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LOVE? (CAN YOU DEFINE LOVE)(SUFFERING WRONGFULLY BUT DOING IT WILLINGLY) TO PLEASE GOD (LOVE IS A CHOICE)
John 13:34
34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
Gal 1:10
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
1 Pet 4:19
19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.
I Jn 3:23
23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
1 Pet 2:19
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
1 Pet 2:21-22
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 "Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth";
II Th 3:13
13 But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary in doing good.
1 Tim 1:5-6
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
Gal 5:5-6
5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.
II Th 2:9-12
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Rev 3:17-19
17 "Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing'-- and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked--
18 "I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.
19 "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
Rev 3:15-16
15 "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.
16 "So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.
Rev 3:20
20 "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
1Thes 5:8-9
8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Eph 6:13-17
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;
1 Pet 2:19
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
1 Pet 2:21
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
Gal 5:24
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Luke 6:37-38
37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
38 "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."
Gal 5:22-25
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
1 Pet 2:19
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
1 Pet 2:21
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
I Jn 4:16
16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
I Jn 4:8
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
Rom 3:21-23
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
II Th 1:3-5
3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other,
4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure,
5 which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer;
1 Cor 13:1-13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
1 Pet 2:19
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
1 Pet 2:21
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
1 Tim 1:5
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
II Jn 1:6
6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.
1 Pet 3:17
17 For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
1 Cor 10:24
24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other's well-being.
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Gal 5:24
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
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Everyone is made up of feelings and emotions and thoughts. And the Holy Spirit only quotes verses. Now to walk according to the Holy Spirit one will have to obey every verse that enters their mind from the Holy Spirit. And to do this one will have to go against all their feelings and emotions. That will be so hard that one will find they cant do it on their own, so they will have to pray to God for help. When one finds they cant do it on their own, but after they pray they can do it. This is how the love of God is revealed to them. Then one has an experiance in walking in love. Love is not a feeling or an emotion. Love is the act of going against all your emotions and feelings-suffering wrongfully. The feeling that most are deceived into thinking is love is in reality lust or coveting. Like when someone says I would love to have a two story house, or I would love to have lots of money. In spiritual reality they are saying I covet a two story house, or I lust after money. Covet is singular, and lust is plural(emotions). Godly love is a choice we make, that we control. It doesnt control us.

Gal 5:17
17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
Acts 5:41
41 So they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name.
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Now all our emotions are unclean spirit and our unclean spirits(emotions)want us to stand up and fight for justice or law. Which is from the old testament law of sin and death. And God is going to judge us with the same measure of anything we live by. Whether it be wrath, anger, violence, compassion, love, or selfishness.

Luke 16:16
16 "The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.
Matt 11:12-13
12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
13 "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
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xx And what Christians want God to do is sacrifice the law of sin and death. And to get God to, we have to do it first. Love is an action not an emotion. God is going to judge us, and use on us the very same things that we use on others. If you dont want God standing up for His rights then dont stand up for yours while on earth. If you dont want God to give you what you deserve then dont give others what they deserve. If you want God to forgive you on judgment day then you forgive others while on earth. Because the same measure that you use on others determines the same measure that God is going to use on you. And everyone has fallen short. Being nice to someone with no emotions or affections is kindness. Being nice to someone when you have affections is friendly. Being nice to someone when you have an emotion if dislike or hate or anger is love.
 

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Luke 6:27-32
27 "But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
28 "bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you.
29 "To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either.
30 "Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not ask them back.
31 "And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise.
32 "But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.
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1 Pet 4:1

1 Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,
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Matt 5:44-48
44 "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
45 "that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 "For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
47 "And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?
48 "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
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I Jn 4:6-12
6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.
10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.
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John 15:13-14
13 "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.
14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
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1 Cor 14:1
1 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.
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xxx A Christian should put up with other peoples weaknesses(bear) because they will have to overcome their own burdens.
Gal 6:2-5
2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
4 But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
5 For each one shall bear his own load.
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XXX The only way to love is to suffer wrongfully. You want to know why there is so much suffering in the world. Its because man does not want to love one another. And who is behind them pushing them to stand up for their rights? Satan. If your not suffering wrongfully, all you have in your treasury is kindness. So you think you know what love is, you dont. Those who know have crucified their flesh with all its emotions and feelings. And have found their inner man, and crucified their outer person. Your emotions are devils, and when you resist them they will fight back and you will sufferwrongfully.


