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1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Believe it!
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He can't believe it because he hasn't perservered unto the end yet proving himself to be one of "the elect".
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What God done for the elect !
What God done for the elect !
This is where the calvinist go wrong, in addition to their christology, and that is the point of special faith, that act of the elect through the work of the Holy Ghost, when given to apprehend the righteousness of Jesus christ for Justification of life. This special faith does not give the elect the right to Justification of life [ causatively], but , by Faith they come to enjoy it and finding consciously that peace between them and God on behalf of Jesus Christ obedience on their behalf. The Actual Justification of life, is an eternal immanent act of God the Father, who from everlasting, gave or imputed it to the elect world 2 Cor 5:19
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
This is simple, the elect world never had their sins laid personally to their charge, because they were laid to the charge of Jesus Christ.and in turn His righteousness was imputed to them, which is their Justification before God.
The Holy Ghost in time and during the lifetime of each vessel of mercy, He is sent to make Known this Justification that the elect had in their Head from everlasting, even before their creation and subsequent fall in Adam.
Both the arminian and the todays calvinist deny Justification before God solely on the merits of Jesus Christ.
Here be the difference.The arminian believes they are Justified by the flesh, in other words, they deny the need of regeneration to be Justified before God, just an act of their will can produce Justification, their believing, whereas the calvinist believe a work of the Holy Spirit is needed to make one Justified before God, but both teachings deny Justification before God solely by the Work of Jesus Christ alone, apart from freewill and apart from regeneration and faith.
What God done for the elect !
This is where the calvinist go wrong, in addition to their christology, and that is the point of special faith, that act of the elect through the work of the Holy Ghost, when given to apprehend the righteousness of Jesus christ for Justification of life. This special faith does not give the elect the right to Justification of life [ causatively], but , by Faith they come to enjoy it and finding consciously that peace between them and God on behalf of Jesus Christ obedience on their behalf. The Actual Justification of life, is an eternal immanent act of God the Father, who from everlasting, gave or imputed it to the elect world 2 Cor 5:19
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
This is simple, the elect world never had their sins laid personally to their charge, because they were laid to the charge of Jesus Christ.and in turn His righteousness was imputed to them, which is their Justification before God.
The Holy Ghost in time and during the lifetime of each vessel of mercy, He is sent to make Known this Justification that the elect had in their Head from everlasting, even before their creation and subsequent fall in Adam.
Both the arminian and the todays calvinist deny Justification before God solely on the merits of Jesus Christ.
Here be the difference.The arminian believes they are Justified by the flesh, in other words, they deny the need of regeneration to be Justified before God, just an act of their will can produce Justification, their believing, whereas the calvinist believe a work of the Holy Spirit is needed to make one Justified before God, but both teachings deny Justification before God solely by the Work of Jesus Christ alone, apart from freewill and apart from regeneration and faith.
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Preaching the record God has given of His Son
preaching the record God has given of His Son
1 Jn 5:10-11
10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
The Gospel is a testimonial of The record that God has given us [ the election] of His Son, of which testimony, its declared that God has given to us eternal life, and that it was in His Son..
Only those whom God calls and equip with a understanding of the Gospel and of His Son, are qualified to bear witness of this Gospel record and what it entails.
The Gospel elucidates what it means when John writes, that this life was given us in His Son.
For when was the us in the Son ? Well, first of all, by election, we [ the elect] were in Him before the foundation of the World.
Eph 1:3-4
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Titus 1:1
1Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
2In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised [to His Son and his Sons seed in Him] before the world began;
This is the record God has given to His Holy Apostles as here testified by them.
The Fact of a previous Union with Christ is the basis for all spiritual life that the elect experience in this life and that one to come..
In other words, A life must have been given us [ the elect] in Jesus Christ the Son of God, before the world began, before we partake of it Here below by the New Birth.
The exact is True of the elects physical life in Adam, that it existed in Adam before it was later manifested via physical birth of our parents.
Our being born into the natural world, did not make us the sons or daughters of Adam and eve, for eve was declared to be the Mother of the Living before her children were born. Gen 3:20
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Now, who was actually living then, besides her head and husband ?
But they had a seed in them, in the head of course, and she even later testifies to it here Gen 4:25
And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me [Under Adam] another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
Her seed must be Adams seed also, for He is Her Head.
So back to the point, the elect had a union with Adam, and were his children in Him, before they became manifested by natural birth.
so it can be truly said, that the record proves, that God had given us life [physical] and this Life was in His Son Adam. who could deny it, if it wasn't true, the elect could not have been brought forth physically and been manifested.
Now, and So likewise, our [ The elect] generation or birth Spiritually, is the Manifestation of that Life which was given us [ the elect] in Christ before the World began, and this is why later in our lifetime we are manifested as Gods children by new birth. for the new birth of every child of God is merely a manifestation of them having been in Jesus Christ [Gods Son] as His seed, just as our physical birth is merely a manifestation of having been Adam's natural seed.
Both manifestations required a previous Union with a Head .and this previous union with Jesus Christ is a gospel truth of the record that God gave of His Son to the Apostles, and in turned they preached or bare witness to the same.
John writes 1 Jn 5:11
11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
This gives us to understand, that the Apostles believed and preached eternal life given based upon a previous union we [ the elect] had with the Son of God a life we had in Him, though not yet manifested.
And those who don't believe this record, this witness, has made God a Liar.
10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
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preaching the record God has given of His Son
1 Jn 5:10-11
10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
The Gospel is a testimonial of The record that God has given us [ the election] of His Son, of which testimony, its declared that God has given to us eternal life, and that it was in His Son..
Only those whom God calls and equip with a understanding of the Gospel and of His Son, are qualified to bear witness of this Gospel record and what it entails.
The Gospel elucidates what it means when John writes, that this life was given us in His Son.
For when was the us in the Son ? Well, first of all, by election, we [ the elect] were in Him before the foundation of the World.
Eph 1:3-4
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Titus 1:1
1Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
2In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised [to His Son and his Sons seed in Him] before the world began;
This is the record God has given to His Holy Apostles as here testified by them.
The Fact of a previous Union with Christ is the basis for all spiritual life that the elect experience in this life and that one to come..
In other words, A life must have been given us [ the elect] in Jesus Christ the Son of God, before the world began, before we partake of it Here below by the New Birth.
The exact is True of the elects physical life in Adam, that it existed in Adam before it was later manifested via physical birth of our parents.
Our being born into the natural world, did not make us the sons or daughters of Adam and eve, for eve was declared to be the Mother of the Living before her children were born. Gen 3:20
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Now, who was actually living then, besides her head and husband ?
