Messianic Christology

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13 Behold, my servant shall deal wisely, he shall be exalted and lifted up, and shall be very high. 14 Like as many were astonished at thee (his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men), 15 so shall he sprinkle many nations; kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they understand.
1 Who hath believed our message? and to whom hath the arm of Jehovah been revealed? 2 For he grew up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He was despised, and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and as one from whom men hide their face he was despised; and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and Jehovah hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, yet when he was afflicted he opened not his mouth; as a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and as a sheep that before its shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth. 8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who among them considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living for the transgression of my people to whom the stroke was due? 9 And they made his grave with the wicked, and with a rich man in his death; although he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it pleased Jehovah to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of Jehovah shall prosper in his hand. 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by the knowledge of himself shall my righteous servant justify many; and he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he poured out his soul unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors: yet he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Isaiah 52:13 - 53:13

This passage teaches

Messiah would be born of natural circumstances with no unusual characteristics.

Messiah's first coming would be marked with suffering.

Messiah's first coming would be rejected.

Messiah would undergo a legal trial and be condemned to death.

Messiah would be executed.

Messiah would be buried in a rich man's tomb.

Messiah would be resurrected.

All of the Messiahs suffering and death were to be substitutionary. He died so that we may have life. He died so that our sins could be removed from us. He died so that we may enter into a new relationship with God.

Messiah would bring justification to all who believe in Him.
 
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1 The Spirit of the Lord Jehovah is upon me; because Jehovah hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; 2 to proclaim the year of Jehovah’s favor, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; 3 to appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them a garland for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of Jehovah, that he may be glorified.
Isaiah 61:1-3

This passage teaches

Messiah would be anointed by the Spirit for His mission.

Messiah would have a prophetic preaching
ministry.
 
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. 5 Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is his name whereby he shall be called: Jehovah our righteousness.
Jeremiah 23:5-6

This passage teaches

Messiah would be a God Man.

The Messiah would be Jehovah Himself; Jehovah would become a man.

Messiah would be a descendant of David and therefore king. Jeremiah here reaffirms the Davidic Covenant (discussed under I Chronicles 17:10b - 14).
 
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. 2 But thou, Beth-lehem Ephrathah, which art little to be among the thousands of Judah, out of thee shall one come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting.
Micah 5:2

This verse teaches that

Messiah would be born in Bethlehem the city of David.

Messiah would be divine as well as human, having existing from eternity past.
 
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9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy king cometh unto thee; he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ***, even upon a colt the foal of an ***. 10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem; and the battle bow shall be cut off; and he shall speak peace unto the nations: and his dominion shall be from sea to sea, and from the River to the ends of the earth.
Zachariah 9:9-10

This passage teaches that

Messiah's first coming would be in humility.

Messiah's official presentation as the Messianic King would come when He rides into Jerusalem, riding on the foal of a donkey.
 
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1 Open thy doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour thy cedars. 2 Wail, O fir-tree, for the cedar is fallen, because the goodly ones are destroyed: wail, O ye oaks of Bashan, for the strong forest is come down. 3 A voice of the wailing of the shepherds! for their glory is destroyed: a voice of the roaring of young lions! for the pride of the Jordan is laid waste. 4 Thus said Jehovah my God: Feed the flock of slaughter; 5 whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty; and they that sell them say, Blessed be Jehovah, for I am rich; and their own shepherds pity them not. 6 For I will no more pity the inhabitants of the land, saith Jehovah; but, lo, I will deliver the men every one into his neighbor’s hand, and into the hand of his king; and they shall smite the land, and out of their hand I will not deliver them. 7 So I fed the flock of slaughter, verily the poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock.
Zachariah 11:1-7

This passage teaches that

Messiah's first coming would be rejected, especially by the Jewish leaders.

While the nation as a whole would reject Messiah there would be a small Remnant of believing people who would accept Him.

The leadership of Israel would sell Him out for thirty pieces of silver.

The results of the rejection would be twofold, first, the protection would be taken away leaving Israel vulnerable to Gentile attack - in AD 70. Second, unity would be removed and Israel would be scattered.

Because they turned away from the true Messiah they would foolishly accept a false messiah. This led to the second devastation of the land in AD 135.

If the destruction described in verses 1-3 were the destruction in AD 70 then the Messiah would have to come before 70 AD.