Gal 5:22-25
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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James 4:7-8
7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
8 Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
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1 Pet 5:9-10
9 Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world.
10 But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you.
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Matt 5:39-42
39 "But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.
40 "If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also.
41 "And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two.
42 "Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.
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Faith-Works-Love (By Themselves they are only principles) But together they are righteousness.

People are trying to make a conclusion out of pieces and parts. It cant be done. Faith alone won't get you to heaven. Works alone won't get you to heaven. Love alone won't get you to heaven. That is the only conclusion.

XXX If all you have to present to God is faith, YOU ARE NOTHING.
1 Cor 13:1-2

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
James 2:14
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?
James 2:17-18
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
James 2:24
24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
James 2:26
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Rom 16:26
26 but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith--
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XXX You are saved by grace through faith. But that is NOT SALVATION. Faith only works through love.

Eph 2:8
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
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Luke 6:32-33
32 "But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.
33 "And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.
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xxx Some stand on faith and some stand on works and some stand on love. They are all principles, they have to be together. So many on here are argueing just one point or part of a whole. You need to understand. Faith without works or love is dead. Works without faith or love is vanity. Love without faith or works is useless. Love is NOT AN EMOTION. Love is an action.

So many are running on blind faith. They dont even know what faith is. In reality their useing trust as faith. Their different. Your faith should be in what is written, all of it. But faith alone will NOT get you to heaven. Works alone will NOT get you to heaven. Love alone will not get you to heaven. What you need is the true faith in the Word of God. If you have the true faith in the Word of God you would try your best to do the works that are in the Word. Now love is NOT a feeling but an action. And the only way to learn what Godly love is would be to do the works. That is how you learn what love is by trying to do the works. In the Word that you have put your faith in.


Rom 5:1-4
1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance;
4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope.
Eph 2:18-20
18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone,
Eph 3:12
12 in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through faith in Him.
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xxx Do you have real faith, or blind faith?? The true faith only works through love. True love is to suffer wrongfully. Your real faith only works when you are suffering wrongfully.

Gal 5:6
6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.
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1 Tim 1:5-6
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
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Love can only truly understood by its opposite. Love needs a point of reference. The point of reference is the memory of the time before love became known. Before I was loved and did love I was an enemy and hated all that was holy.
 

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Love can only truly understood by its opposite. Love needs a point of reference. The point of reference is the memory of the time before love became known. Before I was loved and did love I was an enemy and hated all that was holy.

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I don't know what that means. Love is to suffer wrongfully but do it willingly. When one resist their emotions(unclean spirits) they will suffer at the hand of the emotion. No one asked for their emotions they inherited them from their parents.
 

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You can't know light without knowing darkness.
You can't understand heat without cold.
Therefore it's impossible to know love without first knowing the opposite. That opposite is the point of reference.
 

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1 Pet 2:19-22
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 "Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth";
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I like to say Paul's definition of love every morning 1 Cor. 13-4-8a.

"Charity suffereth long, [and] is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth"
 

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I like to say Paul's definition of love every morning 1 Cor. 13-4-8a.

"Charity suffereth long, [and] is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth"

I said
Good that is all evidence of love. And to do all those things one will have to suffer wrongfully against their emotions(unclean spirits).
 

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Good that is all evidence of love. And to do all those things one will have to suffer wrongfully against their emotions(unclean spirits).
If love is suffering wrongfully, and God is love, and God is eternal, then God will be suffering wrongfully for all eternity. Do you really believe that?

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If love is suffering wrongfully, and God is love, and God is eternal, then God will be suffering wrongfully for all eternity. Do you really believe that?

