ECT No one was "looking forward to the cross"

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It is the plain meaning of the text. Peter REBUKED Christ; he had made up his mind that there was not going to be a death. No wonder the next paragraph by Jesus is the relatively well-known 'unless a person denies themselves and takes up the (Christ's) cross, he cannot be my disciple.

STP is nothing but a write-off-er. He has nothing pro-active to say; never originates a post that I know of. Always on scramble.
 
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Interplanner said:
It is the plain meaning of the text. Peter REBUKED Christ; he had made up his mind that there was not going to be a death. No wonder the next paragraph by Jesus is the relatively well-known 'unless a person denies themselves and takes up the (Christ's) cross, he cannot be my disciple.

STP is nothing but a write-off-er. He has nothing pro-active to say; never originates a post that I know of. Always on scramble.
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I expose you daily as a fraud.
 
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musterion said:
He didn't mean that literally. It was a spiritual truth. You taught us that.

You are not allowed to dictate which parts of the Bible are literally meant and which are not.
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That's why I put (Christ's) in there; I believe that is what he meant. He did not mean for each follower to be crucified although some were. He meant it in the same was as Gal 2:20. Persecution by Judaism would 'crucify' believers.
 
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musterion said:
Your opinion of what you think the Bible says. You choose to take this part as literal.

Seeing the point yet?
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How is your cross coming along? Oak? Birch?

Obviously in Gal 2:20, the Gospel 'crucifies' Paul to the world of Judaism and that 'world' to him. It is being used as a figure of speech.
 
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How is your cross coming along? Oak? Birch?

Obviously in Gal 2:20, the Gospel 'crucifies' Paul to the world of Judaism and that 'world' to him. It is being used as a figure of speech.
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Now you're flipping again.

No one here believes anything you post. You are a weasel.

Leave.
 
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musterion said:
Now you're flipping again.

No one here believes anything you post. You are a weasel.

Leave.
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Why is Lk 9 literal then? Will you die on a cross? Did all the apostles/disciples die on an actual cross?

You shouldn't leave, you should get all the piffle out of your head until there is daylight.
 
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