Miscellaneous and Varied Truth's of scripture!

[beloved57]

Those whom God will not impute sin !

Those whom God will not impute sin !

2 Cor 5:21

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Rom 4:8

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

This special divine blessing saves all to whom it applies to from the punishment of sin, they are freed from sin by the body of Christ Rom 6:7

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Because all their sins have already been imputed to Christ, in which He hath already bare the punishment for them, yeah even eternal death.

Some liars say that God doesnt punish men for sin, however thats a lie, for anyone going into the second death is being punished for sins Rev 21:8

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

What is this but a list of sins ? and where shall their part be for them ? The second death, death itself is the wage of sin Rom 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death/second death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Now who wants to deny this ? The fact of the matter is this, All who have no sin charged to them 2 Cor 5:19; Rom 4:8 are in a state of reconciliation with God and Justification before Him, whether they are yet believers or not, because whether they believe or not, God does not impute sin to them, and Christ has taken away their sins before Gods Law and Justice !

 

[beloved57]

Made the Righteousness of God by Non Imputation !

Made the Righteousness of God by Non Imputation !

2 Cor 5:19-21

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made[become] the righteousness of God in him.

False teachers and believers seek to make 2 Cor 5:19, the word world, to make it refer to all mankind without exception, but that is a lie, because this world applies to only that segment of mankind, a remnant [which is a world in itself] that has no sin charged or imputed to it, and so it cannot be inclusive of them whom Gods Wrath shall be upon because of their sins as stated here with these Eph 5:4-6

4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Notice in Vs 6, Because of these things, which things refer to the sins indicated in Vs 4-5, so how can any of these be of that World in 2 Cor 5:19 that does not have sins charged to it ?

That lets us know without doubt that the world is Limited in 2 Cor 5:19, it cannot be all mankind without exception; not only that, this world because of non imputation of sin to it, its a world in which all of its members have been made the Righteousness of God in Him !

 

[beloved57]

Freed from sin ! What does it mean 3

Freed from sin ! What does it mean 3

The World in 2 Cor 5:21 cannot be a world which comprises all without exception, simply because those of this World are Freed from sin, its not charged or imputed by God to it and its inhabitants, and so it must be without fault, unblameable and unreprovable, they cannot be subject to any condemnation/punishment over sin, because they are freed from sin, by Non Imputation of it to them !

 

[beloved57]

Evidences of Grace, not conditions !

Evidences of Grace, not conditions !

Acts 20:21

21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Understand, things in scripture like Faith, Repentance, and obedience in the context of Salvation, they are never conditions for the natural man to perform in order to get saved, but they are manifestations of Salvation, its fruit, meaning those who comply to those things only make manifest that they have been saved by the work of Christ and His Spirit !

 

[beloved57]

Receiving the Righteousness of God !

Receiving the Righteousness of God !

Rom 1:16-17

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed/made known from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

The Gospel Revelation of the Righteousness of God is to Faith [a fruit of the Spirit], this Faith receives the Testimony and witness of the Gospel in the Power of the Spirit. Paul writes of declaring the Testimony of God 1 Cor 2:1-2

And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

2 Thess 1:10

When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Rom 8:16

The Spirit itself beareth witness/testifies unto with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Now this Gospel revelation is not offered to God given Faith, but it is revealed to Faith, hence thats how we receive the Word of Truth or believe it, not that it was offered to us, but revealed to us, made known to us by Faith. Its the Gospel of Christ, Gods Son, and by means of the Gospel He is Revealed in Us, as Paul stated of himself Gal1:16

16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Thats how we receive Him and His Righteousness, by revelation !

 

[beloved57]

Receiving the Righteousness of God !2

Receiving the Righteousness of God !2

This is also called receiving a Knowledge of Salvation, because to have Christ's Righteousness charged to ones account is Essentially all of their Salvation, and so Justified receive a Knowledge of it by the Gospel Lk 1:77

77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins

Thats the primary importance of the Gospel unto everyone Christ died for, because they all have remission of sins through His Blood Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

And all of that many, shall be given a knowledge of Salvation because of the remission of their sins by Christ's shed Blood !

It is when the Gospel accompanied by the Holy Spirit's Power, that Gods Redeemed People receive a practical conscience knowledge of their Salvation/Justification/remission of sins.