But they had a seed in them, in the head of course, and she even later testifies to it here Gen 4:25
And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me [Under Adam] another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
Her seed must be Adams seed also, for He is Her Head.
So back to the point, the elect had a union with Adam, and were his children in Him, before they became manifested by natural birth.
so it can be truly said, that the record proves, that God had given us life [physical] and this Life was in His Son Adam. who could deny it, if it wasn't true, the elect could not have been brought forth physically and been manifested.
Now, and So likewise, our [ The elect] generation or birth Spiritually, is the Manifestation of that Life which was given us [ the elect] in Christ before the World began, and this is why later in our lifetime we are manifested as Gods children by new birth. for the new birth of every child of God is merely a manifestation of them having been in Jesus Christ [Gods Son] as His seed, just as our physical birth is merely a manifestation of having been Adam's natural seed.
Both manifestations required a previous Union with a Head .and this previous union with Jesus Christ is a gospel truth of the record that God gave of His Son to the Apostles, and in turned they preached or bare witness to the same.
John writes 1 Jn 5:11
11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
This gives us to understand, that the Apostles believed and preached eternal life given based upon a previous union we [ the elect] had with the Son of God a life we had in Him, though not yet manifested.
And those who don't believe this record, this witness, has made God a Liar.
10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
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1 Cor 10:17
17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
Paul here is speaking to those who are the called, the church of God, the sanctified in Christ Jesus , the chosen i.e 1 Cor 1:1-2
1 Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
2Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours's:
Paul tells a Gospel Truth, A mystery in Fact, How that believers had been one body, though many members, yet one body..
Jesus Christ died for His body, those whom He was One with, He as their Head, they His body..
For from the beginning, the beginning of all things, Jesus Christ existed as the Head of His body per Col 1:17-18
17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Note, Who is the beginning as the Head of the body, the church. That means that we [ the elect, the church] was with Him in the beginning. Our Life or the lives of His Members, His body, was with Him in the beginning.
Now get this, Jesus Christ body was broken for those who were His body.
1 Cor 11: 23, 24
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Talking about understanding the Union between Jesus Christ and His body..
If this doesn't prove particular redemption, then nothing does Jesus Christ death, the breaking of His body, was for His body..
Paul says in Eph 5 that the Lord is the Saviour of the body: vs 23
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the Saviour of the body.
He is the Saviour of the body, His body, the church, why ? Because She His Body, the Church, Sinned in adam her natural head.
And Paul is saying here, that Jesus Christ is the Saviour of His Body, the church of which He is Head of. and Jesus Christ was not the head of the seed of the serpent eve Gen 3 15.
His body becoming sinful by her sin in Adam, He took it as His responsibility, for He was legally able to [being her Head], to suffer Her punishment, that she deserved, for breaking Gods Law.
Thats why Paul says that He is the Saviour of the body. When the body, the church sinned in Adam, she, though sinful and reprehensible, was not responsible for the legal guilt [condemnation] that she incurred, but the legal guilt [condemnation] was transferred [or imputed] to her Head, The Lord Jesus Christ. God viewed, not her, but Her head as the guilty party, though He did no sin [ personally].Because she sinned, His body, He, The Lord Christ her head, must die..
Lk 9:22
Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
Why must he be slain, because His body, his wife, his members, sinned against His and their Father.
You see , even Gods Love for His own Son, and His body, could not set aside, or wink at the Justice due to His broken Law by them.though they [his members] did not have to die, He must Job says:
Job 33:24
Then he is gracious unto him, and saith, Deliver him from going down to the pit: I have found a ransom.
Zech 9 11
11As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners [your members] out of the pit wherein is no water.
This would be the blood of the everlasting covenant whereby Jesus was made a surety for His body, His wife, His church..
Again, Jesus Christ body was broken for those who were His body.. 1 Cor 12:27
27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
Eph 1:22-23
22And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
He gave himself for his church, the body Eph 5:30
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church [ his body], and gave himself for it [His body or church];
Folk this is the Mystery Paul was given to Preach. Eph 5:31-32
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Jesus left His Father and was Joined to His wife, by becoming Flesh per Heb 2:14
14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Jesus became one flesh with His wife, Joined Her here on earth.
His incarnation into flesh and blood was his joining her and becoming one flesh with her save the sin. He was in the likeness of sinful flesh. and did not become a sinner as they had became in the flesh .but nevertheless, though she had become sinful, He was not ashamed of Her still.
Heb 2:11
11For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
The Fall of the body of Christ in Adam, did not deter his great love for her .because nevertheless, they were one, all of one Father.
as the Mystery is unveiled we have Gen 2 :24
24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. cp Heb 2:14
14Forasmuch then as the children [body] are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Eph 5:30-32
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
This is a great mystery, vs 30..that sinful men and women by nature, were members of his body, of his flesh, and his bones. That they were one flesh.
This is the Mystery of the Gospel which was revealed to him per Gal 1:11-12
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul said the Gospel which was preached of him, is not after man, but by Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ revealed the Mystery of the gospel, and for whom it was that He died for..it was for His wife, his members, His body..
That was the Mystery revealed to Him, and he boldly preached it Eph 6:19
19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Paul preached this mystery to the Corinthians, for He restates he received it 1 Cor 15:3-4
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
he spoke of it as a mystery to them 1 Cor 2:7
7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
we know he viewed them as Jesus Christ wife or bride 2 Cor 11:2
2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
one husband, because He knew by Revelation, that Jesus Christ only laid down His Life for his body, whom He was one flesh with, His wife..thats a great mystery.
And if one is preaching any other gospel, universalism, unlimited atonement, freewill-ism , its not according to truth
if one is not preaching that Christ died for His church, His wife, His body, but adds to it, its because they are unenlightened
And, The devil and His children, have no part in this matter and salvation.
17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
Paul here is speaking to those who are the called, the church of God, the sanctified in Christ Jesus , the chosen i.e 1 Cor 1:1-2
1 Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
2Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours's:
Paul tells a Gospel Truth, A mystery in Fact, How that believers had been one body, though many members, yet one body..
Jesus Christ died for His body, those whom He was One with, He as their Head, they His body..
For from the beginning, the beginning of all things, Jesus Christ existed as the Head of His body per Col 1:17-18
17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Note, Who is the beginning as the Head of the body, the church. That means that we [ the elect, the church] was with Him in the beginning. Our Life or the lives of His Members, His body, was with Him in the beginning.
Now get this, Jesus Christ body was broken for those who were His body.
1 Cor 11: 23, 24
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Talking about understanding the Union between Jesus Christ and His body..
If this doesn't prove particular redemption, then nothing does Jesus Christ death, the breaking of His body, was for His body..
