PneumaPsucheSoma
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The Father.
ECT Our triune God
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The Father.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Fo' sho'. The New Testament (monetary) standard is cheerful giving from the heart.
Some folks hearts are evidently a little bigger than others.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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No, I use lexicography and exegesis from the inspired text of scripture. Chrysostom asked using familial terms and I responded.
And I do. They're just not multiple individuated hypostases.
Theologians can, have, and do. I can, have, and do.
I do.
God expressed and revealed Himself by the Son. He didn't stutter. We can, should, and must understand.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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The only NT tithe is all of oneself. That will also include heart-based giving.
can you say Jesus is God?
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Could you point me to the flesh of the Father and the flesh of the Holy Spirit?
And three human beings are NOT a Trinity. Three beings are not one being. A family is not one being.
You are a Tritheist, misrepresenting your own professed doctrine. It's not unusual.
Others please take note.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Jesus is God.
I could even use all caps, bolded, underscored, and large font point size.:chuckle:
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Have you read any of this thread?
That's your own opinion. It still doesn't totally give a decisive and
clear picture of what exactly the Trinity is? When Christ spoke to
His Father in the garden of Gethsemane, He was speaking as a Son
to His Father yet, the Bible says they are one? No further explanation
is given in the Bible of what that means exactly. So, it's left to human
speculation and endless personal examples. They are three yet, they
are one. I'm 64 years old and over a lifetime I've heard, I don't know,
how many examples of what the Trinity means? I've come to the
conclusion that we must just accept what God says: "They are three
yet, they are one. Faith in what God says is essential to our understanding
of God's truths.
thank you
I tried to read a number of your posts
but
could not understand them
and
that is why I had to ask you some specific questions
do you wonder how many can understand your posts?
PneumaPsucheSoma
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I'm neither concerned with, nor agree with, your conclusion. After 64 years, you should know in whom you've believed. And no, it's not my own opinion. It's lexicography and exegesis, along with extensive knowledge of history. YOUR statements are all opinion.
This is a thread for the purpose of discussing the theological minutiae of the Trinity. There's two millennia of historical precedent for doing so, and there's a great amount of information to know exponentially more than you admit to knowing.
The least someone could do would be to have understood the theology of their alleged professed faith. Just because you've chosen not to, it only means you're a poor steward of your spiritual life and have no real revelation of who God is.
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PneumaPsucheSoma
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First of all... Are you suggesting a husband and wife cannot be a family without children? And are you suggesting a larger family than three is still a trinity?
But none of that matters. Trinity is not any threeness.
God is not a unit of multiples. A family of BEINGS is not a singular being.
You're espousing Tritheism of multiple beings. Multiple divine beings is multiple gods.
What member of the "family" of multiple beings is the Holy Spirit? Mom and/or wife? Daughter?
You are not a Trinitarian. God is not a family. Please go learn the immeasurable problems with your anathema conceptualization.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Not surprising, since you don't understand your own professed Trinity doctrine.
No, I don't wonder. I know how few have any idea of their own historical professed doctrine, much less any challenge to it.
The problem of others not understanding my posts is from their ignorance, poor stewardship, bad teaching, and lack of revelation. You shouldn't blame others for your lack of knowing Theology Proper.
You're not even a Trinitarian, which is why I address this topic.
They are one person
They are two alone
They are three together
They are for each other
Stephen Stills
maybe you need to stop thinking is terms of being
a family is not a being
it is a relationship
each person has a mother and a father
that makes them part of a trinity, a family, a relationship
each person represents a unique trinity
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Maybe you need to abandon your anathema concept and learn your actual historical professed doctrine.
Your frail erroneous analogy is NOT the Trinity doctrine. It's three gods as one unit. That's Tritheism.
You are promoting pagan and non-Christian ideas in place of the Trinity.
I don't need to refer to myself as a trinitarian
I believe Jesus is God because our redemption depends on it
it is as simple as that
explaining the trinity is just an academic exercise