Madists

[God's Truth]

God loved Abraham because he believed and obeyed God.

God said to Abraham that He would give a Savior to the world blood related to Abraham because He love Abraham and because he obeyed.

The Savior came and now only his blood matters.

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

From the Spiritual Israel Is a Doctrine of demons thread...

Mad is #1 in the list.

I was too lazy to make complete sentence.

I did well for my enemy.

Enjoy the light.

# Nice try

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

You say that those who appose the SI doctrine don't listen to Jesus?

Then why does Jesus call this the age of the Gentiles in Luke 21?

24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

This is Jesus speaking of end times because it perfectly correlates to all end times verbiage.

This correlates to Paul again referencing this in Romans 11...

He says... Until the fullness of the Gentiles have come in.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

What Meshak believes:

1) The Apostle Paul is an anti-Christ.
2) She only trusts Matthew-John and rejects the rest of the Bible.
3) She despises people who go to church.
4) She believes the Jehovah Witnesses are godly people.
5) She hates the U.S. military.
6) She rejects the Gospel that the Ascended Christ gave to Paul.
7) she disagrees with all faithful doctrine.
8) She says she doesn't KNOW if she's saved.
9) She doesn't answer any questions.

Meshak is an extremely ignorant person. She's not a member of The body of Christ.
She has an innate ability of not being willing to learn anything from anybody.
She's been banned several times. The last time she was banned, it was about a year before she was able to return.

That's Meshak in a nutshell.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

You say that those who appose the SI doctrine don't listen to Jesus?

Then why does Jesus call this the age of the Gentiles in Luke 21?

24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

This is Jesus speaking of end times because it perfectly correlates to all end times verbiage.

This correlates to Paul again referencing this in Romans 11...

He says... Until the fullness of the Gentiles have come in.

The fullness of the nations have not come into the Israel of God yet.

(not the Israel of the flesh made by men in unbelief)

LA

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Here is what we read about Noah:

"By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith" (Heb.11:7).​

You have no place for that in your theology!

Please explain.

LA

 

[God's Truth]

You say that those who appose the SI doctrine don't listen to Jesus?

Then why does Jesus call this the age of the Gentiles in Luke 21?

24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

This is Jesus speaking of end times because it perfectly correlates to all end times verbiage.

This correlates to Paul again referencing this in Romans 11...

He says... Until the fullness of the Gentiles have come in.

The temple was destroyed and there is only one way for anyone to be saved now, and that is by coming to God through Jesus Christ.

God cut off all the Jews who He did not accept, those who did not have faith. The Old Covenant was not based on faith, it was based on purification works. That means as long as someone did the purification works, they were in. God was getting ready to make a New Covenant, and the first people who were going to be saved by going through Jesus were the Jews who had faith. The Jews who had faith and belonged to God now had to go through Jesus to remain God's. They were God's and God gave them to Jesus. Jesus said he would not lose one that God gave him.

The Jews that were cut off, they were bound over to where the Gentiles were.

Now ALL, no matter your ethnicity, or your nationality...you have to come to God through Jesus.

There is not going to be ANYONE saved in a different way.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Please explain.

"By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith" (Heb.11:7).​

When Noah believed God he received the same righteousness of which Paul speaks here:

"But now the righteousness of God apart from law is made known, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Ro.3:21-24).​

When Noah believed God he received the imputed righteousness spoken of here:

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Ro.4:5).​

 

[God's Truth]

"By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith" (Heb.11:7).​

When Noah believed God he received the same righteousness of which Paul speaks here:

"But now the righteousness of God apart from law is made known, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Ro.3:21-24).​

When Noah believed God he received the imputed righteousness spoken of here:

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Ro.4:5).​

The 'work not' is about getting circumcised and the other purification works.

If you think work not means did not obey you are badly mistaken.

Noah believed God and OBEYED God, just as Abraham did.

Genesis 26:4-5 I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws."

 

[God's Truth]

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

 

[God's Truth]

Noah not only obeyed God by fearing Him, obeying Him by building an ark, but he also did not do the sin like the rest of the world.

Genesis 6:9
These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time; Noah walked with God.

Genesis 6:13
Then God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth.

Genesis 6:22
Thus Noah did; according to all that God had commanded him, so he did.

Even Noah was a preacher of righteousness before Jesus came and died for sinners. 2 Peter 2:5.

 

[Tambora]

@Tambora... you win

YAY for me!

:banana:

 

[clefty]

"By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith" (Heb.11:7).​

When Noah believed God he received the same righteousness of which Paul speaks here:

"But now the righteousness of God apart from law is made known, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Ro.3:21-24).​

When Noah believed God he received the imputed righteousness spoken of here:

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Ro.4:5).​

And then what? he just sat there? Resting as some claim they can do now 24/7?

 

[Tambora]

I see GT still cannot distinguish between Abram's unconditional covenant while uncircumcised (in which Abe was asleep and could do nothing but listen and believe), and the covenant of circumcision to Abraham in which Abe did need to obey or be cut off.

 

[Tambora]

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

Ummm, that is not saving to eternal life.
You know that, right?
It was saving them from a great tribulation of destruction that was about to occur by flood.

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

I see GT still cannot distinguish between Abram's unconditional covenant while uncircumcised (in which Abe was asleep and could do nothing but listen and believe), and the covenant of circumcision to Abraham in which Abe did need to obey or be cut off.

There's some improvement... it takes her at least 3 back and forth posts to drop the word OBEY.

#Progress

 

[Tambora]

"By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith" (Heb.11:7).​

When Noah believed God he received the same righteousness of which Paul speaks here:

"But now the righteousness of God apart from law is made known, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Ro.3:21-24).​

When Noah believed God he received the imputed righteousness spoken of here:

"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Ro.4:5).​

Amen, Jerry!
Preach that gospel!!!!!

 

[Tambora]

There's some improvement... it takes her at least 3 back and forth posts to drop the word OBEY.

#Progress

Doesn't much matter. She's lost and wants to be judged by her righteousness. So she will be.

 

[Tambora]

And then what? he just sat there? Resting as some claim they can do now 24/7?

Nobody just sits there, goof ball.
We all work, play, eat, build, etc.
What we do not do, and where our rest lies is in the fact that there is only one whose righteousness can save anyone to eternal life.

Romans 5:18 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.​

If you are relying on anyone's righteousness except the one , you are relying on the wrong person's righteousness.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

And then what? he just sat there? Resting as some claim they can do now 24/7?

Next comes our service for Him:

"For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. 10. According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon...Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire" (1 Cor.9-10,13-15).​

In order to serve the LORD we are to keep ourselves "holy":

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service" (Ro.12:1).​