Paul says in Eph 5 that the Lord is the Saviour of the body: vs 23
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the Saviour of the body.
He is the Saviour of the body, His body, the church, why ? Because She His Body, the Church, Sinned in adam her natural head.
And Paul is saying here, that Jesus Christ is the Saviour of His Body, the church of which He is Head of. and Jesus Christ was not the head of the seed of the serpent eve Gen 3 15.
His body becoming sinful by her sin in Adam, He took it as His responsibility, for He was legally able to [being her Head], to suffer Her punishment, that she deserved, for breaking Gods Law.
Thats why Paul says that He is the Saviour of the body. When the body, the church sinned in Adam, she, though sinful and reprehensible, was not responsible for the legal guilt [condemnation] that she incurred, but the legal guilt [condemnation] was transferred [or imputed] to her Head, The Lord Jesus Christ. God viewed, not her, but Her head as the guilty party, though He did no sin [ personally].Because she sinned, His body, He, The Lord Christ her head, must die..
Lk 9:22
Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
Why must he be slain, because His body, his wife, his members, sinned against His and their Father.
You see , even Gods Love for His own Son, and His body, could not set aside, or wink at the Justice due to His broken Law by them.though they [his members] did not have to die, He must Job says:
Job 33:24
Then he is gracious unto him, and saith, Deliver him from going down to the pit: I have found a ransom.
Zech 9 11
11As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners [your members] out of the pit wherein is no water.
This would be the blood of the everlasting covenant whereby Jesus was made a surety for His body, His wife, His church..
Again, Jesus Christ body was broken for those who were His body.. 1 Cor 12:27
27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
Eph 1:22-23
22And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
23Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
He gave himself for his church, the body Eph 5:30
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church [ his body], and gave himself for it [His body or church];
Folk this is the Mystery Paul was given to Preach. Eph 5:31-32
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Jesus left His Father and was Joined to His wife, by becoming Flesh per Heb 2:14
14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Jesus became one flesh with His wife, Joined Her here on earth.
His incarnation into flesh and blood was his joining her and becoming one flesh with her save the sin. He was in the likeness of sinful flesh. and did not become a sinner as they had became in the flesh .but nevertheless, though she had become sinful, He was not ashamed of Her still.
Heb 2:11
11For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
The Fall of the body of Christ in Adam, did not deter his great love for her .because nevertheless, they were one, all of one Father.
as the Mystery is unveiled we have Gen 2 :24
24Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. cp Heb 2:14
14Forasmuch then as the children [body] are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Eph 5:30-32
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
This is a great mystery, vs 30..that sinful men and women by nature, were members of his body, of his flesh, and his bones. That they were one flesh.
This is the Mystery of the Gospel which was revealed to him per Gal 1:11-12
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Paul said the Gospel which was preached of him, is not after man, but by Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ revealed the Mystery of the gospel, and for whom it was that He died for..it was for His wife, his members, His body..
That was the Mystery revealed to Him, and he boldly preached it Eph 6:19
19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Paul preached this mystery to the Corinthians, for He restates he received it 1 Cor 15:3-4
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
he spoke of it as a mystery to them 1 Cor 2:7
7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
we know he viewed them as Jesus Christ wife or bride 2 Cor 11:2
2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
one husband, because He knew by Revelation, that Jesus Christ only laid down His Life for his body, whom He was one flesh with, His wife..thats a great mystery.
And if one is preaching any other gospel, universalism, unlimited atonement, freewill-ism , its not according to truth
if one is not preaching that Christ died for His church, His wife, His body, but adds to it, its because they are unenlightened
And, The devil and His children, have no part in this matter and salvation.
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beloved57
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The Gospel Promises, the blessings of the everlasting covenant, are only applied [ by the Holy Ghost] to the seed of the women [ which is Jesus Christ and His body] in distinction to the seed of the serpent..
Gen 3:15
15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Lets look a two passages first, the Typical Christ in David:
Ps 89:1
3I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant, cp with
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4According as he hath chosen us in him [ David or Jesus Christ] before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Remember David speaking of His house ? This to is typical of the Anti-type Jesus Christ..
2 Sam 23:5
Although my [David] house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.
Whats ordered in all things and sure ? All the promises..hence all the Gospel Promises centered in the everlasting covenant to Jesus Christ, the Anti-typical David, and to His seed in Him..You see Jesus and His members are one..he is their head, they his body..
That seed of the women Gen 3:15, is the same as the election of grace Rom 11:5
5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
The seed of the women are those children of promise counted for the seed Rom 9:8
8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
And those under the purpose of election Rom 9:11
11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
This includes the elect seed of all time, of all nationalities..the seed of Abraham..
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Gen 3:15
15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Lets look a two passages first, the Typical Christ in David:
Ps 89:1
3I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant, cp with
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4According as he hath chosen us in him [ David or Jesus Christ] before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Remember David speaking of His house ? This to is typical of the Anti-type Jesus Christ..
2 Sam 23:5
Although my [David] house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.
Whats ordered in all things and sure ? All the promises..hence all the Gospel Promises centered in the everlasting covenant to Jesus Christ, the Anti-typical David, and to His seed in Him..You see Jesus and His members are one..he is their head, they his body..
That seed of the women Gen 3:15, is the same as the election of grace Rom 11:5
5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
The seed of the women are those children of promise counted for the seed Rom 9:8
8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
And those under the purpose of election Rom 9:11
11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
This includes the elect seed of all time, of all nationalities..the seed of Abraham..
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beloved57
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Forgiveness of sins !
The Gospel Promises The Forgiveness of sins.
This forgiveness is not conditioned on anything the forgiven must do or say, like confession, repenting, or believing. None of that, but all the stipulations and conditions were fulfilled by their Covenant Head, and His redemptive blood Eph 1:7
7In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
The word forgiveness is the greek word:
aphesis which means:
release from bondage or imprisonment
2) forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty
, Remission is the ideal, God letting them go as if they never had been committed. Remission of the penalty of sin period, past , present and future sin has been remitted and why ?
Not because of anything done by the sinner, but by grace by the blood of Christ. According according to the riches of Gods Grace.
This is a Covenant blessing however for a Covenant People Heb 8:10-12
10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
They will be remembered no more, because they have been taken out of the way by the cross .the lamb, the scapegoat.
Remember the scapegoat on the day of the atonement ?
Lev 16:7-10;20-22
7And he shall take the two goats, and present them before the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
8And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.
9And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD's lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.
10 But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.
Now further down:
20And when he hath made an end of reconciling the holy place, and the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat:
21And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their
transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
22And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.
Now, whose sins and transgressions were sent away, remitted ?