Messiah is the Good Shepherd Jn 10:11-18
 
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10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto me whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born.

Zachariah 12:10

This verse teaches

Messiah's first coming would be rejected by Israel.

Messiah would die a violent death by means of piercing.

Messiah would be both God and man.
 
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7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith Jehovah of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered; and I will turn my hand upon the little ones.

Zachariah 13:7

This verse teaches

Messiah will be a God - Man.

Messiah's death would be violent.

Messiah's death would cause the dispersion of Israel.
 
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1 Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant, whom ye desire, behold, he cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts.

Malachi 3:1

This verse teaches that Messiah will have a forerunner.
 

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10 and as from the day that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel; and I will subdue all thine enemies. Moreover I tell thee that Jehovah will build thee a house. 11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days are fulfilled that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will set up thy seed after thee, who shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build me a house, and I will establish his throne for ever. 13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my lovingkindness away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee; 14 but I will settle him in my house and in my kingdom for ever; and his throne shall be established for ever.

II Chronicles 17:10b - 14

This passage teaches that

Messiah will be a son of David descended from a different line than Jechoniah.

Since all tribal and genealogical records were destroyed with temple in 70 AD, Messiah had to come before that time.

Messiah would live eternally.

Messiah would be a king.
 
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7 I will tell of the decree:
Jehovah said unto me, Thou art my son;
This day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I will give thee the nations for thine inheritance,
And the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron;
Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
10 Now therefore be wise, O ye kings:
Be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve Jehovah with fear,
And rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and ye perish in the way,
For his wrath will soon be kindled.
Blessed are all they that take refuge in him.

Psalm 2:7-12

This passage teaches that

Messiah would be the Son of God.

Messiah will be a king in Jerusalem.

Messiah will also rule over the Gentiles.
 
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1 Preserve me, O God; for in thee do I take refuge.
2 O my soul, thou hast said unto Jehovah, Thou art my Lord:
I have no good beyond thee.
3 As for the saints that are in the earth,
They are the excellent in whom is all my delight.
4 Their sorrows shall be multiplied that give gifts for another god:
Their drink-offerings of blood will I not offer,
Nor take their names upon my lips.
5 Jehovah is the portion of mine inheritance and of my cup:
Thou maintainest my lot.
6 The lines are fallen unto me in pleasant places;
Yea, I have a goodly heritage.
7 I will bless Jehovah, who hath given me counsel;
Yea, my heart instructeth me in the night seasons.
8 I have set Jehovah always before me:
Because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved.
9 Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth:
My flesh also shall dwell in safety.
10 For thou wilt not leave my soul to Sheol;
Neither wilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption.
11 Thou wilt show me the path of life:
In thy presence is fulness of joy;
In thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

Psalm16

This passage teaches that

Messiah would enjoy a unique relationship with God the Father. This aspect of Messiah's life is particularly brought out by the Gospel of John.

Messiah would die.

Messiah would be raised back to life.
 
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For the Chief Musician; set to Aijaleth hash-Shahar. A Psalm of David.

1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou answerest not;
And in the night season, and am not silent.
3 But thou art holy,
O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
4 Our fathers trusted in thee:
They trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered:
They trusted in thee, and were not put to shame.
6 But I am a worm, and no man;
A reproach of men, and despised of the people.
7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn:
They shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
8 Commit thyself unto Jehovah;
Let him deliver him:
Let him rescue him, seeing he delighteth in him.
9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb;
Thou didst make me trust when I was upon my mother’s breasts.
10 I was cast upon thee from the womb;
Thou art my God since my mother bare me.
11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near;
For there is none to help.
12 Many bulls have compassed me;
Strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
13 They gape upon me with their mouth,
As a ravening and a roaring lion.
14 I am poured out like water,
And all my bones are out of joint:
My heart is like wax;
It is melted within me.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd;
And my tongue cleaveth to my jaws;
And thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
16 For dogs have compassed me:
A company of evil-doers have inclosed me;
They pierced my hands and my feet.
17 I may count all my bones.
They look and stare upon me;
18 They part my garments among them,
And upon my vesture do they cast lots.
19 But be not thou far off, O Jehovah:
O thou my succor, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword,
My darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion’s mouth;
Yea, from the horns of the wild-oxen thou hast answered me.
22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren:
In the midst of the assembly will I praise thee.
23 Ye that fear Jehovah, praise him;
All ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him;
And stand in awe of him, all ye the seed of Israel.
24 For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;
Neither hath he hid his face from him;
But when he cried unto him, he heard.
25 Of thee cometh my praise in the great assembly:
I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied;
They shall praise Jehovah that seek after him:
Let your heart live for ever.
27 All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn unto Jehovah;
And all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
28 For the kingdom is Jehovah’s;
And he is the ruler over the nations.
29 All the fat ones of the earth shall eat and worship:
All they that go down to the dust shall bow before him,
Even he that cannot keep his soul alive.
30 A seed shall serve him;
It shall be told of the Lord unto the next generation.
31 They shall come and shall declare his righteousness
Unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done it.

