John Calvin's Nazi God.

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I was not referring to the Lord of the Bible. I am referring to your Lord, you know, the Calvinist one that damns people to hell before they are born.

Your god is insane and cruel for condemning people He tells to do this and that and if they do they go to hell. Your god is worse than the Calvinists' fake god.
 

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I am through with you. A bitter and angry man. Wiping the dust.

You are not able to receive truth because you are void of the Holy Spirit.

I come to you with the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19 and you get mad about it.
 

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Your god is insane and cruel for condemning people He tells to do this and that and if they do they go to hell. Your god is worse than the Calvinists' fake god.

Your God is mot much better than the Calvinist God.

Your God is a taskmaster, ready to crack you on your back with his whip if you fail.
 

God's Truth

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Your God is mot much better than the Calvinist God.

Your God is a taskmaster, ready to crack you on your back with his whip if you fail.

No, He is not doing that. That is what Satan wants you to say. Obeying Jesus' beautiful powerful words is good, it is life giving.
 

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We may note to the bold above, that while Calvinism assures itself by a concept of the U, L, I and P of its formula...it implodes upon itself rendering 'insecurity' really, since one can never really KNOW if one is saved or lost, except for some consistency in the life or actions of the believer himself, which may swing from one end of the pendulum to the other, since a soul may backslide, choose another life-path or even religious tradition, so that one can go outside of the ruling context of TULIP at any moment :) - so all you have is a religious formula, a propositional assumption, which has 'conditional' elements in it, even while it assumes assurance of the saved. IT STILL DEPENDS ON MANS ACTIONS, his conditional state as to whether God's grace is working in that persons life,....its still about 'synergestic' cooperation, argue that til blue in the face if you like. All 'covenants' are the cooperative effort and trust of 2 persons or parties, NOT the total doing of just one of the parties, to which there would not even be a 'covenant' existing, neither operative.

Good post

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Not only did Jesus teach the Old Testament law, he elevated it and spiritualized it. The law now searches the desires and the intent of the heart, Hebrews 4:12. To be under it is to be under condemnation.

Jesus taught the new law, it is the old law with some changes. See Hebrews 7:12
 

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Jesus taught the new law, it is the old law with some changes. See Hebrews 7:12

It is not a new law. It is the Law of Moses only elevated and spiritualized. Christians are not under it, nor are they subject to it. To be under it or subject to it is to be under condemnation.
 

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It is not a new law. It is the Law of Moses only elevated and spiritualized. Christians are not under it, nor are they subject to it. To be under it or subject to it is to be under condemnation.

You are a dishonest person.

The Bible says there are changes to the old law and it makes a new law.

You are an enemy of the truth. See Hebrews 7:12.
 

Robert Pate

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You are a dishonest person.

The Bible says there are changes to the old law and it makes a new law.

You are an enemy of the truth. See Hebrews 7:12.


The change of the law is that it has been abolished, but only for the Christian. Its gone, Ephesians 2:15. The new way to live is not by rules, laws or religion. The new way to live is by faith, Paul said, "The Just Shall Live By Faith" Romans 1:16. Living by rules, law and religion is not living by faith. Its living by the flesh. Jesus fulfilled the law and abolished it because it was contrary to us, no one could do it or keep it, Colossian 2:14.
 
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