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Jerry Shugart · Jan 10, 2017

tetelestai said:
As stated earlier, the Steelers would have to lose this week, and the Cowboys would have to win the Super Bowl, for the Cowboys to even think about being compared to the Steelers.

If the Cowboys win the Super Bowl this year and the Steelers lose this week then the Boys will go ahead of the Steelers. They will be tied for number of Super Bowl wins and the Boys will have one more appearance in the Super Bowl than the Steelers.

Besides that, the Steelers cannot even be compared with the Boys when it comes to their regular season winning percentage. The Boys lead all of the teams in the NFL in that category while there are twelve teams ahead of the Steelers!

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Jerry Shugart said:
If the Cowboys win the Super Bowl this year and the Steelers lose this week then the Boys will go ahead of the Steelers. They will be tied for number of Super Bowl wins and the Boys will have one more appearance in the Super Bowl than the Steelers.

The Steelers would still have the edge, because they have beat the Cowboys in 2 of 3 Super Bowls.

The only way the Cowboys would gain the edge is if the Cowboys beat the Steelers in this years Super Bowl.

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Watching Alabama lose last night gave me hope.

If Alabama can lose, the Patriots can lose.

Jerry Shugart · Jan 10, 2017

tetelestai said:
The Cowboys were a bad team.

They were 4-12 last year.

Just wait because Big Ben is getting older and as a result he will be more prone to injury. Before last year the Boys made the playoffs and having a healthy quarterback we won a playoff game and were on the verge of advancing to a chance to play in the Super Bowl. But then the Boys we were robbed of a touchdown when it was ruled that Dez Bryant did not make that catch. However, the replay shows that after catching the ball he made a football move and that is what defines a catch!

Jerry Shugart · Jan 10, 2017

tetelestai said:
Seeing Alabama lose last night gave me hope.

If Alabama can lose, the Patriots can lose.

You better worry about beating KC first. They are no Miami!

Jerry Shugart · Jan 10, 2017

tetelestai said:
The Steelers would still have the edge, because they have beat the Cowboys in 2 of 3 Super Bowls.

Wrong!

The two teams would be tied for Super Bowl wins. Then the tie-breaker would be Super Bowl appearances and so Dallas would win the tie breaker.

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Jerry Shugart said:
You better worry about beating KC first. They are no Miami!

Yes, I know. I'm very worried.

Andy Reid is 19-2 coming off a bye week.

The Chiefs have had two weeks of rest, and two weeks to practice and prepare for the Steelers.

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Jerry Shugart said:
Wrong!

The two teams would be tied for Super Bowl wins. Then the tie-breaker would be Super Bowl appearances and so Dallas would win the tie breaker.

No, the first tie breaker in every sport is head-to-head.

In head-to-head, the Steelers have beat the Cowboys in 2 of 3 Super Bowls.

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Jerry Shugart said:
But then the Boys we were robbed of a touchdown when it was ruled that Dez Bryant did not make that catch. However, the replay shows that after catching the ball he made a football move and that is what defines a catch!

Yes, I remember laughing uncontrollably at that call.

john w · Jan 10, 2017

tetelestai said:
The Cowboys were a bad team.

They were 4-12 last year.

They have been a bad team for 20 years.

You missed it...Pay attention...You argued:

tetelestai said:
No rookie QB has ever led a team to a Super Bowl.

1. Most rookies are on bad teams, Craigie. That is your brilliant insight?

Connect the dots, Craigie-cause/effect. I know that is quite deep....

2. The Cowboys are a good team, this year, Craigie, and would have been, still, even with Romo.

As I told you-take your seat.

Jerry Shugart · Jan 10, 2017

tetelestai said:
No, the first tie breaker in every sport is head-to-head.

Yes, to determine who will advance in the playoffs.

But to determine who has had more success in Super Bowl history then the tie-breaker is the number of appearances in that game. Sometime you need to leave your fantasy world and face reality.

