NFL 2014
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You were expecting more from an organization (including the fans), whose most honored and celebrated player murdered two people?
And fired Paul Brown.
Suspended indefinitely sounds a bit like he can apply for reinstatement down the road. I wonder what he will do for income....
As a Pats fan, trust me, I despise Baltimore almost as much as you do.:chuckle:
Newsome should resign, Harbaugh should be fired, and Gooddel should step down. Everyone involved in this disgusting mess couldn't have handled it worse.
They all look really bad. Assuming it's true that Goodell didn't see the elevator video, why not??? It's hard to believe that he couldn't have seen it if he wanted to. And I saw a report that they didn't even ask. It seems like they didn't want to know the full story. :doh:
I also heard that he's doing an interview on CBS news tonight. I have no idea what satisfying answer he could give but I'll be interested to hear.
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Did you guys see that video on youtube where they overdubbed Jim Ross's voice over the commentary for that play where Antonio Brown kicked the punter in the face? It's a hilarious. Brown flying through the air and landing on the punter w/ Jim Ross yelling "Oh No! Oh No! Sweet Chin Music! He hit Sweet Chin Music!"
His statement is correct. The NFL is not authority in any matter or any way shape or form. They do not go to a hotel/casino and say give it up. Nor do they go to the police and tell them what to do. They have no say in the matter, none.
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TMZ can get the tape but the NFL can't? Sorry, I don't buy it. If the league wanted to get their hands on it they would have.
And let's remember: Months ago, when this story broke, several reporters described the "other tape" they'd seen exactly, and in detail, as the one that was recently leaked. So somebody had a copy, or copies of this footage inside the elevator, a while ago...and these same reporters did say folks within the league were privy to the contents.
The NFL didn't want to look too closely at this and was hoping this situation would just go away. It's blown up in Goodell's face, and he should step down. His handling of the situation was a farce from start to finish.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/09/roger-goodell-ray-rice-elevator-video-cbs-interview/
When you don't go to the source, don't be surprised when you come up empty handed.
The Steelers play the Ravens tomorrow night in Baltimore.
I'm hoping all this Ray Rice stuff has distracted the Ravens enough that the Steelers win easily.
I'm hoping all this Ray Rice stuff has distracted the Ravens enough that the Steelers win easily.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...efore-releasing-ray-rice-video-210159555.html
This isn't good. It's like the league just covered its eyes, plugged its ears, and wished really, really hard that this would all magically disappear.
This isn't good. It's like the league just covered its eyes, plugged its ears, and wished really, really hard that this would all magically disappear.
Why do you think they need to get ahold of some tape?
It is not for sale, except to bidders.
And many many times they are lying or exaggerating. Eye witness doesn't mean much any more. Just look at that jackass in Ferguson who we now know is lying through his teeth when he described what the violent giant did and didn't do.
You would not say this if the shoe is on the other foot. If you were an employer and your employee was arrested for something, it is unlikely you act this way saying he should be fired right now.
It is not the NFL's place to do anything with Rice. And at the same time, I would also fire my employee who acted this way.
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I wonder how many posts I can come up with (TMZ discredit) saying witnesses are often unreliable.
They didn't, but probably not for the reasons you intended. The original footage was awful enough to justify a stiff punishment, not the slap on the wrist initially imposed.
True, but in this instance the reporters who described the footage months ago got it right. We're not talking about witnesses at the casino (obviously only two people were in the elevator) but reporters who saw the footage itself. They said the footage (at the time unseen by the public) showed Rice cold-cocking her, and her head striking the handrail inside the elevator. This was common knowledge, discussed on ESPN and the rest, before Monday's news. The new footage's contents were not revelations, in other words.
This is a unique situation: a public figure exposed as a wife beater and surrounded by enablers who knew better, and still chose to make the wrong decision. It's apparent throughout this entire process that the NFL didn't take the situation seriously and consistently sided with Rice. They got it wrong, top to bottom, start to finish.
Tolerating criminal behavior is the wrong decision. And I'm sure this constitutes a violation of their personal conduct guidelines.
Here's what I don't understand
Roger Goodell said all first time offenders of domestic abuse will be suspended for 6 game
So, why didn't Rice get a 6 game suspension instead of being suspended indefinetely?
Roger Goodell said all first time offenders of domestic abuse will be suspended for 6 game
So, why didn't Rice get a 6 game suspension instead of being suspended indefinetely?
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/9/10/6130963/ray-rice-video-baltimore-ravens
The plot continues to thicken...
The plot continues to thicken...
And now there is an AP report that someone in the NFL offices was sent the video and there is a short recording of someone acknowledging it.
Worse and worse....
I'm still skeptical that they couldn't have seen it but let's just go with that for the sake of discussion. I'd still love to have Goodell say (maybe he has) what he thought went on in the elevator. Has Rice ever denied hitting her? What exactly changed by seeing the new video? The only hypothetical I can think up is that Rice and Palmer lied to them and said that she started to attack him and he hit back. That would make it sound a bit better so maybe the punishment was less. Then the new video would have truly been new evidence and a new, harsher punishment could be understandable. But I doubt Rice would have lied because he most likely knew that there was video from inside and Goodell or the Ravens could end up seeing it. So it just doesn't make sense. Even if Goodell hadn't seen the video his actions don't make sense.
Less than an hour for Steelers vs. Ravens.
So far, the CBS pre-game show has talked about Ray Rice and nothing else.
So far, the CBS pre-game show has talked about Ray Rice and nothing else.
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