This is important .lets look at verse 21
21And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
A specific people, Gods chosen covenant people .all the rest of the world of peoples were omitted by God, God was pleased that they remain in ignorance.
And so it is today, The forgiveness of sin the Gospel proclaims is for the anti typical Children of Israel by which the writer of hebrews means in Heb 8:8-13
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
And this covenant people partake of the New Covenant in Jesus Christ blood, which is shed for many, why ? For the remission [ forgiveness] of sins.. Matt 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament[covenant], which is shed for many [The New Covenant Israel] for the remission of sins.
This is the Gospel I preach today, if one belongs to the new covenant Israel, the elect people of God, for you, Jesus Christ has shed his blood, for the remission of your sins, they are forgiven today, for Christ sake.
The Gospel Promises The Forgiveness of sins.
This forgiveness is not conditioned on anything the forgiven must do or say, like confession, repenting, or believing. None of that, but all the stipulations and conditions were fulfilled by their Covenant Head, and His redemptive blood Eph 1:7
7In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
The word forgiveness is the greek word:
aphesis which means:
release from bondage or imprisonment
2) forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty
, Remission is the ideal, God letting them go as if they never had been committed. Remission of the penalty of sin period, past , present and future sin has been remitted and why ?
Not because of anything done by the sinner, but by grace by the blood of Christ. According according to the riches of Gods Grace.
This is a Covenant blessing however for a Covenant People Heb 8:10-12
10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
They will be remembered no more, because they have been taken out of the way by the cross .the lamb, the scapegoat.
Remember the scapegoat on the day of the atonement ?
Lev 16:7-10;20-22
7And he shall take the two goats, and present them before the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
8And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat.
9And Aaron shall bring the goat upon which the LORD's lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.
10 But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.
Now further down:
20And when he hath made an end of reconciling the holy place, and the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar, he shall bring the live goat:
21And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their
transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
22And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.
Now, whose sins and transgressions were sent away, remitted ?
This is important .lets look at verse 21
21And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
A specific people, Gods chosen covenant people .all the rest of the world of peoples were omitted by God, God was pleased that they remain in ignorance.
And so it is today, The forgiveness of sin the Gospel proclaims is for the anti typical Children of Israel by which the writer of hebrews means in Heb 8:8-13
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
And this covenant people partake of the New Covenant in Jesus Christ blood, which is shed for many, why ? For the remission [ forgiveness] of sins.. Matt 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament[covenant], which is shed for many [The New Covenant Israel] for the remission of sins.
This is the Gospel I preach today, if one belongs to the new covenant Israel, the elect people of God, for you, Jesus Christ has shed his blood, for the remission of your sins, they are forgiven today, for Christ sake.
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NovusInquisitor
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The Devil (and sooner than later I'm afraid, the Antichrist) is a mockery of God. He does not run around with a pentagram on his forehead burning down churches. He is far more sublte than that. While it is true that he cannot TRULY create, he can twist and mutuate worldly things so that they have, for all intents and purposes, BECOME new. He may even do material good, but the hand of Christ is not present in any of his "gifts" only an unflinching, prevailing self love.
As for predestination, it is indefensible. If you sincerely believe in Predestination, stop reading this forum. It doesnt matter. Go burn your bible. Doesnt matter. Go have a wild orgy...getting the picture?
John Calvin makes the list of 5 dumbest people to achieve success
As for predestination, it is indefensible. If you sincerely believe in Predestination, stop reading this forum. It doesnt matter. Go burn your bible. Doesnt matter. Go have a wild orgy...getting the picture?
John Calvin makes the list of 5 dumbest people to achieve success
beloved57
Well-known member
Who Christ gave Himself for !
Who Christ gave Himself for !
Eph 5:25
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
It cant be no plainer than this, That scripture tells us who Christ particularly Loved and whom He gave [ His life] Himself for..
He died for the church, the ekklessia..when Paul wrote in 1 Cor 15:3
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
Paul here was not speaking of every human being, but of His church, his body.. for His church and body are the same..
Col 1:18
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
Notice, he endures afflictions for Christ body sake, the church, and it is for those of the body who are yet unconverted..
Just because an elect or a member of Christ body is born in sin, dead spiritually, enemies of God in their natural minds this doesn't mean they are not of His body, the church..
The church whom Christ Loved and gave Himself for, is that same entity he is said to have come and to seek and to save that [it] which was Lost
Lk 19:10
10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
The That in this verse, is the same as the it in Eph 5:25-26
Eph 5:25
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
The reason why Jesus Christ gave Himself for the church is twofold:
#1. vs 26
26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
For the purpose of its being sanctified, and cleansed with the washing of the Word..
The church needs to be sanctified and cleansed because its sinful by nature, all its members are by nature children of wrath [ not the devils children] by nature.
She is Sanctified by the Holy Ghost, and washed in the Truth of the Gospel The same order as in 2 Thess 2:13
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation
through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
So that's one reason why Jesus Christ gave himself for the church !
#2.vs 27
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
That He may perfect Her, Not they themselves, but that's His Goal through His giving himself for Her.to bring her to perfection without blemish before the Throne of His Father..
The writer in Hebrews says:
Heb 10:14
14For by one offering he [Jesus Christ] hath perfected for ever them[The church] that are sanctified.
The church has a Triune sanctification, by the Father in her election Jude 1:1
1Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
By the Son Heb 13:12
Wherefore Jesus also, that he [The Son] might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
And of course the holy Ghost 2 Thess 2:13
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth.
This is the purpose for Jesus Christ giving himself for the church, the called out ones, not the whole world of men, to include the devils seed, but to His body, the church, bone of His bone and flesh of his flesh..
Thats the gospel
Who Christ gave Himself for !
Eph 5:25
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
It cant be no plainer than this, That scripture tells us who Christ particularly Loved and whom He gave [ His life] Himself for..
He died for the church, the ekklessia..when Paul wrote in 1 Cor 15:3
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
Paul here was not speaking of every human being, but of His church, his body.. for His church and body are the same..
Col 1:18
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
Notice, he endures afflictions for Christ body sake, the church, and it is for those of the body who are yet unconverted..
Just because an elect or a member of Christ body is born in sin, dead spiritually, enemies of God in their natural minds this doesn't mean they are not of His body, the church..
The church whom Christ Loved and gave Himself for, is that same entity he is said to have come and to seek and to save that [it] which was Lost
Lk 19:10
10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
The That in this verse, is the same as the it in Eph 5:25-26
Eph 5:25
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
The reason why Jesus Christ gave Himself for the church is twofold:
#1. vs 26
26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
For the purpose of its being sanctified, and cleansed with the washing of the Word..