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Jerry Shugart said:
we won a playoff game

That one playoff game win was big, big excitement for you Cowboy fans wasn't it?

Probably because it was only the second playoff win in 20 years for the Cowboys.

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Jerry Shugart said:
But to determine who has had more success in Super Bowl history then the tie-breaker is the number of appearances in that game.

That's ridiculous.

That would mean the 0-4 Bills had better Super Bowl success than the 2-0 Ravens

Jerry Shugart · Jan 10, 2017

tetelestai said:
That one playoff game win was big, big excitement for you Cowboy fans wasn't it?

No, the excitement was the fact that the Boys had an excellent team with the excellence to win the Super Bowl. Then it all came crashing down due to the incompentence of the officals was very disappointing.

The Steeler's luck will not last forever and they are due for something similiar to what happened to the Boys.

But I would not wish that thing on any team or any fan!

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

john w said:
You missed it...Pay attention...You argued:

1. Most rookies are on bad teams, Craigie. That is your brilliant insight?

Connect the dots, Craigie-cause/effect. I know that is quite deep....

2. The Cowboys are a good team, this year, Craigie, and would have been, still, even with Romo.

As I told you-take your seat.

There has been 15 rookie QB's to take their teams to the playoffs (including Prescott)

Just in 2012, three rookie QB's took their teams to the playoffs (Luck,Wilson, Griffin).

Of the 14 rookie QB's to make it to the playoffs before Prescott, none have taken their team to the Super Bowl, and only two (Roethlisberger & Flacco) made it as far as the Conference Championship Game.

Jerry Shugart · Jan 10, 2017

tetelestai said:
That's ridiculous.

That would mean the 0-4 Bills had better Super Bowl success than the 2-0 Ravens

Cragie, please pull your head out from its present location and actually use your brain for a change.

The first thing to decide a team's Super Bowl record is number of WINS in the Super Bowl!

Then if two teams are tied in that category then the next thing to consider is the number of appearances in the Super Bowl.

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Jerry Shugart said:
Then if two teams are tied in that category then the next thing to consider is the number of appearances in the Super Bowl.

Nope.

The next thing would be head-to-head.

The Steelers beat the Cowboys in 2 of 3 Super Bowls.

As I said earlier Jerry.....you need to stop worrying about the Steelers, and worry about the Packers.

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Correction:

Mark Sanchez took the Jets to the AFC Championship Game as a rookie QB in 2009.

So, it's Roethlisberger, Flacco, and Sanchez as the only rookie QB's to take their team to a Conference Championship Game (and they all lost).

john w · Jan 10, 2017

tetelestai said:
There has been 15 rookie QB's to take their teams to the playoffs (including Prescott)

You can't be this stupid-you are changing your argument, Craigie, moving the proverbial goalposts....You "argued:"

tetelestai said:
No rookie QB has ever led a team to a Super Bowl.

tetelestai said:
Just in 2012, three rookie QB's took their teams to the playoffs (Luck,Wilson, Griffin).

tetelestai said:
No rookie QB has ever led a team to a Super Bowl.

tetelestai said:
Of the 14 rookie QB's to make it to the playoffs before Prescott, none have taken their team to the Super Bowl, and only two (Roethlisberger & Flacco) made it as far as the Conference Championship Game.

tetelestai said:
No rookie QB has ever led a team to a Super Bowl.

tetelestai · Jan 10, 2017

Jerry Shugart said:
Then if two teams are tied in that category then the next thing to consider is the number of appearances in the Super Bowl.

More nonsense.

Both the Redskins and Broncos have won 3 Super Bowls.

The Redskins beat the Broncos in their only head-to-head Super Bowl meeting

The Redskins are 3-2 in Super Bowls, the Broncos are 3-5.

Using your logic, it would mean the 3-5 Broncos have been more successful than the 3-2 Redskins, even with the Redskins beating the Broncos.

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