Not was she a Gentile.
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Was the daughter healed? Yes she was, and she was healed because of the mother's faith, the disciples wanted to send her away but Jesus still listened to her and healed her daughter because of her faith, regardless of where she was from or who she was. It's not what we are, or where we are from, it's what faith we have and whether we truly believe and follow Jesus from our hearts or not and live by the will of God. Jesus is the way, not Paul. Paul is a minister of the gospel that Jesus preached, both preached the same gospel, the gospel of God.
We are saved through Christ Jesus, through faith my the grace of God, Jew and gentile.
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We'll she wasn't a Jew, she asked Jesus why he was speaking to her, him being a Jew and her being a Samaritan.
You're simply wrong on a few issues here.
Another provocative thread...and you wonder why you get attacked all the time hahaha
better have the whole armor on...
Maybe concentrate on the the first part of the statement.
“I was sent”
Who is He? Son of Israel sure but calls Himself Son of Man...some call Him Son of God
Jews think the Messiah was to save them from man/Rome...He showed He was to save them from sin...do only jews sin? The Law was given even to foreigner within thy gates...not of israel...
Even in the church of the wilderness there was only ONE LAW for native and non native...
For my house is a house of prayer for all nations was the very spiritual purpose of Israel which they failed rather desiring to make it a monopolization of political power and dominance
He was lifted up that ANY who believe...
And two roman centurions had faith not seen in all of israel...faith is righteousness...
Son of israel sure from the tribe of Judah even...but the promise is the descendants of Abraham were to be a blessing to ALL NATIONS through that covenant the one to MANKIND was kept the SEED of Eve...come to take away the sins of the world says John not just of jews...
Now who sent this Saviour of the world...
For god so loved the world...not just jews...that whosoever...not just of israel...shall not perish...not first death for all die as a result of sin not foreign occupation by Roman flesh and blood...but shall have everlasting life...not die the second spiritual forever death...
He was sent by One that made mankind and wishes all be saved...not just jews...His father’s mansions aren’t just for jews...
The SABBATH was made for Man...not just jews...
Despite rumors otherwise...Yah is not a Zionist
Just like there was in the church of the wilderness only one law for native and non native...as it is one promise...from one Seed
They are just MAD...
No he is right I almost didn’t click this thread...and not because of who started it
A Roman centurionhad greater faith than any Israelite...faith is righteousness or?
His parable of on the road to jericho implies others are included
I only state simple facts.
too many Christians make simple gospel so confused and complicated.
Well, your "Facts" aren't exactly, "Factual," however, at least you reserve the right to be annoying. I'll give you credit for that.
Does this mean Jesus was not also sent for the gentiles?
Simeon's prayer in Luke 2 seems to indicate otherwise: Jesus was God's salvation ...
"... Prepared in the sight of all nations, a light for revelation to the Gentiles, and the glory of your people Israel."
And the fact that he was sent to the list sheep of Israel did not keep him from ministering to: the Syrophoenician woman, the Roman centurion, the woman at the well in Samaria, the people in the crowds who came from the Decapolis. Nor did it keep Phillip from ministering to the Ethiopian eunuch before the conversion of Paul.
Eph 4:2 ff.
Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
One body ... One Lord. That says it all.
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“For Yah so loved the the jews and the lost houses of Israel that He sent His only begotten Son to the jews and the lost houses of Israel...(as apparently the found houses of Israel didn’t need Him) so that only those believing from either da jews or the lost houses of Israel will not perish but have everlasting life...”
There fixed it...one less verse He quoted about the promise being for whosoever in the world He so loved...
Could you refer me to the New Testament verse in which Christians are instructed to be nasty?
And getting back on topic- do parallel statements appear in all of the gospel accounts?
good question.
Jesus teaches us to live peacefully yet so called His followers don't even listen to Him by saying His teachings are just for the Jews..
I said
Paul went to the Gentiles Outside the church, and Peter went to the Jews Inside The Church
Gal 2:7-10
7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter
8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles),
9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.
10 They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do.
1 Cor 9:19-22
19 For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more;
20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law;
21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law;
22 to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
Matt 19:3-8
3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?"
4 And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female,'
5 "and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?
6 "So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate."
7 They said to Him, "Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?"
8 He said to them, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.
Gal 1:15-19
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace,
16 to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood,
17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him fifteen days.
19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord's brother.
Acts 15:23-36
23 They wrote this letter by them: The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings.
24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, 'You must be circumcised and keep the law'-- to whom we gave no such commandment--
25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:
29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.
30 So when they were sent off, they came to Antioch; and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the letter.
31 When they had read it, they rejoiced over its encouragement.
32 Now Judas and Silas, themselves being prophets also, exhorted and strengthened the brethren with many words.
33 And after they had stayed there for a time, they were sent back with greetings from the brethren to the apostles.
34 However, it seemed good to Silas to remain there.
35 Paul and Barnabas also remained in Antioch, teaching and preaching the word of the Lord, with many others also.
36 Then after some days Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us now go back and visit our brethren in every city where we have preached the word of the Lord, and see how they are doing."
1 Cor 3:1-15
1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ.
2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able;
3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?
4 For when one says, "I am of Paul," and another, "I am of Apollos," are you not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one?
6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase.
8 Now he who plants and he who waters are one, and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor.
9 For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, you are God's building.
10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it.
11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,
13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is.
14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
Titus 2:1-13
1 But as for you, speak the things which are proper for sound doctrine:
2 that the older men be sober, reverent, temperate, sound in faith, in love, in patience;
3 the older women likewise, that they be reverent in behavior, not slanderers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things--
4 that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,
5 to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed.
6 Likewise exhort the young men to be sober-minded,
7 in all things showing yourself to be a pattern of good works; in doctrine showing integrity, reverence, incorruptibility,
8 sound speech that cannot be condemned, that one who is an opponent may be ashamed, having nothing evil to say of you.
9 Exhort bondservants to be obedient to their own masters, to be well pleasing in all things, not answering back,
10 not pilfering, but showing all good fidelity, that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things.
11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,
13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
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XXX As you can see Paul was sent to the Gentiles and Peter was sent to the Jews. And anyone that is born again knows why, you dont teach everyone the same way. Just like you dont teach women the way you would men, or servants the way you would elders. Or even children the way you would grown ups. Paul taught the Gentiles to be baptized and believe outside the church. Peter taught the Jews to be baptized inside the established church. They were bothers in Christ. They both taught the same message. Jesus supported both of them.
Acts 13:46-47
46 Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, "It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles.
47 "For so the Lord has commanded us: 'I have set you as a light to the Gentiles, that you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.' "
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Col 2:5-7
5 For though I am absent in the flesh, yet I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the steadfastness of your faith in Christ.
6 As you have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him,
7 rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith, as you have been taught, abounding in it with thanksgiving.
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1 Cor 14:6-11
6 But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching?
7 Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played?
8 For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare himself for battle?
9 So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air.
10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance.
11 Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me.
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Acts 28:28
28 "Therefore let it be known to you that the salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will hear it!"
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well...we do have an example that if there is improper use of worship we are to drive it out...
what is actually nasty is being invited to a wonderful banquet party and being properly welcomed (even if we were not on the original vip guest list) and enjoying ourselves immensely and totally grateful that there were openings for us to attend and enjoy but then having a nasty guest starting nasty rumors that we were actually not invited and should leave...that is nasty
I just fixed the invitation to reflect that nasty hateful rumor...
You wouldn't know a 'good question' from a hole in your infamous hat.
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