The church needs to be sanctified and cleansed because its sinful by nature, all its members are by nature children of wrath [ not the devils children] by nature.
She is Sanctified by the Holy Ghost, and washed in the Truth of the Gospel The same order as in 2 Thess 2:13
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation
through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
So that's one reason why Jesus Christ gave himself for the church !
#2.vs 27
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
That He may perfect Her, Not they themselves, but that's His Goal through His giving himself for Her.to bring her to perfection without blemish before the Throne of His Father..
The writer in Hebrews says:
Heb 10:14
14For by one offering he [Jesus Christ] hath perfected for ever them[The church] that are sanctified.
The church has a Triune sanctification, by the Father in her election Jude 1:1
1Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
By the Son Heb 13:12
Wherefore Jesus also, that he [The Son] might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
And of course the holy Ghost 2 Thess 2:13
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth.
This is the purpose for Jesus Christ giving himself for the church, the called out ones, not the whole world of men, to include the devils seed, but to His body, the church, bone of His bone and flesh of his flesh..
Thats the gospel
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beloved57
Well-known member
Eph 3:6
Eph 3:6
6That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
The Gospel Promises has always only been for a certain people, and not for all the world as in individuals, but it was now being manifested that it was for all the world geographically..in other words, the certain people for whom the gospel promises are for, did not just reside in the land of Israel, but that the seed of Abraham's was world wide and included the gentiles..
Thats why it was written by Paul about Abraham that God preached the Gospel to Him by saying:
Gal 3:8
8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen[gentiles] through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
hence Abraham's expectation was not merely a plot of land as His Canaan of promise, but the world..
Rom 4 13
13For the promise, that he[ Abraham] should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law ,[National Israel] but through the righteousness of faith.
This is pretty plain, that the Gospel promises to Abraham were not to His seed through the Law, meaning that earthly people that was delivered out of Egypt and given the Law Covenant at Sinai..
But through the righteousness of Faith, that perceived righteousness by the obedience of the One coming, Jesus Christ ..
Now back in my text it reads that the gentiles were partakers of the same promises..
Which promises of the Gospel were grounded in the New Covenant to who ? To all the world ? No.
The New Covenant promises of the Gospel were never for all the world [ as individuals] but for a specific people, the House of Israel.
Lets look as Jer 31:31-34
31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Now, where is the Promise to all individuals in the world in this promise ? Its not. but to a distinct people. the House of Judah and Israel which are the same, for Judah was Israels Son.
32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
These Gospel Promises of the new Covenant to the seed of Abraham [ spiritual] are the many I Will's and they shall's of God toward this certain people..
Lets look at them:
vs 33..He will put His Laws in their hearts and inward parts [ new birth promised see Titus 3 :5-6
He will be their God. This in itself makes their lives secure from the womb..
And they shall be my people. that is by faith they will be manifested as the children of God. Gal 3:26
26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
This shows that faith in Christ is the result of Gods promise of the New Covenant [ and they shall be my people]
vs 34..Spiritually knowledge is ensured and not depended on man, for all of this certain people will know God..and there will not be any respect of persons, but from the least of this people to the greatest will be blessed with this Spiritual understanding.1 Jn 5:20
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us [Spiritual Israel] an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Another promise is the forgiveness of sins, and the knowledge of it..
And their sins and iniquities will He remember no more..
And why is that ? because of the blood of the New Covenant Matt 26:28
28For this is my blood of the new testament [covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
The Many would be the House of Israel, Jer 31 :31
31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Now here is the Mystery revealed, that the House of Israel was not only comprised of ethnic Jews who were of the election of grace, but also gentiles also who were of the election of grace, who were not of the ethnic nation of Israel..
But nevertheless they were partakers of the same promises of the Gospel as the elect ethnic Jew's were..
Eph 3:6
6That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Notice that gentiles should be of the same body What same body ? Why that body of People to whom the New Covenant promises were Made which was Jer 31:31
31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
The word house here is the Hebrew word:
tyb and has the meaning of " Those belonging to the same household..
So you see, it was a secret not yet revealed clearly, that the gentiles were of the same household, the same body of the House of Israel to whom the New covenant promises had been made .in Jer 31: 31
So even though the Gospel promises never varied in that they were for a distinct people [ House of Israel] yet it was brought to light that , that distinct people was comprised of peoples all over the World .the gentiles..
The Gospel of New Covenant salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ was never for all the World of men, unless we are talking about scope, but not as individuals, because all individuals don't belong to the House of Israel. else God would have never made this distinct people separated from all other peoples in the world.
This is a Gospel Truth that Paul Preached..
Eph 3:6
6That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
The Gospel Promises has always only been for a certain people, and not for all the world as in individuals, but it was now being manifested that it was for all the world geographically..in other words, the certain people for whom the gospel promises are for, did not just reside in the land of Israel, but that the seed of Abraham's was world wide and included the gentiles..
Thats why it was written by Paul about Abraham that God preached the Gospel to Him by saying:
Gal 3:8
8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen[gentiles] through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
hence Abraham's expectation was not merely a plot of land as His Canaan of promise, but the world..
Rom 4 13
13For the promise, that he[ Abraham] should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law ,[National Israel] but through the righteousness of faith.
This is pretty plain, that the Gospel promises to Abraham were not to His seed through the Law, meaning that earthly people that was delivered out of Egypt and given the Law Covenant at Sinai..
But through the righteousness of Faith, that perceived righteousness by the obedience of the One coming, Jesus Christ ..
Now back in my text it reads that the gentiles were partakers of the same promises..
Which promises of the Gospel were grounded in the New Covenant to who ? To all the world ? No.
The New Covenant promises of the Gospel were never for all the world [ as individuals] but for a specific people, the House of Israel.
Lets look as Jer 31:31-34
31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Now, where is the Promise to all individuals in the world in this promise ? Its not. but to a distinct people. the House of Judah and Israel which are the same, for Judah was Israels Son.
32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
These Gospel Promises of the new Covenant to the seed of Abraham [ spiritual] are the many I Will's and they shall's of God toward this certain people..
Lets look at them:
vs 33..He will put His Laws in their hearts and inward parts [ new birth promised see Titus 3 :5-6
He will be their God. This in itself makes their lives secure from the womb..
And they shall be my people. that is by faith they will be manifested as the children of God. Gal 3:26
26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
This shows that faith in Christ is the result of Gods promise of the New Covenant [ and they shall be my people]
vs 34..Spiritually knowledge is ensured and not depended on man, for all of this certain people will know God..and there will not be any respect of persons, but from the least of this people to the greatest will be blessed with this Spiritual understanding.1 Jn 5:20
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us [Spiritual Israel] an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Another promise is the forgiveness of sins, and the knowledge of it..
