New Polls Show Minority Support For Trump Surging

Arthur Brain

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I'm not talking about outlawing abortion but instead I wonder why any Christian would support the party who does everything in their power to insure that abortions are available, free of charge on demand, to every woman in the USA. Why do these kind of Christians approve of murdering the unborn?

Why would they support the party that is intent on making it possible for the murder of as many of the unborn as possible?

Are you a Christian? Can you tell me why you support the Democrat party which is hell bent on making the murder of the unborn a common thing?

I could care less as to what you or anybody else may need to identify themselves as because labels mean squat. You're just fuelling a stupid argument here. Donald Trump and the Republican party don't care about abortion so just drop it.
 

Jerry Shugart

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Eh. some people think that Trump is fighting a secret war against an elite cabal of Satan worshipping paedophiles, can ya believe that

You progressives think that the public is stupid and they will believe the lie that Trump is responsible for the looting and riots taking place in the cities and states which have been controlled by the Democrats for decades. The public KNOWS that it is the Dems who are allowing the rioting and looting to continue and that is why Biden's polling numbers are falling like a rock.

Whenever the feds went into Portland to make sure the Federal Courthouse was not burned to the ground the Dems complained and said that Trump was making it worse! They would rather see the Courthouse burned to the ground so that their supporters could continue to riot and loot.

You should be ashamed of your lie that Trump is responsible and if you really think he is responsible then I hope they treat you well in your padded cell!
 

eider

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........................ Donald Trump and the Republican party don't care about abortion.................
Sure.
And he has no intention to redact laws which have given more freedom and protection to LGBT folks, either.

If 70% of all American voters wanted tougher controls on, say, freshwater anglers I reckon Mr Trump would be fairly hot about that. He's after votes, I think, rather than any kind of crusades.
 

Jerry Shugart

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Donald Trump and the Republican party don't care about abortion so just drop it.

"Since his election to the executive office, President Trump and his administration have taken consistent action to promote the pro-life movement and protect the sanctity of life. In 2020 President Trump became the first sitting President to address the annual March for Life in person and was also the first sitting President to address the March for Life live through satellite in 2018. These actions alone have earned him the label of “Making History in Condemning Abortion” from abortion providers and advocates of such as Planned Parenthood. Further, he “made history” by being the first President in United States history to “single out” Planned Parenthood for defunding on the first page of his 2018 budget. President Trump has asked Congress to pass legislation to end late term abortions, reinstated and expanded policies prohibiting international aid from funding oversees abortions, and has issued a ruling reforming Title X family planning funds preventing them from funding entities that provide abortions. Since being elected and sworn in as President of the United States, President Trump’s administration has consistently supported policies that promote and protect life over abortion in the United States as well as internationally."

https://eclj.org/abortion/un/donald-trumps-pro-life-achievements-2016-2020

Arthur, why do you support the party who does everything in their power to promote abortions and to promote abortions on demand as well as free, tax funded abortions in their assault on the unborn? Do you not think that the unborn has a right to life?

Are you a Christian?
 

Arthur Brain

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You progressives think that the public is stupid and they will believe the lie that Trump is responsible for the looting and riots taking place in the cities and states which have been controlled by the Democrats for decades. The public KNOWS that it is the Dems who are allowing the rioting and looting to continue and that is why Biden's polling numbers are falling like a rock.

Whenever the feds went into Portland to make sure the Federal Courthouse was not burned to the ground the Dems complained and said that Trump was making it worse! They would rather see the Courthouse burned to the ground so that their supporters could continue to riot and loot.

You should be ashamed of your lie that Trump is responsible and if you really think he is responsible then I hope they treat you well in your padded cell!

What the heck does this have to do with those who support the whacked out stuff that Q-Anon spouts? If you want to talk about stupid then address that or the irresponsible lot who reckon Covid-19 is a hoax?

You don't get to lecture anybody about shame when you ignore the lunacy that abounds among Trump supporters.
 

Arthur Brain

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"Since his election to the executive office, President Trump and his administration have taken consistent action to promote the pro-life movement and protect the sanctity of life. In 2020 President Trump became the first sitting President to address the annual March for Life in person and was also the first sitting President to address the March for Life live through satellite in 2018. These actions alone have earned him the label of “Making History in Condemning Abortion” from abortion providers and advocates of such as Planned Parenthood. Further, he “made history” by being the first President in United States history to “single out” Planned Parenthood for defunding on the first page of his 2018 budget. President Trump has asked Congress to pass legislation to end late term abortions, reinstated and expanded policies prohibiting international aid from funding oversees abortions, and has issued a ruling reforming Title X family planning funds preventing them from funding entities that provide abortions. Since being elected and sworn in as President of the United States, President Trump’s administration has consistently supported policies that promote and protect life over abortion in the United States as well as internationally."

https://eclj.org/abortion/un/donald-trumps-pro-life-achievements-2016-2020

Arthur, why do you support the party who does everything in their power to promote abortions and to promote abortions on demand as well as free, tax funded abortions in their assault on the unborn? Do you not think that the unborn has a right to life?

