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There was a change to that old law, see Hebrews 7:12.
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There was a change to that old law, see Hebrews 7:12.
Romans 14 NO WHERE is about Sabbaths...but which days to fast on...the entire chapter is about food and diet...and fasting...some jews chose Tuesday Thursday some chose mon wed...
Not one mention of Sabbath...the chapter begins with “accept the one whose faith is weak without quarreling over disputeable things”...Sabbath was never a disputable matter...
Oh good grief...including Friday nights is babylon enough...now its three days long?
Please show your work...thanks...
SDA’s did not start out as trinitariens is why the rest of christendom thought them a cult...
They gradually embraced it to get along...
They also don’t observe festival days
Or use proper names...racist anti semites...LOL...never gets old...
Unless the Father draws him...
But yes faith compels works...
However you dont get to pick and choose what you obey...
It is so sad that they went down to the world's level. They were pacifists too.
Pastor Bachelor do not embrace OSAS, but he gives high honor to John Calvin. I don't get it.
Yes cuz when you transfer the law from one administration to another you obviously have to transfer the law...
Or like when you change owners of property you have to transfer that property yes?
Here read...resting today too tired to type it all out for you
https://hoshanarabbah.org/blog/2013/08/22/hebrews-712/
Read and come to healing...Sabbath remains for good works...see? nothing’s changed...
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You don't speak the truth.
There was a change to that old Law.
Stop adding and subtracting to God's Word. It is more dangerous of a thing to do than you think it is.
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You don't understand that scripture. That scripture is explaining why some believed in Jesus when he was on earth and why other Jews didn't. It is because those Jews who didn't understand were cut off and hardened until Jesus was crucified.
You have to obey TO GET SAVED and you have to obey to stay saved.
You have to believe and obey everything Jesus says. He will save you when he accepts you.
Please describe what changed from when He taught and lived the new covenant way and died signing it and sealing it with His death...you do accept that no changes are allowed to a sealed document last will and testament after the testator is dead yes?
So that change you speak of specifically to the Sabbath has to happen while Yahushua was still alive...before He was killed to sign and seal THAT NEW CHANGE into the new covenant...
So please show TOL where that change you claim took place...
Until you do let it be known that Luke was NOT lying when he wrote it was jewish FALSE WITNESS that claims as you did...namely that Yahushua changed the customs and laws...again if that were true and Stephen and Paul preached that then that accusation would be TRUE WITNESS...you do know how it works in court yes?
NO WITNESS was brought forth during the trial of Paul with evidence such as an epistle he wrote for instance or an eye witness retelling of his teaching it...that proved these jewish accusations...THEREFORE LUKE WAS CORRECT IN THAT THE CLAIM YOU AND THE JEWS MAKE THAT HE CHANGED THE LAW IS FALSE
Sorry my cap button got stuck...but please read it as slowly as I typed it to make sure you get it...got it?
You dont even obey everything Jesus says...
9/10ths maybe but then you steal worship from Him 8/10ths cuz you bare false witness of Him 7/10ths you take His name for no good 6/10ths you dishonor the heirarchy 5/10ths falsify Him and making a counterfeit 4/10ths 3/10ths killing the Spirit’s vibe 2/10ths and I guess just adulterating on His love 1/10th
Well good on you ...you unraveled the whole thing...
Proud of yourself?
My apologies if I didn't remember exactly what you wrote.
Remember ye the law of Moses My servant,
which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel,
with the statutes and judgments.
Malachi 4:4
And we have to know His law, to obey it.
Turn you at My reproof:
behold, I will pour out My spirit unto you,
I will make known My words unto you.
Proverbs 1:23
Which commandment was changed? and to what?
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass,
one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:18
Far as I can tell, heaven and earth still exist.
Thank God.
LOL. So I won't babble on, I'll just show you the scripture.
We will go three days' journey into the wilderness,
and sacrifice to the LORD our God, as He shall command us.
Exodus 8:27
And ye shall do no work in that same day:
for it is a day of atonement,
to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
Leviticus 23:28
Again, can you tell us specifically,
which commandment changed, and what it was changed to?
Since I am a debtor to keep the whole law, I need to know,
if what you say is true.
Bearing what you said in mind, of course.
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,
that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Deuteronomy 4:2
What thing soever I command you, observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
Deuteronomy 12:32
Why? Why did they need to use three days to celebrate?
“And Moses said, “It is not right to do so, for we would be sacrificing athe abomination of the Egyptians to the Lord our God. If we sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes, then will they not stone us?”
You do realize taking a group as large as they were would take one day in...do the sacrifice and one day back yes?
I mean they did have to go far enough as to not provoke the Egyptians for killing their god...
Yes because it was not a weekly Sabbath but came on the 10 day of the seventh month...as a yearly “your sabbath” vs weekly “My Sabbath”...and it began its afflicting the evening of the 9th...
Still a 24 hour two day event...
Thank you, Clefty.
Come, and let us return unto the LORD:
for He hath torn, and He will heal us;
He hath smitten, and He will bind us up.
After two days will He revive us:
in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight.
Hosea 6:1-2
Concerning the feasts of the LORD,
which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations,
even these are My feasts.
Six days shall work be done:
but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation;
ye shall do no work therein:
it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
These are the feasts of the LORD,
even holy convocations,
which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Leviticus 23:2-4
A day to the Lord could be as a thousand years to us,
but I suggest we not leave it that long before we proclaim our next sabbath.
If you are tired of the world, or of life, and if you feel overcome,
then I suggest you need a rest, and some refreshment from the Lord.