And their sins and iniquities will He remember no more..
And why is that ? because of the blood of the New Covenant Matt 26:28
28For this is my blood of the new testament [covenant], which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
The Many would be the House of Israel, Jer 31 :31
31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Now here is the Mystery revealed, that the House of Israel was not only comprised of ethnic Jews who were of the election of grace, but also gentiles also who were of the election of grace, who were not of the ethnic nation of Israel..
But nevertheless they were partakers of the same promises of the Gospel as the elect ethnic Jew's were..
Eph 3:6
6That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Notice that gentiles should be of the same body What same body ? Why that body of People to whom the New Covenant promises were Made which was Jer 31:31
31Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
The word house here is the Hebrew word:
tyb and has the meaning of " Those belonging to the same household..
So you see, it was a secret not yet revealed clearly, that the gentiles were of the same household, the same body of the House of Israel to whom the New covenant promises had been made .in Jer 31: 31
So even though the Gospel promises never varied in that they were for a distinct people [ House of Israel] yet it was brought to light that , that distinct people was comprised of peoples all over the World .the gentiles..
The Gospel of New Covenant salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ was never for all the World of men, unless we are talking about scope, but not as individuals, because all individuals don't belong to the House of Israel. else God would have never made this distinct people separated from all other peoples in the world.
This is a Gospel Truth that Paul Preached..
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beloved57
Well-known member
The Gospel of Gods Grace !
The Gospel of Gods Grace !
Paul said that he preached the Gospel of the grace of God per Acts 20:24
24But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
Yes, The elect are saved by Grace Eph 2:5,8
5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Note that in both scriptures, Paul writes that the elect are saved by Grace and not by Faith
Many have corrupted salvation by Grace, by taking the reference to Faith in vs 8 and making it a condition of grace and salvation but that is grave and serious error.
Eph 2: 5 and 2: 8 are the same truth, except vs 8 adds expansion to the definition or meaning of being saved by Grace.
That is, that Faith is inclusive in the Truth of being saved by Grace. The Gift of God is salvation by grace through faith..
The Faith and the Grace are the gift of God ,Together they package salvation by grace through Faith..
The Faith is included in that it is the receptive valve and the realization of the salvation we have in and through Jesus Christ.
Rom 5 17
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
So Grace furnishes the Faith to believe, as it is written, that the elect believe by Grace Acts 18:27
27And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:
So in essence, being saved by grace per Eph 2 5 is inclusive of being saved by Grace through Faith Eph 2 8. It [ salvation by grace through faith] is the Gift of God.
The Gospel of Gods Grace !
Paul said that he preached the Gospel of the grace of God per Acts 20:24
24But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
Yes, The elect are saved by Grace Eph 2:5,8
5Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Note that in both scriptures, Paul writes that the elect are saved by Grace and not by Faith
Many have corrupted salvation by Grace, by taking the reference to Faith in vs 8 and making it a condition of grace and salvation but that is grave and serious error.
Eph 2: 5 and 2: 8 are the same truth, except vs 8 adds expansion to the definition or meaning of being saved by Grace.
That is, that Faith is inclusive in the Truth of being saved by Grace. The Gift of God is salvation by grace through faith..
The Faith and the Grace are the gift of God ,Together they package salvation by grace through Faith..
The Faith is included in that it is the receptive valve and the realization of the salvation we have in and through Jesus Christ.
Rom 5 17
For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
So Grace furnishes the Faith to believe, as it is written, that the elect believe by Grace Acts 18:27
27And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:
So in essence, being saved by grace per Eph 2 5 is inclusive of being saved by Grace through Faith Eph 2 8. It [ salvation by grace through faith] is the Gift of God.
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beloved57
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Preaching Christ Crucified !
Preaching Christ Crucified !
1 Cor 1:23
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
2:2
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Preaching Christ crucified means, That He was put to death for the sins of His church, the elect of God. He having had their sins imputed to Him, as their surety and covenant head..
He being made a sin offering for the Israel of God 2 Cor 5:21
21For he hath made him to be sin for us [the church], who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
For Jesus Christ did not come to save all people from their sins, but His People Matt 1:21
21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Not all Jewish people, but His people or sheep from amongst the Jews and Gentiles, the wide scope of the seed of Abraham, for it is written, in thee shall all nations be blessed..
You cant preach christ and him crucified without naming specifically for whom He was crucified, and it was not for all mankind to include the devils seed or offspring Gen 3 15!
Preaching Christ Crucified !
1 Cor 1:23
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
2:2
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Preaching Christ crucified means, That He was put to death for the sins of His church, the elect of God. He having had their sins imputed to Him, as their surety and covenant head..
He being made a sin offering for the Israel of God 2 Cor 5:21
21For he hath made him to be sin for us [the church], who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
For Jesus Christ did not come to save all people from their sins, but His People Matt 1:21
21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Not all Jewish people, but His people or sheep from amongst the Jews and Gentiles, the wide scope of the seed of Abraham, for it is written, in thee shall all nations be blessed..
You cant preach christ and him crucified without naming specifically for whom He was crucified, and it was not for all mankind to include the devils seed or offspring Gen 3 15!
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beloved57
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Jesus Preached the Gospel of Election !
Jesus Preached the Gospel of Election !
All that the Father giveth Me shall come unto me..
Jn 6:37
37All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Amen, Jesus Himself taught election and special redemption in these very words..
It is very evident from this portion of the Word of God, that the Love Gift of the Father is not all humanity. This is corroborated in Jn 17:6
We find throughout the whole chapter of Jn 17 who these special people people are who the Father gave unto the Son. They are those given to Jesus Christ out of the world per Jn 17:6
I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
In another place Jesus is saying I will declare thy name to my brethren per Heb 2:12
Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
Those that have been singled out of the world, not because of their own freewill, repenting and believing, or doing and working, or anything that man does or think. They have been set apart by the Sovereign, electing, and discriminating eternal purpose of God, from everlasting.
They have been under Gods everlasting purpose of mercy from everlasting to everlasting PS 103:17
17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;
Notice, this mercy is not for all mankind, but for those who Fear Him.
And fearing Him is not a condition of this mercy, but as a result of it. for none feared God from everlasting of themselves.
So this speaks to eternal election in their Head, the Lord Jesus Christ whom is from everlasting.
Jesus Preached the Gospel of Election !
All that the Father giveth Me shall come unto me..
Jn 6:37
37All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Amen, Jesus Himself taught election and special redemption in these very words..