Are you a Christian?

Well, that's not an unbiased link at all is it? Trump hasn't done any such thing so your post is moot.
 

Arthur Brain

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Sure.
And he has no intention to redact laws which have given more freedom and protection to LGBT folks, either.

If 70% of all American voters wanted tougher controls on, say, freshwater anglers I reckon Mr Trump would be fairly hot about that. He's after votes, I think, rather than any kind of crusades.

Of course he is. Anyone who thinks that he isn't and actually cares about anything other than self serving gain is deluded. He's far from the only politician on that score but his narcissism is through the roof.
 

The Barbarian

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Trump's huge concern now, is his ongoing decline in battleground states in the upper Midwest.
He's down further this week in Minnesota,Wisconsin,Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
Biden also increased his lead in Arizona.
And Biden is holding his lead in Florida and Ohio, although his lead shrunk in North Carolina.

Trump's most likely path to victory would require that he turn things around in Arizona, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania. His campaign handlers seem to have realized this, as they have cancelled ads in most of the upper Midwest. Oddly, they've also cancelled ads in Pennsylvania, which figures in pretty much all of his possible paths to victory.
 

The Barbarian

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You progressives think that the public is stupid and they will believe the lie that Trump is responsible for the looting and riots taking place...

Well,let's see what Trump's FBI director says...

FBI Director Christopher Wray said Tuesday that the agency has made about 100 domestic terrorism-related arrests since October, and the majority were tied to white supremacy.

”I will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we’ve investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence, but it does include other things as well,” Wray said at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, referring to cases in fiscal 2019, which began Oct. 1.

The FBI is “aggressively” investigating domestic terrorism and hate crimes, Wray said, noting that the bureau is focused on investigating the violence, not the ideology motivating the attacks.

Wray distinguished between what he termed homegrown violent extremism, wording he said the FBI uses to refer to people in United States who are inspired by global jihadists, and domestic extremism, which Wray described as broader to include racially motivated extremists, anarchists and others.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...ority-of-domestic-terrorism-arrests-this-year
 

Jerry Shugart

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If you want to talk about stupid then address that or the irresponsible lot who reckon Covid-19 is a hoax?

Are you so dumb that you actually believed that Trump called Covid-19 a hoax? Even CNN says that accusation of Biden is not true:


Washington, DC (CNN) During his campaign's highest week of ad spending, Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden tweeted out an ad Tuesday attacking President Donald Trump for comments he has made over the pandemic. Specifically, the ad suggests that Trump has called the virus a hoax.

The 25-second ad begins with a clip of Trump at a campaign rally on February 28 in South Carolina. The ad plays a quick clip of Trump saying "the coronavirus" then it cuts to him saying "and this is their new hoax." Text on the ad reads, "Trump in public: 'Hoax.'"

Facts First: This is a misleading attempt to suggest that Trump specifically called the coronavirus a hoax. While Trump's comments were a bit confusing, Biden's ad leaves out important context and dishonestly edits the two soundbites together."

Taken in totality, Trump's comments at the February 28 rally indicate that he is deriding Democrats for attacking his performance on the coronavirus. A full 56 seconds pass between the two clips the campaign ad edited together.

In this section of his rally speech, Trump began by saying that "the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," ridiculing Democrats for attacking his administration's performance addressing the virus. The President then compared this attack to the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, and calling his impeachment a "hoax."

Trump then said, "They'd been doing it since you got in. It's all turning. They lost. It's all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax."

Here is what Trump said in full:

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus -- you know that right? Coronavirus. They're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, "How's President Trump doing?" They go, "Oh, not good, not good." They have no clue. They don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa. They can't even count. No, they can't. They can't count their votes.

One of my people came up to me and said, "Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn't work out too well. They couldn't do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They'd been doing it since you got in." It's all turning. They lost. It's all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax."The next day Trump was asked about this comment and tried to clarify what he said, claiming he was "referring to the action that [the Democrats] take to try and pin this on somebody, because we've done such a good job. The hoax is on them."

That said, Trump's clarification has not stopped some of his supporters from believing the pandemic is, in fact, a hoax. One Trump supporter attending a campaign rally in Michigan on September 10 was asked by CNN's Jim Acosta why he was not wearing a mask. "Because there's no Covid," he said. "It's a fake pandemic created to destroy the United States of America."

CNN's Tara Subramaniam contributed to this article.

http://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_4688c554fa3b52e38bfd863b933f54db

Arthur, not only are you so dense that you believe the wildest lies put out by Biden but you report those lies as fact on this forum. The Dems depend on people like you to believe their lies and you didn't let them down.
 

Arthur Brain

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Are you so dumb that you actually believed that Trump called Covid-19 a hoax? Even CNN says that accusation of Biden is not true:


Washington, DC (CNN) During his campaign's highest week of ad spending, Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden tweeted out an ad Tuesday attacking President Donald Trump for comments he has made over the pandemic. Specifically, the ad suggests that Trump has called the virus a hoax.

