.......
Thing about 'programs' is...they are subject to revisions, modifications and can even be deleted, if they no longer serve the creator's purpose or true aims.
Applying computer terms and analogies to religious programs or spirituality can be fun with various software applications, seeing how they inter-face with the hardware, but more interesting is the intelligence behind the programming, however pure or distorted it is, and how that information can be further 'formatted' within any given application. Its been criticized by those more 'spiritual', that religious programming can become tedious, life-less, mechanical, and even a hindrance to the true movement of the Spirit (if it no longer serves as a medium for Spirit), so that man's programs must be set aside for the Spirit's direct inspiration. In any case, it might be wise to consider if we have been religiously 'programmed' more or less, and if these programs are truly intelligent and useful, or subject to be changed, upgraded or transcended altogether.
There may not be anything wrong with 'programs' per se, but we would judge the purpose, intent, content, usefulness and aims of such a program, in the greater network of the matrix.
There is also a condition of pure being or awareness that is wholly without any programming whatsoever, because it already always stands entirey FREE of any. This pure awareness or Spirit-being is prior to and beyond any programming, although programs may arise in the play of creation as experimentation and creative experience.
pj
sometimes I actually think I understand what you are trying to say
and
then I remind myself that it just can't be
but
it did get me thinking at least about the words you are using
we all have been programmed is some way
and
it is possible to revise that program
but
you can't change who or what we are
this person was having lousy luck with a dating service
so I asked what she put down for religion and she said none
I told her to put down catholic because that was the way she was raised
we then had a huge argument over that
and
to this day I still believe you can't ignore how you were raised without ending up being very disturbed
annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
It's hard to change what you've been programmed with from childhood but it's not impossible.
But if she's not Catholic now, then you were telling her to misrepresent herself.
I think it depends on how you were raised. Some things have to be ignored.
zoo22
Well-known member
I feel similarly when I read a lot of your posts.
lain:I like that.
I don't think I agree. Yes, we've all been programmed, and yes, it's possible to revise that program. I guess that because we can never change our past, we can never change who or what we are, so at some extreme level I agree with you, but really, I think it depends on the circumstances and the person, and I think you can revise the program so much that in practical terms, it doesn't apply anymore.
Well, for good reason. She shouldn't have put down Catholic if she wasn't Catholic anymore. That question wasn't asking about how she was raised, but what she believed now. Maybe it could be a helpful question, on a more complicated questionnaire, to ask about how people were raised, but I think it would become very complicated very quickly.
I think that's true in some cases. Certainly not all.
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
software inspection.......
software inspection.......
What is provided are both appetizers and a full course meal in 'word', depending on your palate and taste-capacity - I think most would gather my writing style and intent is meant to stimulate thought, research and expansion of consciousness. After all, that's what freelight seems to be all about most of the time (besides a few other perks and surprises).
Yes, about the 'programming'. Do these programs have any true value beyond conventional or religious assumption? Systems are open to be revised, reformed, revamped, transformed even.
As far as who and what we are,....in our pure essence,....we are of the substance and nature of pure awareness. At the heart of our real nature.....we ARE. This reality reflects back to itself, in the most primal statement of "I Am". There is one thing I innately know firsthand, and that is my own existence, or existence itself. This reality is before any name, form, concept or assumption. It is essentially free of programming, although it may thru the medium of 'mind' adopt any number of programs.
It might be helpful to have a place where one can put their "religious upbringing/background". One can then lay out their religious pedigree-chart, from oldest affiliations to most current like I do here in my profile. While we have an unchanging nature, we also have aspects of our being or personality that are ever-changing, evolving, transforming. Life has both unchanging and changing features to it...such is a paradox.
If one is moving along the spiritual path of growth and learning, all past events serve one's journey towards greater truth and wisdom, via experience. Experience on an evolutional scale can only take place via intercourse in space-time. One can discern negative programming and move beyond such. This appears to be what learning is about.
pj
software inspection.......
What is provided are both appetizers and a full course meal in 'word', depending on your palate and taste-capacity
- I think most would gather my writing style and intent is meant to stimulate thought, research and expansion of consciousness. After all, that's what freelight seems to be all about most of the time (besides a few other perks and surprises).Yes, about the 'programming'. Do these programs have any true value beyond conventional or religious assumption? Systems are open to be revised, reformed, revamped, transformed even.
As far as who and what we are,....in our pure essence,....we are of the substance and nature of pure awareness. At the heart of our real nature.....we ARE. This reality reflects back to itself, in the most primal statement of "I Am". There is one thing I innately know firsthand, and that is my own existence, or existence itself. This reality is before any name, form, concept or assumption. It is essentially free of programming, although it may thru the medium of 'mind' adopt any number of programs.
It might be helpful to have a place where one can put their "religious upbringing/background". One can then lay out their religious pedigree-chart, from oldest affiliations to most current like I do here in my profile. While we have an unchanging nature, we also have aspects of our being or personality that are ever-changing, evolving, transforming. Life has both unchanging and changing features to it...such is a paradox.
If one is moving along the spiritual path of growth and learning, all past events serve one's journey towards greater truth and wisdom, via experience. Experience on an evolutional scale can only take place via intercourse in space-time. One can discern negative programming and move beyond such. This appears to be what learning is about.
pj
it was a stupid questionnaire
and
she was not meeting the right people
she could change that by saying she was catholic
she would then meet people who speak the same language
maybe the title should have been
programmed
programmed
zoo22
Well-known member
The language of lies?
bigot
zoo22
Well-known member
I didn't mean that Catholics are liars. I meant she would be lying if she said she was Catholic. It didn't even cross my mind that what I said could be interpreted as saying Catholics are liars. I apologize if you misunderstood.
zoo22
Well-known member
Of course it's a lie, whether or not it's a stupid questionnaire. Her lying to people about her being Catholic when she's not Catholic isn't the solution. A solution is to find a better dating service.
now think about this zoo
if
she put down agnostic
she might end up dating someone like you
zoo22
Well-known member
Would she have been lying?
an agnostic doesn't know if they are lying