Derf
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Which was lacking the holy Spirit for how many years before the Watchtower was founded?
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All of them lacked it. The true religion died out when the followers were murdered. 2Thess 2:3=Catholicism rose up and screwed it all up. The protestants tried to fix things but couldn't. They only had Catholicism error filled translating to go by. They all served the non existent trinity so Jesus was NEVER with any of them.
And if you're wrong?
Derf
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Then you're saying that the gates of hell have prevailed against the true church for over 1000 years, right?
Derf
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And, because your translation of the Bible was written after those >1000 years, and because the texts used at that time for generating your English translation were copies made during those >1000 years, your sect must have used corrupted Greek and Hebrew texts, in your view.
Your own position refutes itself.
I'm not. The holy spirit sent by God isn't a mass of confusion. Granted imperfect men make errors, but then correct the errors. Jesus is with 1 religion-1Cor 1:10= a true mark=Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division.
No it was sleeping until here in these last days--Some men knew and exposed the false teachings brought in through the years.
The holy spirit guided the NWT. Its all one needs. In the early years of the JW,s many error teachings still existed out of error filled trinity translations. It does not happen overnight finding Gods truth and undoing 1750 years of false teachings, especially when translating was erred and in use. Its why the protestants fixed little. They did try though.
Derf
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Why could it not happen more quickly, if the Holy Spirit were guiding the translators? Are you saying that they changed the text back to what it originally was, but not right away? In other words, they made some mistakes in their translation at first? When did they finally get it all right?
Bladerunner
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no they as a cult have not gotten it right. unfortunately.
All who draw close to Jehovah, he draws close to them.
Matt 24:45=at the proper time.= When God willed truth to be known. He required the group of men who diligently searched through many old writings, different translations, etc to uncover many truths. And they did, at the proper time. Plus when new light came, the false religions condemned them for their corrections. Thus the fake JW,s fell away. It was a great way to get the fakes out.
Jehovah is about to show the world who belongs to him. In Ezekial it says about 20 x in prophecy concerning these last days--They will have to know i am Jehovah.
Gods view of a cult=A house divided( hundreds of trinity religions= a mass of confusion) will not stand.--You believed these-2Cor 11:12-15 who claim the JW,s are the cult. Gods view is the view that counts in the end.
Derf
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But how could the Holy Spirit allow a version to be published that only corrected some errors? That means the Holy Spirit was OK with the remaining errors. And, how do you know that the corrections have all been made? Might there be more corrections needed? Maybe some of the things that were corrected weren't corrected all the way. You're left with only uncertainty about your doctrine.
The fact remains at the proper time means-over time truth would be revealed, But the other fact remains all of Gods truth is in the bible, thus before it was revealed all those matters were taught on by every religion using Gods bible. Thus the ones who had holy spirit and truth was revealed at the proper time then made corrections. All of creation has watched the corrections over the last 150 years or so. Condemned by the ones who never make correction. New light will come still, especially at the very end of how God will save his through the tribulation and Armageddon.
Derf
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All of God's truth is in an untrustworthy bible? Then we would have to have a priest of some sort explain it to us, to tell us which parts are fact and which fiction. That's what those reformers were trying to reform from, so the common man could read the Bible in his own language without the priest. Your position reverses the good parts of the reformation, where they said we can trust the bible, since God has preserved it, even if we can't trust the priests.
You're not answering the question.
What if you're wrong, @Keiw1?
Are you even willing to consider the possibility? Let alone what it entails...
There's an even bigger problem, specifically regarding this.
God cannot be viewed as a "deity of deception," otherwise He would, rationally speaking, be no different than a "demon of deception."
This video is worth a listen, yes, even being over 3 hours long.
Bladerunner
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He already has a book out there that tells us what He wants us to know....there are other versions of it, many in different languages. As far as the Lighthouse new book. they have removed many words that He spoke. He simply let them...yet, before they did it, they knew he had already told them the effect of changing His WORD in Rev 22:18-19.