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Well everyone has fallen short of the glory of God. Everyone deserves to go to hell. But because of what Jesus done God is pouring out His love(suffering wrongfully) on us.

Rom 3:23-26
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,
26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
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Well everyone has fallen short of the glory of God. Everyone deserves to go to hell. But because of what Jesus done God is pouring out His love(suffering wrongfully) on us.

Rom 3:23-26
23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
25whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,
26to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
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Yes, you did say that. But you also defined love in that narrow way. While suffering wrongfully is a way to show love, it isn't the definition of love that God, we with Him, will be using throughout eternity.

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Yes, you did say that. But you also defined love in that narrow way. While suffering wrongfully is a way to show love, it isn't the definition of love that God, we with Him, will be using throughout eternity.

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Your running off on a tangent. Where do you come up with all eternity? We are hear now, learning what God wants us to believe now. I think maybe you should consider if you don't get this love right you might not get a chance to use some other kind in eternity.

[1Ti 1:5
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, [from] a good conscience, and [from] sincere faith,

To many people focus on tomorrow, to escape today.
[Mat 6:34
34 "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day [is] its own trouble.
 

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Your running off on a tangent. Where do you come up with all eternity? We are hear now, learning what God wants us to believe now. I think maybe you should consider if you don't get this love right you might not get a chance to use some other kind in eternity.

[1Ti 1:5
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, [from] a good conscience, and [from] sincere faith,

To many people focus on tomorrow, to escape today.
[Mat 6:34
34 "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day [is] its own trouble.

How can you say this is a tangent? Your thread is "Love Defined". And unless love ceases (1 Cor 13:8 says it doesn't), then your definition of "love" must apply to all eternity.

Too many people focus on what is temporal, rather than what is eternal. 2 Cor 4:18 "So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." Paul's statement followed this: "For our light and temporary affliction is producing for us an eternal glory that far outweighs our troubles." The knowledge that affliction is not permanent is Paul's message. But you have defined love in such a way that affliction must be permanent, eternal. Of what hope is that?

Jesus' message was the same as Paul's--that we should not be so concerned about our current comforts or afflictions--as God will give us what we need.
 

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How can you say this is a tangent? Your thread is "Love Defined". And unless love ceases (1 Cor 13:8 says it doesn't), then your definition of "love" must apply to all eternity.

Too many people focus on what is temporal, rather than what is eternal. 2 Cor 4:18 "So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." Paul's statement followed this: "For our light and temporary affliction is producing for us an eternal glory that far outweighs our troubles." The knowledge that affliction is not permanent is Paul's message. But you have defined love in such a way that affliction must be permanent, eternal. Of what hope is that?

Jesus' message was the same as Paul's--that we should not be so concerned about our current comforts or afflictions--as God will give us what we need.

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ROFLOL Have you read my revelation on intellectual idiots??


To many people focus on tomorrow, to escape today.

[Mat 6:34
34 "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day [is] its own trouble.

Look at 1Co 13-8 Heaven is perfect. All we can do now is try to get there. And when we get there all your carnal knowledge will vanish away. So any knowledge you have about eternity isn't going to do you any good now. But learning to avoid foolish questions now will do you good.

[1Co 13:8-10
8 Love never fails. But whether [there are] prophecies, they will fail; whether [there are] tongues, they will cease; whether [there is] knowledge, it will vanish away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
 
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I said
ROFLOL Have you read my revelation on intellectual idiots??


To many people focus on tomorrow, to escape today.

[Mat 6:34
34 "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day [is] its own trouble.

Look at 1Co 13-8 Heaven is perfect. All we can do now is try to get there. And when we get there all your carnal knowledge will vanish away. So any knowledge you have about eternity isn't going to do you any good now. But learning to avoid foolish questions now will do you good.

[1Co 13:8-10
8 Love never fails. But whether [there are] prophecies, they will fail; whether [there are] tongues, they will cease; whether [there is] knowledge, it will vanish away.
9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
You're repeating yourself. I guess that's why you always say "I said" at the beginning of your posts.

