Much of the Bilble is for Adults Only!
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I was pretty darn clear on what I meant. Deal with it.
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I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the author of the thread.
Are you the author of the thread?
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The Bible does NOT say they were twins.
iamaberean
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No where in the bible does it say Cain is Adam's son.
Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel
Another seed instead of Abel. Why not Cain also? Because he was not Adam's son.
Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Gen 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Proof that there are still tares today. Real descendants of the wicked one through Cain.
1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel
Another seed instead of Abel. Why not Cain also? Because he was not Adam's son.
Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Gen 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Proof that there are still tares today. Real descendants of the wicked one through Cain.
1Jn 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
oatmeal
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Yes, that is true.
Eve succumbed to the temptation to disobey God's commandment.
The Devil, figuratively called the serpent here to emphasize his craftiness, successfully drew her away from God's word and Eve ended up believing the serpent instead of God. She ended up believing the opposite of the truth that God told them.
Yes, indeed Cain was of that wicked one. He irretrievably committed himself to serve Satan instead of God.
oatmeal
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No one becomes a child of Satan by physical means. Even as devils are spiritual beings, even so, those who sell out their lives to Satan become children of Satan, not physically, but spiritually.
As Jesus told some of his enemies in John, "ye are of your father, the Devil"
Those who are born again of God, are born again of God's spirit, incorruptible seed, it is a spiritual new birth. Like any child, we must learn to align our thinking with our Heavenly Father's will. We learn to believe and obey God and as we do we mature in our minds and hearts.
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Iamaberean,
Jesus tells us what makes one a child of God or a child of the wicked one.
No one is really a descendant of Satan.
Just like the children of God...it is by what we do.
We are told what we have to do to become children of God.
...and what we do to become children of the devil.
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I just read this. We agree on this.
This proves that we have to obey to get saved, and keep obeying to stay saved.
When one wants to get saved by Jesus, one must prepare their heart.
John the baptizer shows us how, by repentance.
Iama and Chair: re: Sodom and Gomorrah, A poor example, given that it was the report of a confessed incestuous pedophile who's wife left him when he had been run out of town by his neighbors. It is only him that says the people of the towns were evil and he is clearly not unbiased. He survived the natural disaster that destroyed the towns because he and his victims (daughters) were living in caves.
We know it was a natural disaster because Persian Astronomers recorded their sighting of the meteor on a brass plate and modern scientists were able figure out the trajectory of the object and where the cloud of secondary debris from the impact would have come down. The meteor hit the alps at a low angle, knocking the top off a mountain which came back down as a rain of red hot pebbles on Palestine. They even could estimate the temperature of the pebbles when they reached ground, about 400 to 500 degrees Fahrenheit. Literally a "rain of fire."
Taking Lot's word for it like taking a convicted criminal's word for the evilness of the country that imprisoned him.
We know it was a natural disaster because Persian Astronomers recorded their sighting of the meteor on a brass plate and modern scientists were able figure out the trajectory of the object and where the cloud of secondary debris from the impact would have come down. The meteor hit the alps at a low angle, knocking the top off a mountain which came back down as a rain of red hot pebbles on Palestine. They even could estimate the temperature of the pebbles when they reached ground, about 400 to 500 degrees Fahrenheit. Literally a "rain of fire."
Taking Lot's word for it like taking a convicted criminal's word for the evilness of the country that imprisoned him.
This is inaccurate. The story is not told as Lot's report. It is told by the Biblical narrator. In fact we have no basis at all for this story besides what the Bible reports. If you want to reject the Biblical story, or all Biblical stories, that's OK, but to decide arbitrarily that this is Lot's version and that this particular part is suspect doesn't make sense.
A link to this claim would be useful. You may want to think about when the event supposedly took place, and when "Persian Astronomers" lived.