It is very evident from this portion of the Word of God, that the Love Gift of the Father is not all humanity. This is corroborated in Jn 17:6
We find throughout the whole chapter of Jn 17 who these special people people are who the Father gave unto the Son. They are those given to Jesus Christ out of the world per Jn 17:6
I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
In another place Jesus is saying I will declare thy name to my brethren per Heb 2:12
Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
Those that have been singled out of the world, not because of their own freewill, repenting and believing, or doing and working, or anything that man does or think. They have been set apart by the Sovereign, electing, and discriminating eternal purpose of God, from everlasting.
They have been under Gods everlasting purpose of mercy from everlasting to everlasting PS 103:17
17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;
Notice, this mercy is not for all mankind, but for those who Fear Him.
And fearing Him is not a condition of this mercy, but as a result of it. for none feared God from everlasting of themselves.
So this speaks to eternal election in their Head, the Lord Jesus Christ whom is from everlasting.
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beloved57
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God says that their is a special people He calls, which is a remnant according to the election of grace, predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son [ their elder brother], and its them so predestined that He calls, Justifies, and glorifies, so who can lay anything to the charge of Gods elect ?
beloved57
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Preaching The Whole Counsel of God
Preaching The Whole Counsel of God
Acts 20:27
27For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
27For I never shrank or kept back or fell short from declaring to you the whole purpose and plan and counsel of God
27For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.
Paul wrote this in the context of Preaching the gospel of Gods Grace vs
24But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
25And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.
Notice the words in vs 27 Hesitate, shrank, and shunned.
These words are used because Paul was not scared to preach the difficult doctrines of the Gospel which He knew Men by nature would cavil, reject and criticize and contradict..
Gospel Truths like election and reprobation and Gods Sovereignty therein, i.e
Rom 9:11
11Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls—she was told, "The older will serve the younger."[d] 13Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."[e]
14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses,
"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
16 It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."
18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
19One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?"
20But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?'
"21Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
22What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction?
23What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory—
The fact of the matter is this, One cannot preach the Gospel if they are not preaching all the counsel of God, even those portions that the natural man cannot believe or accept.
Thats God not only, before the world began, selected a multitude that no man can number to inherit Glory, but that God also selected a multitude of people, perhaps even larger, to inherit shame and eternal destruction.
That God has not only appointed some to obtain salvation but some to wrath..
1 Thess 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
You see that ? Paul says, God has not appointed us to wrath, meaning in contrast to others He has appointed to wrath which are the vessels of wrath.
Preaching The Whole Counsel of God
Acts 20:27
27For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
27For I never shrank or kept back or fell short from declaring to you the whole purpose and plan and counsel of God
27For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God.
Paul wrote this in the context of Preaching the gospel of Gods Grace vs
24But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
25And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.
Notice the words in vs 27 Hesitate, shrank, and shunned.
These words are used because Paul was not scared to preach the difficult doctrines of the Gospel which He knew Men by nature would cavil, reject and criticize and contradict..
Gospel Truths like election and reprobation and Gods Sovereignty therein, i.e
Rom 9:11
11Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls—she was told, "The older will serve the younger."[d] 13Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."[e]
14What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15For he says to Moses,
"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
16 It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
17For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."
18Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
19One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?"
20But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?'
"21Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
22What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction?
23What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory—
The fact of the matter is this, One cannot preach the Gospel if they are not preaching all the counsel of God, even those portions that the natural man cannot believe or accept.
Thats God not only, before the world began, selected a multitude that no man can number to inherit Glory, but that God also selected a multitude of people, perhaps even larger, to inherit shame and eternal destruction.
That God has not only appointed some to obtain salvation but some to wrath..
1 Thess 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
You see that ? Paul says, God has not appointed us to wrath, meaning in contrast to others He has appointed to wrath which are the vessels of wrath.
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what does preaching the gospel consist of?
that you are of the elect and others are not?
that you are of the elect and others are not?
beloved57
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Another Facet of Gospel Preaching !
Another Facet of Gospel Preaching !
Matt 28:19-20
19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Many use this passage to derive a formula for water baptism, but thats not my intention.
But I do know that teaching is prominent in this passage, and the Triunity of the Godhead is set forth, and for that it has soteriological significance.
The disciples were sent to teach, to instruct in doctrine.
One of the Main proponents in salvation doctrine, is that salvation is a joint contrivance of all the sacred persons in the Godhead, according to ancient arrangement of the everlasting covenant.
The Father planned it [ salvation] in this covenant, The Son, The Word Made flesh, engaged to execute it, and the Holy Ghost engaged to render it effectual to all the heirs of promise..Heb 1:14
14Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
Knowledge of this everlasting covenant is imperative for God Honoring Gospel preaching.
And God shews this covenant to all the heirs of salvation
Ps 25:14
14The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
2 sam 23:5
Although my house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.
Peter opens up one of His Epistles with the Triunity in Salvation 1 Pet 1:1-2
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Another Facet of Gospel Preaching !
Matt 28:19-20
19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Many use this passage to derive a formula for water baptism, but thats not my intention.
But I do know that teaching is prominent in this passage, and the Triunity of the Godhead is set forth, and for that it has soteriological significance.
The disciples were sent to teach, to instruct in doctrine.
One of the Main proponents in salvation doctrine, is that salvation is a joint contrivance of all the sacred persons in the Godhead, according to ancient arrangement of the everlasting covenant.
The Father planned it [ salvation] in this covenant, The Son, The Word Made flesh, engaged to execute it, and the Holy Ghost engaged to render it effectual to all the heirs of promise..Heb 1:14
14Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
Knowledge of this everlasting covenant is imperative for God Honoring Gospel preaching.
And God shews this covenant to all the heirs of salvation
Ps 25:14
14The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
2 sam 23:5
Although my house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.
Peter opens up one of His Epistles with the Triunity in Salvation 1 Pet 1:1-2
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
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beloved57
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Eternal Union a Gospel Truth cont
The Eternal Union of Jesus Christ and His People is Made manifest in time. Jesus Christ as the Living Head of His members was Prophet, King, and Priest unto God in their behalf.We also, by His redeeming death and blood, are in time made unto God priest and kings per Rev 1:5-6
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
We the elect, did not make ourselves kings and priests unto God, not our freewill, or our choice did this or determined this, but this is a spiritual blessing bestowed upon us according to having been chosen in Christ before the foundation. Eph 1:3-4
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Again Jesus Christ made us [ the elect] unto Kings and Priests:
Rev 5:9-10
9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Now the word made both here and Rev 1: 6 is the greek word:
poieō which means:
with the names of things made, to produce, construct, form, fashion
Amen Jesus Christ through His blood work authors, ,produces, forms us, the elect into what we are, Kings and Priest as He himself is..so its only befitting that the members be images of the Head.