Psalm 22

This passage teaches that

In extreme agony Messiah would cry out for God's help.

Messiah would be a despised and rejected individual.

The Messiah's bones would all be pulled out of joint.

The Messiah's heart would rupture.

Messiah would suffer an extreme degree of thirst.

Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced.

Messiah's clothing would be divided by casting of lots.

At the point of death Messiah's trust would be in God the Father.

Messiah would be resurrected.
 
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17 Let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand,
Upon the son of man whom thou madest strong for thyself.

Psalm 80:17

This verse teaches

Messiah would be seated at the right hand of God the Father.

Messiah must be equal to the Father to sit at God the Father's right hand therefore Messiah must be both God and man.
 
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A Psalm of David.
1 Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand,
Until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
2 Jehovah will send forth the rod of thy strength out of Zion:
Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
3 Thy people offer themselves willingly
In the day of thy power, in holy array:
Out of the womb of the morning
Thou hast the dew of thy youth.
4 Jehovah hath sworn, and will not repent:
Thou art a priest for ever
After the order of Melchizedek.
5 The Lord at thy right hand
Will strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
6 He will judge among the nations,
He will fill the places with dead bodies;
He will strike through the head in many countries.
7 He will drink of the brook in the way:
Therefore will he lift up the head.

Psalm 110

This psalm teaches

Messiah would be both king and priest, after the order of Melchizadek.

Messiah would have to be both God and man. To be priest He would have to be man but to sit at the right hand of God He would have to be equal with God.

Messiah's first coming would be rejected.

After Messiah was rejected, He would ascend into heaven.

After His ascension Messiah would sit down at God's right hand.

Messiah will return when Israel accepts Him.

Messiah will rule over Israel in the Messianic Kingdom.
 
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4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, and descended?
Who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
Who hath bound the waters in his garment?
Who hath established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou knowest?

Proverbs 30:4

This verse teaches

Messiah would be uniquely the Son of God.
 
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24 Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most holy. 25 Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the anointed one, the prince, shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: it shall be built again, with street and moat, even in troublous times. 26 And after the threescore and two weeks shall the anointed one be cut off, and shall have nothing: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and even unto the end shall be war; desolations are determined. 27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.

Daniel 9:24-27

This passage teaches that

Messiah would be present 483 after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem.

Media would be legally executed.

Messiahs death would result in the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem.

Messiah's birth and death therefore had to have taken place before AD 70.
 
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Well, I took a look at your thread, just as I told you I would do. But all I see is a rather incomplete list of the same old, over regurgitated, so-called “proof texts” which have been spewed by chr-stians for decades.

During my lifetime I have watched this list grow from about 40 or 50 to the over 400 of them that exist today. As time passes they just keep getting more and more ridiculous.

Usually out of the lists of 350, 400 and more they usually include precisely 2 authentic messianic prophecies Y’sha’yahu chapter 2 and Y’sha’yahu chapter 11. But, you seem to have omitted the only two legitimate messianic prophecies, which are normally on the other lists, from your list,.

All of these so-called “proof texts” are a prime example of circular reasoning. The only way anyone is going to believe that any of these English translation “proof texts” refer to chr-stianity’s Yéshu is if they believe that he was a real person who actually existed at some point in time to begin with; and that the far-fetched tall tales written about him in the chr-stian texts are something other than the fiction that they are.

If you spout these to any Jew who has the most rudimentary form of education, all you are going to get is a good laugh. Proper translation defeats 80% them, and context defeats all of them.

