With my word of God judo chops......
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With my word of God judo chops......
Epoisses
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The only way to get grace from Moses is to realize that sinners can never keep the law no matter how hard they try. You haven't learned the lesson.
Epoisses
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You're not qualified GED ranger!
Epoisses
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No one has refuted or even tried to refute any of my posts! LOL
Interplanner
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Actually it's "fruit" of the Spirit, suggesting they are not things from as much conscious, calculating effort as "works."
Epoisses
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Paul calls them fruit and Jesus and James call them works but they are all the same.
I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Rev. 2:19
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. Gal. 5:22
Ben Masada
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The flash, not the spirit is the side that suffers the pains as a result of the consequences of a broken Law. So, if it is up to me to choose the way I should walk, I'll go according to the Law and forever thank HaShem for His grace to have granted us with the Law. No wonder Jesus taught: Listen to "Moses" aka the Law. (Luke 16:29-31)
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Epoisses
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Paul sent people to the law! The law reveals sin and a sinner needs a savior. Do you see how that works?
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Rom. 3:21-24
The righteousness of Christ is separate and distinct from the law.
Ben, I have a few questions for you. Why did you choose to spend time on a Christian forum? Why not a Jewish forum? Do you have some sort of agenda to "proselytize?" Do you enjoy arguing/confrontation? What motivates you?
Ben Masada
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No, there were not. You are confusing the Nazarenes with Gentiles. The Nazarenes, though converts from the Gentiles, would become Jewish because the Sect of the Nazarenes was also known as the "New Way" for having become the most recent Sect of Judaism. Paul did not have what it took to raise a church from scratch. His method was the same as the one of the cuckoo bird that lays his eggs into the nests of small birds and eventually take over the nests. All his life as a missionary since Damascus and all the way to Rome, he never left the Jews in peace as if Gentiles were to be found in the Synagogues of the Jews. (Acts 9:1,2 and 28:17)
That's quite a conclusion coming from a guy who lacks the ability to "Rightly Divide" the Bible.
Ben Masada
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Why I chose a Christian forum and not a Jewish one is because there is no learning in the chit-chattering of common beliefs but in controversy. Do you understand what I mean? What can I learning from verbal juggling with people who already believe as I do? That's the first reason. The second is because the founder of Christianity aka Paul picked up a Jew to vandalize his Faith which was Judaism which just happened to be the same as mine. Bottom line, some one had to stand for the gospel of Jesus which was the Tanach and that's why I am here.
Explain the above?
Ben Masada
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See what I mean by vandalism of Judaism aka the Law? No, Paul sent no one to the Law. The opposite is rather true that he released his followers from the Law claiming that it had ended with the death Jesus by being abolished on the cross. (Romans 7:6; 10:4; Ephesians 2:15; etc) That's Replacement Theology and, etc because it goes throughout the NT. Hence, it became known as the gospel of Paul.
Ben Masada
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Ben Masada
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I think you have forgotten that Moses has also died. So, there is no way to get grace from him. Since we are humans and indeed, "There has never been a man upon earth to have done only good and never sinned," no big deal, (Ecclesiastes 7:20) by the grace of HaShem every time we need to set thing right with the Lord so that our sins from scarlet red become as white as snow, all we need is to repent and to return to the obedience of God's Law.(Isaiah 1:18,19)
Epoisses
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He didn't send people to the law to keep it he merely pointed out that by the law comes the knowledge of sin Rom. 3:20. Those that sent people to the law to try and get righteousness out of it were the Judaizers. They were condemned by Peter and Paul. Peter preached grace by the way and so did John and so did James in fact all the apostles preached grace.