Understand, Remission/forgiveness of sins equals Justification from them, totally by Grace because of the Death of Christ Heb 2:9

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Every man here shall receive, be given a Knowledge of their Salvation by the remission of their sins because He tasted Death for them !

 

[beloved57]

Obedience to the Gospel !

Obedience to the Gospel !

Our Obedience to the Gospel that is Essential, meaning that Evangelical Obedience to the Faith Paul writes of Rom 16:25-26

25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

Now that Obedience is not the cause of ones Justification and or Righteousness before God, that is because they were made Righteous/Just by the Obedience of One, or another, that being Jesus Christ Rom 5:19b

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Also Rom 3:24 , and the greek word here for freely dorean means:

Without payment, freely done, or for nothing; thats right being freely Justified for nothing, that is for nothing they did, in fact this is so much the case, they were even Justified by Grace before any Gospel Obedience like Faith and Repentance, and even while they were God hating enemies Rom 5:10, by Christ's death or by the Redemption that is in Christ Jesus, and the Redemption spoken of in Rom 3:24 comprises His Obedience Rom 5:19 b, and since Paul writes that they are made Righteous by the Obedience of One, that One being Christ, we must exclude our evangelical obedience from the equation, such obedience mentioned in Rom 16:25-26, because having been made Righteous before God by One Obedience, that would make it Two obedience's, which would contradict Rom 5:19 b ! We must always seek to understand scripture in a way that doesn't contradict other scripture !

 

[Nanja]

2 Cor 5:19-21

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made[become] the righteousness of God in him.

False teachers and believers seek to make 2 Cor 5:19, the word world, to make it refer to all mankind without exception, but that is a lie, because this world applies to only that segment of mankind, a remnant [which is a world in itself] that has no sin charged or imputed to it, and so it cannot be inclusive of them whom Gods Wrath shall be upon because of their sins as stated here with these Eph 5:4-6

4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Notice in Vs 6, Because of these things, which things refer to the sins indicated in Vs 4-5, so how can any of these be of that World in 2 Cor 5:19 that does not have sins charged to it ?

That lets us know without doubt that the world is Limited in 2 Cor 5:19, it cannot be all mankind without exception; not only that, this world because of non imputation of sin to it, its a world in which all of its members have been made the Righteousness of God in Him !

I Agree. These verses are actually describing two different worlds of people.

The world in 2 Cor. 5:19 is a Forgiven World Eph. 1:7 of people, a Blessed People
which had no sin imputed to them Rom. 4:8, but instead was imputed to Christ
on their behalf. And that's who the "us all" are in Is. 53:6, whose sins were laid on Christ,
the Sheep He gave His life for John 10:15.

But the world in Eph. 5:4-6 have always been under the Wrath of God; their sin debt remains.
These are same which shall die in their sins John 8:24. Because Christ's Redeeming Death was not for them,
God's Law and Justice was not satisfied, so that's why they must be punished for their own sins Mat. 25:41; Rev. 21:8.

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[beloved57]

I Agree. These verses are actually describing two different worlds of people.

The world in 2 Cor. 5:19 is a Forgiven World Eph. 1:7 of people, a Blessed People
which had no sin imputed to them Rom. 4:8, but instead was imputed to Christ
on their behalf. And that's who the "us all" are in Is. 53:6, whose sins were laid on Christ,
the Sheep He gave His life for John 10:15.

But the world in Eph. 5:4-6 have always been under the Wrath of God; their sin debt remains.
These are same which shall die in their sins John 8:24. Because Christ's Redeeming Death was not for them,
God's Law and Justice was not satisfied, so that's why they must be punished for their own sins Mat. 25:41; Rev. 21:8.

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Exactly !

 

[beloved57]

Christ's Intercession is before we believed !

Christ's Intercession is before we believed !

Rom 8:31-34

31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.


Christ's Intercession is before Gods Elect believe in Him, and is the primary reason why they do believe.

He made intercession for them even while they were sinners/transgressors [pre-conversion] Isa 53:12

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.


