McDonald's

fool

Well-known member
Hall of Fame
Order your burger without the slivered onions then they have to make it fresh cause all the patties in the holding tray have em.
 

fool

Well-known member
Hall of Fame
Sounds like a pro tip. I'm going to try that.

Double Quarter Pounder with cheese no onions.
You might have to pull ahead and wait for them to bring it out if they're busy.
When it comes you open the box and notice that the bun is moist, because it was laid down upon hot patties.
The cheese is dripping because, again, it was laid upon a hot burger and not some zombie burger that's 20 minutes old.
You take the first bite, some cheese drips onto your beard but you pay no mind because that will save it for later. You examine the bite in the burger as you chew that sweet juicy ambrosia and you press the burger ever so lightly between thumb and fore finger to see the clear fatty juice run run out of the grain of the patty.
YES, you think, this is how it's supposed to be.

Also, Burger King will put bacon on whatever you tell them to put bacon on.
 

chrysostom

Well-known member
Hall of Fame
last count in 2013
145 items on the menu
how much stuff must be on hand for that?
how does an employee get familiar with that?
how does the customer read the menu?

the last time I was in an in & out burger
there were like four items on the menu

whataburger has the best fries
and
they have spicy ketchup
 

chrysostom

Well-known member
Hall of Fame
it all started with the egg mcmuffin
possibly the best breakfast sandwich ever
but
all of a sudden
there were two dozen choices
my favorite was
the bacon, egg, cheese bagel
until
they did something to it
and
I never ordered it again

the egg mcmuffin is still good
 

shagster01

New member
it all started with the egg mcmuffin
possibly the best breakfast sandwich ever
but
all of a sudden
there were two dozen choices
my favorite was
the bacon, egg, cheese bagel
until
they did something to it
and
I never ordered it again

the egg mcmuffin is still good

I hadn't eaten at McDonald's in years and years, but a few months back I stopped there for an egg mcmuffin on the way to the airport. It wasn't bad, actually.
 

musterion

Well-known member
it all started with the egg mcmuffin
possibly the best breakfast sandwich ever
but
all of a sudden
there were two dozen choices
my favorite was
the bacon, egg, cheese bagel
until
they did something to it
and
I never ordered it again

the egg mcmuffin is still good

Pay extra and have them make you an Egg McMuffin with bacon, sausage as well as ham. It's the tastiest thing on their menu.
 

Nick M

Born that men no longer die
LIFETIME MEMBER
Hall of Fame
it all started with the egg mcmuffin
possibly the best breakfast sandwich ever but all of a sudden there were two dozen choices

What? McDs has 24 varieties of the Egg McMuffin? I know they also sell the Sausage McMuffin, but didn't know there were 24 choices.
 

chrysostom

Well-known member
Hall of Fame
I hadn't eaten at McDonald's in years and years, but a few months back I stopped there for an egg mcmuffin on the way to the airport. It wasn't bad, actually.

I think they have a machine that makes them, wraps them, and quickly freezes them
then
they have this microwave specially programed to heat them up

their coffee was the best
until
I got some that had been hanging around a little too long

that should never happen

I don't think they will recover from this
there is a lot of competition
and
it is hard to get them back after they have been disappointed more than once
 

Buzzword

New member
First and foremost, demonstrate and guarantee that the stuff in the patties and McNuggets is actually meat.
The pink paste is what has driven me and many friends and family away from McDonald's, not the service or the sanitation.
I'll eat in a gas station bathroom served by a bitter old abusive alcoholic if I know the food was made of quality ingredients (like, actual meat and vegetables), and crafted with love and skill rather than "manufactured".

Second, pay employees a living wage instead of forcing them to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
You want courteous employees?
TAKE CARE OF THEM.
Pay them enough to take care of their children, and give them enough hours to do more than not-quite-break-even each month.
Employees who are cared for by the company have a greater chance of being loyal to the company, and thus an exponentially greater chance of greater productivity and courtesy to customers.

Thirdly, decide once and for all which bracket of the food industry you're going to occupy.
Don't try to be a burger joint AND a fried chicken restaurant AND a salad bar.
Pick one, go whole hog, and the quality of the food will skyrocket, and the company's stock with it.


