Marijuana legalization: What say you?
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PureX
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I don't believe being high on pot has ever been used to successfully avoid responsibility for having committed a crime. If you are aware of even three instances of this happening in the whole history of the United States, I'd love to hear them.
PureX
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Agree with what? When has any judge, anywhere, ever ruled that someone was not responsible for a crime because they were high on pot?
"The Lord has brought forth medicinal herbs from the ground, and no one sensible will despise them." -- Sirach 38:4
Putting people with no criminal record and who are caught for the first with an ounce of pot in jail makes absolutely ZERO sense .
Yet this happens too often .
This wastes billions of dollars every year and leaves people who are not a danger to society with criminal records for life .
Yet this happens too often .
This wastes billions of dollars every year and leaves people who are not a danger to society with criminal records for life .
Yes, but it's good for the prison-industrial complex and their vested interests, and that's why it's done.
PureX
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Sadly, this is exactly so.
It seems most of our government decisions are being made based on the legalized bribery of our state and federal legislatures, for the purpose of increasing profits to the economic conglomerates that pay the bribes. They don't call this bribery, but that's what it is. And the result is that our government is making more and more irresponsible decisions that inevitably harm the general public, just to favor the wealthy elite.
And the reason they get away with this is that unfortunately, it's very easy to stir up people's animosity toward others, and get them to approve of harmful social policies so long as people think the harm will be done to someone else. Someone that we imagine "deserves it". Like poor people, and ethnic minorities, and homosexuals, and Muslims, and "pot-head hippies", and basically anyone that we like to imagine ourselves as being better than.
Using this innate animosity, turned against each other, these conglomerates get us to approve policies that harm our society in all sorts of ways. And yet when someone tries to point this out, they'll be harangued with insects and idiotic rationalizations by the general public because the alternative would be that we would have to admit that we're being played for fools by our own prejudices. And we'd much rather insult our neighbor that admit to that.
So you are right, it's nonsensical for someone to be put in prison for possession of an ounce of pot, and that these idiotic laws exist because there's money to be made incarcerating people, and the people making that money can bribe their legislators to write these idiotic laws and get them passed. But we are the culprits, too. Because they play on our own stupid prejudices to get us to let them get away with it. And we do let them, and have been letting them get away with it for decades. And as long as they can keep us hating each other more than we hate them for robbing and abusing us, and for destroying our society in the process, they will continue to get away with it.
Welcome to the Unites States or America, a land ruled by willful ignorance, spite, and greed.
Do you regard it a personal freedom? I see owning a firearm a personal freedom, as such, I have no issue on that end. What about its effect? can it be as well understood as alcohol?
One cannot drink and drive, there are ways to test driver who may be legally drunk, what about marijuana?
One cannot drink and drive, there are ways to test driver who may be legally drunk, what about marijuana?
Foxfire
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Marijuana breathalyzer tests aren't far off.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/04/25/new-breathalyzer-can-detect-marijuana-cocaine-heroin
It is about personal freedom. DUI already covers weed.
huh? I did not know?
What about the other effects> We know how alcohol affects one, but do we know about marijuana?
What? I don't think it even matters. I can grow my own weed or brew my own beer. Both should be legal.
That is not an argument. You are saying if you can make it, then it should be legal. What about Methamphetamine?
Is a little meth ok ?
kiddin' :chuckle:
kiddin' :chuckle:
The entire drug war is a waste. Addiction is a medical issue not a criminal one.
Try telling that to the FBI, see how far you get. You are a bit of a child, I see.
What? Addiction is indeed a medical issue. That is why effective rehab is done in hospitals.
What does the FBI have to do with drug policy. They investigate crime? We should decriminalize drugs and treat addiction medically. That is rational.
elohiym
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Yes, there have been many studies done.
Well, what is the upshot of the studies you have read?