He made intercession for the Transgressors of whom sins He bare and Isa 53:5

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

He makes Intercession for all He was delivered up for Rom 8:31-32, delivered up for their offences Rom 4:25, which of course He was also raised for their Justification, and those and only those does He make Intercession for, which results in them coming to God BY HIM, being saved to the uttermost Heb 7:25

25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

 

[beloved57]

Christ's Intercession is before we believed !2

Christ's Intercession is before we believed !2

Continuing with the previous thought Heb 7:25

25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

The word by here is the greek prep dia and means:

by reason of, which means they come to God by reason of Christ, and on account of, on account of His death 1 Pet 3:18

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Bringing the elect, those He died for, makes intercession for, is the purposed result of His death, suffering for their sins,

And His Intercession in Heaven is in agreement with that Purpose Heb 7:25, also see Rom 5:10 on account of His Life, we can connect His Life in Rom 5:10 with the "seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them." in Heb 7:25.

The shall be saved by His Life can be understood of His Life of Intercession after He was risen and seated at the Right Hand of God Rom 8:34, hence Christ's Intercession is Vital to ones coming to Faith and Repentance, after being called, hence the order is, His Intercession, then the Call of the Gospel, then their belief of the Truth/Faith !

 

[beloved57]

Christ's Intercession is before we believed !3

Christ's Intercession is before we believed !3

Christ being in Heaven making Intercession for those He died for, means that after having provided full satisfaction to Gods Law and Justice on their behalf, that Great and Perfect Work being completed, its always presented to the Father in Heaven, on their behalf, and so He in His Glorified state is always there a #1 Heb 2:17

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Heb 4:14

14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

Heb 7:26

26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

Heb 8:1

Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

And He is an Faithful Advocate 1 Jn 2:1

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate/interceder with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

His advocacy and intercession is premised on the fact that He has for them satisfied Gods Law and Justice with His, for their defense, for Christ in His exalted state at the Fathers Right Hand, always pleads His Blood Sacrifice for the remission of their sins, so He is their constant counsel for defense, legal assistant, as Long as He died for their sins, whether presently a believer or not, since He made Intercession for transgressors Isa 53:12, or its also appropriate to say He makes Advocacy for transgressors, for He advocates for unbelieving sinners that He died for, so even while enemies, because He died for them, they have been reconciled to God Rom 5:10 !

 

[beloved57]

Belonged to Christ before they believed !

Belonged to Christ before they believed !

Believers and or Sheep or Elect belong to Christ before they believed. This means that they were His People, Sheep prior to them coming to Faith in Him, because they are His People beforehand, they do come to Him or believe in Him. This truth is indicated from Jn 10:16

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Jesus says here other sheep He now has or possess, they are actually in His Possession, but their hearing His Voice is yet future, He currently holds them, but they are yet to be brought to hear His Voice, these in the context means the Gentile Sheep, Sheep He has who are not of the jewish fold of Sheep He also had [like His Disciples].

The word have "other sheep i have" its the greek word eckho and means:

I.to have, i.e. to hold , II.to have i.e. own, possess , A.to be closely joined to a person or a thing

and here in this context its in the present tense, so He is presently possessing them, even joined to them before they hear His Voice and Believe, like stated here Acts 15:7

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

 

[beloved57]

Belonged to Christ before they believed ! 2

Belonged to Christ before they believed ! 2

Peter could say this Acts 15:7 with certainty, that Gentiles should hear and believe, because before they believe, they had already belonged to Christ, in fact they were the very ones Jesus spoke of in Jn 10:16 those other Sheep that should hear His Voice, which He had, they along with jewish sheep had been given to Him as stipulated here Jn 17:2

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

The word given here is in the perfect tense, a completed act in the past, and so from this perspective He has possession of them, the same for Jn 10:29

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Then secondly they belonged to Christ before they believed, because He purchased them with His Own Blood, Redemptively Acts 20:28

28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased gain possession of with his own blood.

The word purchase peripoieō means to:

make my own, to get possession of !

 

[beloved57]

Belonged to Christ before they believed ! 3

Belonged to Christ before they believed ! 3

For the Believer, before they believe, had already been bought with a price [the blood of Christ], and even then before he believed, he was not his own 1 Cor 6:20

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Now they were bought with the price of His Blood, and redemptively were His Possession before faith in Him; So even when believers are yet enemies[unbelievers] idolaters, whore mongers and etc, they still belong to Christ redemptively, and consequently are even Justified by His Blood even then.