The word made also means:
to be the authors of, the cause
Hence, through His blood, He is the Author, the cause of our Faith.
Certainly a priest of God has Faith in God.
This is because of an Eternal Union the elect had in Jesus Christ before the world began, this is a Gospel Truth.
The Eternal Union of Jesus Christ and His People is Made manifest in time. Jesus Christ as the Living Head of His members was Prophet, King, and Priest unto God in their behalf.We also, by His redeeming death and blood, are in time made unto God priest and kings per Rev 1:5-6
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
We the elect, did not make ourselves kings and priests unto God, not our freewill, or our choice did this or determined this, but this is a spiritual blessing bestowed upon us according to having been chosen in Christ before the foundation. Eph 1:3-4
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Again Jesus Christ made us [ the elect] unto Kings and Priests:
Rev 5:9-10
9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Now the word made both here and Rev 1: 6 is the greek word:
poieō which means:
with the names of things made, to produce, construct, form, fashion
Amen Jesus Christ through His blood work authors, ,produces, forms us, the elect into what we are, Kings and Priest as He himself is..so its only befitting that the members be images of the Head.
The word made also means:
to be the authors of, the cause
Hence, through His blood, He is the Author, the cause of our Faith.
Certainly a priest of God has Faith in God.
This is because of an Eternal Union the elect had in Jesus Christ before the world began, this is a Gospel Truth.
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beloved57
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The Gospel promise to abraham !
The Gospel promise to abraham !
oft times when one is asked to define the gospel of Jesus Christ, they get as a response 1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Which of course is a scriptural component of the True Gospel, though not understood by most who reference it.
But here also is another important component of the Gospel message, and that's the same gospel as preached by God to Abraham:
Gal 3:8
8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
The promise God gave Abraham " In you shall all the nations be blessed" was the gospel of Jesus Christ:
Gen 12:3
3And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Acts 3:25
25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Notice here in the above scripture, peter calls it a covenant and in Gal 3:8 its [the promise] is called the gospel..
Now this gospel was preached to Abraham, and given to him to believe, not only before the actual time accomplishments of Jesus Christ, but also before the giving of the law on mt sinai for we read in Romans 4:11-17
11And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15 Because the law worketh wrath
: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
17(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Now, what God promised Abraham corresponds with what God accomplished through Jesus Christ, which is the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. Acts 13:32-33
32And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers [ Abraham],
33God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children [children of promise, both jew and gentile], in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
Hence, the New testament dispensation is a continuum of Gods faithful dealing with the promise He made to Abraham in the OT Gen 12:3
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
This promise has nothing to do with the law of moses
From the above perspective. the gentiles also are the seed of Abraham, and the seed of Abraham is Israel, not Israel of the flesh, but Israel of promise..
The Gospel promise to abraham !
oft times when one is asked to define the gospel of Jesus Christ, they get as a response 1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Which of course is a scriptural component of the True Gospel, though not understood by most who reference it.
But here also is another important component of the Gospel message, and that's the same gospel as preached by God to Abraham:
Gal 3:8
8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
The promise God gave Abraham " In you shall all the nations be blessed" was the gospel of Jesus Christ:
Gen 12:3
3And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Acts 3:25
25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Notice here in the above scripture, peter calls it a covenant and in Gal 3:8 its [the promise] is called the gospel..
Now this gospel was preached to Abraham, and given to him to believe, not only before the actual time accomplishments of Jesus Christ, but also before the giving of the law on mt sinai for we read in Romans 4:11-17
11And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15 Because the law worketh wrath
: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
17(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Now, what God promised Abraham corresponds with what God accomplished through Jesus Christ, which is the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. Acts 13:32-33
32And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers [ Abraham],
33God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children [children of promise, both jew and gentile], in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
Hence, the New testament dispensation is a continuum of Gods faithful dealing with the promise He made to Abraham in the OT Gen 12:3
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
This promise has nothing to do with the law of moses
From the above perspective. the gentiles also are the seed of Abraham, and the seed of Abraham is Israel, not Israel of the flesh, but Israel of promise..
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slain from the foundation !
slain from the foundation !
Rev 13:8
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world
Look at these words here inspired by the Holy Ghost through His servant John " The lamb slain from the foundation of the world"
This scripture tells us that Jesus Christ blood was shed decretorily from the foundation, and actually when Christ died upon the cross in time. The question is, is there any difference in Gods perspective, which is eternal, as to when to declare them not guilty for whom Christ was slain for their sins and in their stead.
That Christ was the lamb slain from before the foundation shows that God in precreation, eternity, did impute the sins of the elect world unto Christ Judicially. Therefore decretorily received by imputation the sins of the elect [ the many brethren] before all creation, and this of course makes certain of the elects existence in time, in order to commit the sins that had been laid upon Jesus Christ. The Father gave all the election of grace unto the Son before the foundation of the world [ see Jn 17:2 & Heb 2:13]
and so this inevitably meant their existence in time to display His saving grace, this made certain the lives of the elect in time, certain in our natural state.
Paul speaks to this in Acts 17:26
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation..
The very fact that Christ came out of heaven to die for sins, is proof positive, that in a real decretorily sense, our sins [ the elect] had been imputed unto Him already, again He was slain from the foundation of the world.
This is a Gospel Truth in the lines of 2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
slain from the foundation !
Rev 13:8
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world
Look at these words here inspired by the Holy Ghost through His servant John " The lamb slain from the foundation of the world"
This scripture tells us that Jesus Christ blood was shed decretorily from the foundation, and actually when Christ died upon the cross in time. The question is, is there any difference in Gods perspective, which is eternal, as to when to declare them not guilty for whom Christ was slain for their sins and in their stead.
That Christ was the lamb slain from before the foundation shows that God in precreation, eternity, did impute the sins of the elect world unto Christ Judicially. Therefore decretorily received by imputation the sins of the elect [ the many brethren] before all creation, and this of course makes certain of the elects existence in time, in order to commit the sins that had been laid upon Jesus Christ. The Father gave all the election of grace unto the Son before the foundation of the world [ see Jn 17:2 & Heb 2:13]
and so this inevitably meant their existence in time to display His saving grace, this made certain the lives of the elect in time, certain in our natural state.
Paul speaks to this in Acts 17:26
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation..
The very fact that Christ came out of heaven to die for sins, is proof positive, that in a real decretorily sense, our sins [ the elect] had been imputed unto Him already, again He was slain from the foundation of the world.
This is a Gospel Truth in the lines of 2 Tim 1:9
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
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