We see all three of these applied to amazing effect in mom-n-pop diners, drive-ins, and dives all over the country.
 

brinny

New member
They're hurtin' bad, numbers are down again, franchisees are spooked but the company seems to be in denial.

McD's corporate owned stores are reportedly better managed and maintained than franchises. What, if anything, could franchises do to recover their lost market share? I say three things:

1. Find whoever trains Chik-Fil-A employees to be so pleasant and train McD's employees to be the same, or else.

2. Keep the place spotless at all times. Especially the can and the self-serve condiment bar.

3. Make McD's worth bringing the family to again. Deliver the absolute highest quality for the lowest possible price. Simplify the menu. Variety is nice but if the variety is bleh, it won't help (if it did, the Dollar Menu would be pointless). Do a select handful of menu items better than anyone else does them. Kinda like this used to be:

Z9XL

They should'a never killed Ronald McDonald, mon.
 

bybee

New member
First and foremost, demonstrate and guarantee that the stuff in the patties and McNuggets is actually meat.
The pink paste is what has driven me and many friends and family away from McDonald's, not the service or the sanitation.
I'll eat in a gas station bathroom served by a bitter old abusive alcoholic if I know the food was made of quality ingredients (like, actual meat and vegetables), and crafted with love and skill rather than "manufactured".

Second, pay employees a living wage instead of forcing them to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
You want courteous employees?
TAKE CARE OF THEM.
Pay them enough to take care of their children, and give them enough hours to do more than not-quite-break-even each month.
Employees who are cared for by the company have a greater chance of being loyal to the company, and thus an exponentially greater chance of greater productivity and courtesy to customers.

Thirdly, decide once and for all which bracket of the food industry you're going to occupy.
Don't try to be a burger joint AND a fried chicken restaurant AND a salad bar.
Pick one, go whole hog, and the quality of the food will skyrocket, and the company's stock with it.


We see all three of these applied to amazing effect in mom-n-pop diners, drive-ins, and dives all over the country.

I think this is good advice. Loyal employees are earned. Loyal customers are earned not only by a good product but also by loyal employees.
 

chrysostom

Well-known member
Hall of Fame
Thirdly, decide once and for all which bracket of the food industry you're going to occupy.
Don't try to be a burger joint AND a fried chicken restaurant AND a salad bar.
Pick one, go whole hog, and the quality of the food will skyrocket, and the company's stock with it.

no
this is first and foremost
do a few things better, cheaper, and faster than anyone else

jimmy johns figured this out real good
 

musterion

Well-known member
First and foremost, demonstrate and guarantee that the stuff in the patties and McNuggets is actually meat.

They already did.

Second, pay employees a living wage instead of forcing them to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
How much? Name a $ figure.

Thirdly, decide once and for all which bracket of the food industry you're going to occupy.
Agreed, but already pointed out more than once.
 

Buzzword

New member
How much? Name a $ figure.

Calculate based on cost-of-living by location, then add an extra third of whatever amount is calculated, again in the interest of earning employee loyalty.

It's just common sense to pay an employee in Los Angeles, who needs $2000/month for a broom closet, more than an employee in Joplin, who can get a two-bedroom duplex for $500/month.
 

musterion

Well-known member
Calculate based on cost-of-living by location, then add an extra third of whatever amount is calculated, again in the interest of earning employee loyalty.

It's just common sense to pay an employee in Los Angeles, who needs $2000/month for a broom closet, more than an employee in Joplin, who can get a two-bedroom duplex for $500/month.

How much an hour where you live? Name a figure.
 

Buzzword

New member
How much an hour where you live? Name a figure.

Assuming McDonald's also stopped cutting employee hours and actually allowed employees to work full-time?

$15/hour.

I calculated rent and utilities based on my own bills, plus a conservative (i.e. probably too low) estimate for food, and it came to $1575 per month.
So to break even, an employee who walked everywhere working 40 hours per week would need to earn $10/hour to break even, before taxes.

Estimating taxation rates based on my own experience, and adding fuel and other vehicle expenses which are necessary in a large metropolitan area with no reliable mass transit, a total gross earnings of $2400/month would be necessary for a single adult with no children to support him/herself in Oklahoma City.

And Oklahoma City has one of the lower cost-of-living rates among the major cities of this country.

So the protests of McDonald's employees calling for a raise is not in fact that ludicrous.
 
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