Yes those Christ died for, even when they are in Idolatry and unbelief, they are still Christ's Justified, blood washed possession, Justified before God, again based solely on His Blood, and since that is so, the shall, they must live by Faith Jn 10:16 and according to the biblical maxim The Just shall live by Faith Rom 1:17 , that is, those made Just by Christ's blood, shall live by Faith, they shall hear His Voice and Follow Him , because they always belonged to Him !

 

[beloved57]

Representative Being in Christ !

Representative Being in Christ !

That Gods Elect had a Representative Being or Existence in Christ before the foundation is perceived in that to them was given purpose and grace 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

They had the same representative being and existence at the beginning of the world in Adam, but in Christ before the beginning of the World !

 

[Nanja]

That Gods Elect had a Representative Being or Existence in Christ before the foundation is perceived in that to them was given purpose and grace 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

They had the same representative being and existence at the beginning of the world in Adam, but in Christ before the beginning of the World !

Those Chosen in Union with Christ, their Surety Head, before the world began,
are exclusively the same ones which were in their federal head Adam before he sinned Rom. 8:29.

So, being that all the Elect World were in Union with Christ their Surety Head before the world began,
indicates that He, their Mediator, existed before He Created the world. And that's when they were given
purpose and Grace Eph. 1:6,9, which encompasses all Spiritual Blessings in heavenly places in Christ Eph. 1:3,
being made heirs Eph. 1:11, 18; even bearing His Imputed Righteousness Eph. 1:4,7; Rom. 4:8,
and they were Justified by this same Grace Titus 3:7 which was given them before the World began 2 Tim. 1:9!

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[beloved57]

Those Chosen in Union with Christ, their Surety Head, before the world began,
are exclusively the same ones which were in their federal head Adam before he sinned Rom. 8:29.

So, being that all the Elect World were in Union with Christ their Surety Head before the world began,
indicates that He, their Mediator, existed before He Created the world. And that's when they were given
purpose and Grace Eph. 1:6,9, which encompasses all Spiritual Blessings in heavenly places in Christ Eph. 1:3,
being made heirs Eph. 1:11, 18; even bearing His Imputed Righteousness Eph. 1:4,7; Rom. 4:8,
and they were Justified by this same Grace Titus 3:7 which was given them before the World began 2 Tim. 1:9!

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Amen , Thanks for your input !

 

[beloved57]

Non Imputation equals Righteousness !

Non Imputation equals Righteousness !

Where the Word of Truth teaches non imputation of sin as Per Ps 32:2

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Rom 4:8

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Then the Imputation of Righteousness is also True. These are sinners who have no sins laid to their charge, thats why they are so blessed of God.

These sinners have no charges of the Law blamed upon them, even though they are in themselves constant law breakers, but God still considers them Righteous based upon Non Imputation.

The World of 2 Cor 5:19 is a Righteous World reckoned so by the Justice of God in Non Imputation, so we know it cannot include all humanity without exception, since many are being condemned for their sins in Unbelief Jn 8:24 !

 

[Nanja]

Where the Word of Truth teaches non imputation of sin as Per Ps 32:2

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Rom 4:8

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Then the Imputation of Righteousness is also True. These are sinners who have no sins laid to their charge, thats why they are so blessed of God.

These sinners have no charges of the Law blamed upon them, even though they are in themselves constant law breakers, but God still considers them Righteous based upon Non Imputation.

The World of 2 Cor 5:19 is a Righteous World reckoned so by the Justice of God in Non Imputation, so we know it cannot include all humanity without exception, since many are being condemned for their sins in Unbelief Jn 8:24 !

Truly, this World of 2 Cor. 5:19, the Election of Grace, is a Blessed World:
Christ's Sheep He died for John 10:11,15!

It was God's Purpose to Choose Some in Union with Christ Eph. 1:4,
their Head and Surety from everlasting Heb. 7:22; 1 Pet. 1:20,
to have total remission / forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:7;
having no iniquity /sin imputed to them, but imputed to Christ Jesus in their stead.

Is. 53:6
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way;
and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Ps. 24:5
He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.


However, the rest of humanity are cursed Mat. 25:41; they still bear their own iniquity,
and must pay the penalty, be punished Mat. 25:46 for their own sins Rom. 6:23a,
which is the Second Death Rev. 21:8!

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