There are only about 2 dozen or so authentic messianic prophecies found throughout the Hebrew Scriptures and out of these only about 4 or 5 even tacitly speak about the future King who will sit on the throne of David in Y’rushalaim.

HaMashiyaḥ will be an adult male, Y-chromosome descendent of both David and Sh’lomoh, living in ʾEretz Yis’raél at the time God selects him out of the multitudes of sons of David. HaMashiyaḥ will not be selected until all of the ten lost tribes of the former Northern Kingdom of Yis’raél and the three scattered tribes of the former Kingdom of Y’hudah are reunited as one unified nation in ʿEretz Yis’raél.

At last count, the ten lost tribes have been lost for 2,734 years and still counting. The nation of Y’hudah was not completely scattered until about 135 CE, over 100 years after Yéshu supposedly died. How could anyone be eligible for the position of Mashiyaḥ when one of the major pre-pre-requisites had not even been met? Y’hudah has to be scattered before it can be gathered, and that scattering did not occur during Yéshu’s alleged lifetime.

Jews are forbidden from even associating with the vast majority of things that chr-stians believe. Nothing is more pagan than the belief that any god would impregnate any human female and produce a demigod. Nothing is more blasphemous than believing that the God of Yis’raél would commit adultery with any man’s wife. God created man out of dust, why would He need to rape someone’s wife to produce a King that never even became King?

Everything about chr-stianity is the exact polar opposite of Judaism. In reality, your so-called christ is the epitome of anti-christ. He is exactly the opposite of everything that the future King is supposed to be.

I honestly see no need in picking these apart one by one, especially considering that chr-stianity’s Yéshu is a fictional character created by the pagan Emperor Theodosius I of Rome in 380 CE in an attempt to unite the Empire under one unified religion. Chr-stianity was created as an amalgamation of all existing pagan religions and mystery cults that existed at the time. He figured that if he took all existing religions and shook them up in a big pot and dumped it out with new names everyone would eagerly jump on the band wagon. He only called him the Jewish Messiah in an attempt to get the Jews to play along. We did not and it led to a 1,600 year attempt to massacre all of the Jews. Newsflash: we are still here! And the whole world is plagued by the “abomination of desolation” that is chr-stianity.

However there is at least one p'suq that you "quoted" that I will comment on, perhaps more but I haven’t decided yet.
 
Y’sha’yahu 7:14 is probably the most deceitfully translated verse in the Hebrew Scriptures. What it actually says is:

לָ֠כֵן יִתֵּ֨ן אֲדֹנָ֥י ה֛וּא לָכֶ֖ם אֹ֑ות הִנֵּ֣ה הָעַלְמָ֗ה הָרָה֙ וְיֹלֶ֣דֶת בֵּ֔ן וְקָרָ֥את שְׁמֹ֖ו עִמָּ֥נוּ אֵֽל׃
Laḵén yittén ʾĂdonay Huʾ laḵem ʾot hinnéh haʿal’mah harah v’yoledet bén v’qaraʾt sh’mo ʿImmanu ʾÉl:

“Because of this my Lord will give you a sign: Look! That girl is pregnant and she is giving birth to a son. And she will call his name ʿImannu ʾÉl.”

There is absolutely nothing in this p’suq about any virgin at all. There is absolutely nothing in this p’suq about any future pregnancy. There is absolutely nothing in this p’suq about any future birth. The only remark in this passage that refers to any future event is that she “will” at some point in the future, probably 8 days later, name him ʿImmanu ʾÉl.

At the time that Y’sha’yahu is pointing at this pregnant girl, telling Aḥaz to look at her, she is in the midst of heavy labor. She is in the process of giving birth to a child as they are speaking. P’suq 14 is not the sign being given to Aḥaz, the actual sign is given in the subsequent p’suqim. The child will be fed curdled cream and honey to expedite his understanding of what tastes bad and what tastes good. Before this newborn infant is old enough to discern the difference between what tastes bad and what tastes good, the two kings that ʾAḥaz has been fearing will be no more.

This was a sign, not a prophecy, not a prediction of the future, a clear and present sign. “See this baby that is being born as we speak. Before he is old enough to tell the difference between what tastes good and what tastes bad the Kingdoms you fear will be no more.

This was fulfilled in 722 BCE. It is not messianic, it does not refer to the messianic age in any manner, shape or form, and certainly has nothing to do with any “virgin” becoming pregnant at any time.
 
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