The 25-second ad begins with a clip of Trump at a campaign rally on February 28 in South Carolina. The ad plays a quick clip of Trump saying "the coronavirus" then it cuts to him saying "and this is their new hoax." Text on the ad reads, "Trump in public: 'Hoax.'"

Facts First: This is a misleading attempt to suggest that Trump specifically called the coronavirus a hoax. While Trump's comments were a bit confusing, Biden's ad leaves out important context and dishonestly edits the two soundbites together."

Taken in totality, Trump's comments at the February 28 rally indicate that he is deriding Democrats for attacking his performance on the coronavirus. A full 56 seconds pass between the two clips the campaign ad edited together.

In this section of his rally speech, Trump began by saying that "the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," ridiculing Democrats for attacking his administration's performance addressing the virus. The President then compared this attack to the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, and calling his impeachment a "hoax."

Trump then said, "They'd been doing it since you got in. It's all turning. They lost. It's all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax."

Here is what Trump said in full:

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus -- you know that right? Coronavirus. They're politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, "How's President Trump doing?" They go, "Oh, not good, not good." They have no clue. They don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa. They can't even count. No, they can't. They can't count their votes.

One of my people came up to me and said, "Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn't work out too well. They couldn't do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They'd been doing it since you got in." It's all turning. They lost. It's all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax."The next day Trump was asked about this comment and tried to clarify what he said, claiming he was "referring to the action that [the Democrats] take to try and pin this on somebody, because we've done such a good job. The hoax is on them."

That said, Trump's clarification has not stopped some of his supporters from believing the pandemic is, in fact, a hoax. One Trump supporter attending a campaign rally in Michigan on September 10 was asked by CNN's Jim Acosta why he was not wearing a mask. "Because there's no Covid," he said. "It's a fake pandemic created to destroy the United States of America."

CNN's Tara Subramaniam contributed to this article.

http://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_468...fd863b933f54db

Arthur, not only are you so dense that you believe the wildest lies put out by Biden but you report those lies as fact on this forum. The Dems depend on people like you to believe their lies and you didn't let them down.

I didn't say that Trump called Covid-19 a hoax so get your facts straight. He deliberately downplayed it and that's an admission of his on record. If you think that there isn't a load of loony tunes conspiracy hoaxers out there, then you're the one being dense here.
 

Jerry Shugart

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I didn't say that Trump called Covid-19 a hoax so get your facts straight.

Here is what you said:

If you want to talk about stupid then address that or the irresponsible lot who reckon Covid-19 is a hoax?

Who were you referring to "who reckon Covid-19 a hoax"?

For your information, no one called Covid-19 a hoax. That was Joe Biden's lie. And you foolishly believed that lie! Then you spread that lie!
 

Arthur Brain

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Here is what you said:



Who were you referring to "who reckon Covid-19 a hoax"?

For your information, no one called Covid-19 a hoax. That was Joe Biden's lie. And you foolishly believed that lie! Then you spread that lie!

The only lies being spread are by these wingnuts. If you aren't aware that there's a bunch of bat crazy conspiracy lunacy being flung around then you need to educate yourself.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-53997203
 

Jerry Shugart

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The only lies being spread are by these wingnuts. If you aren't aware that there's a bunch of bat crazy conspiracy lunacy being flung around then you need to educate yourself.

The biggest lie was spread by the Dems and the mainstream press and that lie was that Trump conspired with the Russians!

Only those who are mentally impaired believe it now!

That was the craziest conspiracy lunacy that has ever been flung around and Hillary Clinton was the source of the lie!

Of course since you keep your head buried in the sand you know nothing about this conspiracy which was nothing short of treason and was intended to overthrow the fair election of President Donald Trump. They got caught and there will be hell to pay for those scumbags!
 

Arthur Brain

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The biggest lie was spread by the Dems and the mainstream press and that lie was that Trump conspired with the Russians!

Only those who are mentally impaired believe it now!

That was the craziest conspiracy lunacy that has ever been flung around and Hillary Clinton was the source of the lie!

Of course since you keep your head buried in the sand you know nothing about this conspiracy which was nothing short of treason and was intended to overthrow the fair election of President Donald Trump. They got caught and there will be hell to pay for those scumbags!

Oh please, I've seen the unravelling of Trump since he first took office and his bat crazy rallies and press conferences along with his hissy fits when he made a clown of himself. The sad thing is, there's still people who'll lap up all sorts of conspiracy garbage like the Q-Anon nuttiness and Covid-19 being a hoax.

Still, "MAGA!"

:kookoo:
 

Jerry Shugart

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Oh please, I've seen the unravelling of Trump since he first took office and his bat crazy rallies and press conferences along with his hissy fits when he made a clown of himself.

The ones who are unraveling and have made clowns of themselves are the gullible people who actually believed the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory.
 
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