In the New Testament, making a sabbath is called praying.
So pretty much all Christians make sabbaths / sacrifice to the Lord / offer themself up, one way or another,
unfortunately not many are bothering to check in the law, to see how God said to do it. And their ears are inclined to their fellows.
Ye shall do no servile work therein:
but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Leviticus 23:25
Come, and let us return unto the LORD:
for He hath torn, and He will heal us;
He hath smitten, and He will bind us up.
After two days will He revive us:
in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight.
Hosea 6:1-2
Concerning the feasts of the LORD,
which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations,
even these are My feasts.
Six days shall work be done:
but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation;
ye shall do no work therein:
it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
These are the feasts of the LORD,
even holy convocations,
which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Leviticus 23:2-4
A day to the Lord could be as a thousand years to us,
but I suggest we not leave it that long before we proclaim our next sabbath.
If you are tired of the world, or of life, and if you feel overcome,
then I suggest you need a rest, and some refreshment from the Lord.
In the New Testament, making a sabbath is called praying.
So pretty much all Christians make sabbaths / sacrifice to the Lord / offer themself up, one way or another,
unfortunately not many are bothering to check in the law, to see how God said to do it. And their ears are inclined to their fellows.
Ye shall do no servile work therein:
but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Leviticus 23:25
Thank Yah...all this was from Him by His design...not our own ok?
don’t see the Sabbath connection...maybe His arrest trial death burial and resurrection...maybe...ok no that was three days three nights like with Jonah...but is your sabbath 3 in 1 days or 2 in one?
yes familiar with this...nothing there about 2 days
right especially since it is repeated that they occur after six days...
ok yup thanks do that...
so the disciples were walking through the field while praying...or all that healing was done while prayning? Pharisees all bent out of shape over His disturbing their prayers...not sure I understand this “making a asabbth is called praying” pray without ceasing yes...some here claim everyday sabbaths...but well dont see it scripture yet...
ok well I haven’t been shown your ways either...even by you...
Yes this one is the day of trumpets 1st day of 7th month...and 10 days to prepare before day of atONEment
So ok then...this your 2 day sabbath thingy...I need more evidence from scripture...but thanks...
halleluYah may He lead...
Thank you, Clefty.
I enjoy your posts.
Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day,
every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.
For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance,
which the LORD your God gives you.
Deuteronomy 12:8-9
And they said, The God of the Hebrews has met with us:
let us go, we pray thee, three days' journey into the desert,
and sacrifice unto the LORD our God;
lest He fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword.
Exodus 5:3
Pass through the host, and command the people, saying, Prepare you victuals;
for within three days ye shall pass over this Jordan, to go in to possess the land,
which the LORD your God gives you to possess it.
Joshua 1:11
And she said unto them,
Get you to the mountain, lest the pursuers meet you;
and hide yourselves there three days, until the pursuers be returned:
and afterward may ye go your way.
Joshua 2:16
When you offered yourself, your life, to Jesus,
did you come to Him like a bull? or did you come to Him like a suckling lamb?
He shall purify himself with it on the third day, and on the seventh day he shall be clean:
but if he purify not himself the third day, then the seventh day he shall not be clean.
Numbers 19:12
And on the third day
eleven bullocks, two rams, fourteen lambs of the first year without blemish;
Numbers 29:20
Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto Me in the year.
Exodus 23:14
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day
according to the scriptures:
1 Corinthians 15:4
Amen Jonathan.
And David said unto Jonathan,
Behold, to morrow is the new moon,
and I should not fail to sit with the King at meat:
but let me go, that I may hide myself in the field unto the third day at even.
1 Samuel 20:5
I enjoy your posts.
All what?
Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day,
every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.
For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance,
which the LORD your God gives you.
Deuteronomy 12:8-9
And they said, The God of the Hebrews has met with us:
let us go, we pray thee, three days' journey into the desert,
and sacrifice unto the LORD our God;
lest He fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword.
Exodus 5:3
Pass through the host, and command the people, saying, Prepare you victuals;
for within three days ye shall pass over this Jordan, to go in to possess the land,
which the LORD your God gives you to possess it.
Joshua 1:11
And she said unto them,
Get you to the mountain, lest the pursuers meet you;
and hide yourselves there three days, until the pursuers be returned:
and afterward may ye go your way.
Joshua 2:16
When you offered yourself, your life, to Jesus,
did you come to Him like a bull? or did you come to Him like a suckling lamb?
He shall purify himself with it on the third day, and on the seventh day he shall be clean:
but if he purify not himself the third day, then the seventh day he shall not be clean.
Numbers 19:12
And on the third day
eleven bullocks, two rams, fourteen lambs of the first year without blemish;
Numbers 29:20
Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto Me in the year.
Exodus 23:14
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day
according to the scriptures:
1 Corinthians 15:4
Amen Jonathan.
And David said unto Jonathan,
Behold, to morrow is the new moon,
and I should not fail to sit with the King at meat:
but let me go, that I may hide myself in the field unto the third day at even.
1 Samuel 20:5
P.S. in regard to the months.
The months counted my duration into the feasts of weeks.
I didn't realize it at the time.
I didn't note when I started doing that commandment, and I wasn't counting the time, but looking back, I believe everything in Lev 23 occurred precisely to the day as the Lord said there.
The months counted my duration into the feasts of weeks.
I didn't realize it at the time.
I didn't note when I started doing that commandment, and I wasn't counting the time, but looking back, I believe everything in Lev 23 occurred precisely to the day as the Lord said there.
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Could you explain how the seventh day of the seven day week can last at least 3 days?