Paul's gospel was a mystery!

[Crucible]

But you feel safe and secure and special and elect, unlike billions of other sinners -

Well, there's a Heaven and there's a Hell. God's elect go to one and others go to the other.

It's hilarious how you all just. don't. get it.

 

[patrick jane]

Well, there's a Heaven and there's a Hell. God's elect go to one and others go to the other.

It's hilarious how you all just. don't. get it.

But according to you, the ones going to hell never had a chance for salvation, which mocks the Blood Of Christ - good.luck.with.that.

 

[jamie]

Peter, or Petra, means 'Rock'. Jesus named him the rock

There is no reason to believe Jesus was speaking Greek.

 

[Crucible]

There is no reason to believe Jesus was speaking Greek.

That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day, and I've heard some pretty dumb things :chuckle:

Jesus named Simon the Rock. Deal with it.

 

[jamie]

Well, there's a Heaven and there's a Hell. God's elect go to one and others go to the other.

Revelation 20:13-14 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire.​

 

[jamie]

Jesus named Simon the Rock. Deal with it.

Jesus could speak Hebrew and the word "peter" is Hebrew.

 

[Crucible]

But according to you, the ones going to hell never had a chance for salvation, which mocks the Blood Of Christ - good.luck.with.that.

They never had a chance anymore than those Muslims out in Egypt. They have no more a chance of becoming Christian than you do becoming a Muslim.

You're the one who mocks God- you believe that God makes the mistake of blessing someone who will eventually become wicked, pretty much taking away His own providence and foreknowledge to give your worthless will free reign.

 

[God's Truth]

Peter, or Petra, means 'Rock'. Jesus named him the rock- what Jesus stated was a title of office, you moron,

The truth that Peter spoke---what he spoke was the TRUTH, and it is the reason for him being called little rock. Jesus is the truth. Jesus is the Rock.

and you only say otherwise because it puts a fatal blow to your theology.

How do you get that?

The Reformers didn't even deny Peter's office, because it doesn't magically give the Catholic Church authority except by their own claim.

What is the point then?

 

[Crucible]

The truth that Peter spoke was the reason rock. Jesus is the truth. Jesus is the Rock.

According to what?

He changed Simon's name to ROCK and he announced right in front of everybody the title to Peter.
:doh:

Your claim is straight up out of thin air, created from evangelist morons. It has never been contended in the entire history of Christianity that Peter was not the rock.

 

[God's Truth]

According to what?

He changed Simon's name to ROCK and he announced right in front of everybody the title to Peter.
:doh:

Your claim is straight up out of thin air, created from evangelist morons. It has never been contended in the entire history of Christianity that Peter was not the rock.

I speak things most people have never known.

Tell me this, where are the GATES of Hell?

 

[God's Truth]

But according to you, the ones going to hell never had a chance for salvation, which mocks the Blood Of Christ - good.luck.with.that.

...but you think those who do what Jesus says will go to Hell---because they obeyed. haaaaa