But you haven't addressed my comment. When you define love as suffering unjustly, you don't allow for the real definition of love, which does not have to include suffering at all. Your scriptures don't address it, nor do your words. If my comment makes you ROFLOL, then have a serious mental block to any criticism.

If you can't take just criticism, I would be amazed if you could take unjust criticism. If you can't take unjust criticism, then it seems like you wouldn't be able to take unjust suffering. Therefore, even by your definition, you aren't loving. Your posts prove it--assuming YOUR definition. Maybe you should work on that.

But you may have weightier issues to worry about. How much "trying to get there" will it take you to get to heaven? Are you relying on your own strength? If so, then Christ's love (displayed, but not defined, by His unjust suffering for us) has been made of no effect.
 

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You're repeating yourself. I guess that's why you always say "I said" at the beginning of your posts.

But you haven't addressed my comment. When you define love as suffering unjustly, you don't allow for the real definition of love, which does not have to include suffering at all. Your scriptures don't address it, nor do your words. If my comment makes you ROFLOL, then have a serious mental block to any criticism.

If you can't take just criticism, I would be amazed if you could take unjust criticism. If you can't take unjust criticism, then it seems like you wouldn't be able to take unjust suffering. Therefore, even by your definition, you aren't loving. Your posts prove it--assuming YOUR definition. Maybe you should work on that.

But you may have weightier issues to worry about. How much "trying to get there" will it take you to get to heaven? Are you relying on your own strength? If so, then Christ's love (displayed, but not defined, by His unjust suffering for us) has been made of no effect.

I said
ROFLOL It looks like I struck a nerve in you. All that carnal camouflage. And cover up. I'm showing people what they must do now. Your using the future to escape the present. Your looking at the Word of God intellectually. That is the milk understanding. I'm sharing the meat understanding. It appears to be over your head. The truth offends lots of people.

James 3:1-2
1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
(KJV)
 

Derf

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I said
ROFLOL It looks like I struck a nerve in you. All that carnal camouflage. And cover up. I'm showing people what they must do now. Your using the future to escape the present. Your looking at the Word of God intellectually. That is the milk understanding. I'm sharing the meat understanding. It appears to be over your head. The truth offends lots of people.

James 3:1-2
1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
(KJV)

If so, then you are taking on extra condemnation, according to your James 3:1 quote.

Personally, I just think you have very little real or true to say. If you are posting falsehoods, which you are by defining love as you have, then I have a responsibility to point it out to you. Your definition of love is false, as a definition. As a characteristic of love, it certainly applies.
 

Squeaky

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If so, then you are taking on extra condemnation, according to your James 3:1 quote.

Personally, I just think you have very little real or true to say. If you are posting falsehoods, which you are by defining love as you have, then I have a responsibility to point it out to you. Your definition of love is false, as a definition. As a characteristic of love, it certainly applies.

I said
I know where I got the revelations and from whom I got them. And I welcome your opinion. Mainly because your own opinion proves that I am right. I have had over 2000 of these revelations in the past 25 years. And no one has ever been able to prove one of them wrong with scripture. A lot have tried to do it carnally, but that only proves they don't know the Holy Spirit. Which is more proof that these revelations are true.

[Jhn 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

[2Co 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing [is] God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.


which is evidence that I got to demonstrate the Holy Spirit again. And I done it with the Word of God , not human wisdom. This is my joy in the world, demonstrating the Holy Spirit.

[1Co 2:4-5
4 And my speech and my preaching [were] not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
 

Derf

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I said
I know where I got the revelations and from whom I got them. And I welcome your opinion. Mainly because your own opinion proves that I am right. I have had over 2000 of these revelations in the past 25 years. And no one has ever been able to prove one of them wrong with scripture. A lot have tried to do it carnally, but that only proves they don't know the Holy Spirit. Which is more proof that these revelations are true.

Now it's my turn to ROFLOL. Even the Holy Spirit couldn't disprove your "revelations". I gave you scripture that proved your "revelations" to be false, or at least inconsistent (which means false some of the time), but I guess the Holy Spirit is less knowledgeable about that stuff than you are.

PS. Do you stutter in your speech?
 
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