Jesus: The end and the fulfillment of the Old Testament
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As I predicted-evasion, spin, deceit.
Answer your own argument, demonic drunk.
1 Timothy 1 KJV
9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Deceiver Pate, on record, time, after time after time, asserted that the law was made for sinners, not Christians, citing 1 Timothy 1:9 KJV, accusing me/others of wanting to "under the law," which, in his dementia induced way of "thinking," means automatic judgment as sinners.
"Out of the other side" of his mouth, he has also, on record, in various threads, denied that Christians are considered "saints," asserting that Christians are sinners, including himself. There is no "in between," Pate. The bible either pegs you a saint/saved/justified/child of God, or a sinner/lost/child of the devil, despite your Catholic "Hail Mary's" to the contrary.
So, POPE Pate, tell all of TOL, just how you can consider yourself a sinner, meaning you sin, if there is no law, since, according to you, it was abolished, to define what sin is.
And, since you are a sinner, by your own words, you are under the law, per your own 1 Timothy 1:9 "argument."
He won't.
No, your problem is that TOL has caught your deception, as I picked your satanic trash apart, as you just posted irrelevant misdirection, and explains why you will not touch:
Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for "the born again Christian." If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for the lost. If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Let's go, Pate. You made the "argument." Explain it, w/o just posting verses, in isolation, w/o expounding on their meaning.
Watch, again, the evasion, the changing of the subject, side stepping, sound bytes, misdirection toward me, with perhaps another racial slur......w/o addressing my questions, based upon his premise in this thread, and all the other "the law no longer exists, the OT no longer exists" duplicate threads he spams.
Go ahead, Pate. Address my questions.
You won't-he has punted for 2 months.
Reduced to spam, sound bytes.
No, your problem is that TOL has caught your deception, as I picked your satanic trash apart, as you just posted irrelevant misdirection, and explains why you will not touch:
Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for "the born again Christian." If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for the lost. If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Let's go, Pate. You made the "argument." Explain it, w/o just posting verses, in isolation, w/o expounding on their meaning.
Watch, again, the evasion, the changing of the subject, side stepping, sound bytes, misdirection toward me, with perhaps another racial slur......w/o addressing my questions, based upon his premise in this thread, and all the other "the law no longer exists, the OT no longer exists" duplicate threads he spams.
Go ahead, Pate. Address my questions.
You won't-he has punted for 2 months.
No, you do, deceiver, as you assert that you are a sinner.
As I predicted-evasion, spin, deceit.
Answer your own argument, demonic drunk.
1 Timothy 1 KJV
9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
Deceiver Pate, on record, time, after time after time, asserted that the law was made for sinners, not Christians, citing 1 Timothy 1:9 KJV, accusing me/others of wanting to "under the law," which, in his dementia induced way of "thinking," means automatic judgment as sinners.
"Out of the other side" of his mouth, he has also, on record, in various threads, denied that Christians are considered "saints," asserting that Christians are sinners, including himself. There is no "in between," Pate. The bible either pegs you a saint/saved/justified/child of God, or a sinner/lost/child of the devil, despite your Catholic "Hail Mary's" to the contrary.
So, POPE Pate, tell all of TOL, just how you can consider yourself a sinner, meaning you sin, if there is no law, since, according to you, it was abolished, to define what sin is.
And, since you are a sinner, by your own words, you are under the law, per your own 1 Timothy 1:9 "argument."
He won't.
So, POPE Pate, tell all of TOL, just how you can consider yourself a sinner, meaning you sin, if there is no law, since, according to you, it was abolished, to define what sin is.
What law did you break, that created a sin/transgression on your part? How could that be-you say that there is no law, so there can be no sin/transgression. That is your entire satanic argument as to why "Jesus" had to abolish the lsaw, instead of dying for our sins, for breaking the perfect, holy, just, good, spiritual law of God.
Go ahead and spin, provide another one of your demonic, made up, intoxicated, irrational, "responses."
And, since you are a sinner, by your own words, you are under the law, per your own 1 Timothy 1:9 "argument."
Spiritually, I am perfect and complete in Christ, Ephesians 2:6.
Physically, I am the chief of sinners, 1 Timothy 1:15
That is probably beyond your understanding.
As I predicted, "That is probably beyond your understanding...physically I am a sinner....spiritually I am not a sinner" made up, intoxicated, demonic "logic." There is no "in between," liar, as you are either righteous/a saint, in God's eyes, or a sinner, which, by definition, is one who sins.
Answer, Pate, you wicked deceiver:
So, POPE Pate, tell all of TOL, just how you can consider yourself a sinner, meaning you sin, if there is no law, since, according to you, it was abolished, to define what sin is.
What law did you break, that created a sin/transgression on your part? How could that be-you say that there is no law, so there can be no sin/transgression. That is your entire satanic argument as to why "Jesus" had to abolish the lsaw, instead of dying for our sins, for breaking the perfect, holy, just, good, spiritual law of God.
Go ahead and spin, provide another one of your demonic, made up, intoxicated, irrational, "responses."
And, since you are a sinner, by your own words, you are under the law, per your own 1 Timothy 1:9 "argument."
And stuff your satanic interpretation of 1 Timothy 1:15 KJV, wolf, as I/others, have refuted your made up explanation, deceitful "post one verse in isolation" devil tactic, spam.
No, deceiver, you've been shown the context of Paul's reference to "chief sinner," by me, over 20 people on TOL, but you continue, as others have pointed out, your deceptive, satanic trick of posting verses in isolation, w/o the context, ignoring preceding/following verses, as you delete them, you wicked poser.
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Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for "the born again Christian." If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for the lost. If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Let's go, Pate. You made the "argument." Explain it, w/o just posting verses, in isolation, w/o expounding on their meaning.
Watch, again, the evasion, the changing of the subject, side stepping, sound bytes, misdirection toward me, with perhaps another racial slur......w/o addressing my questions, based upon his premise in this thread, and all the other "the law no longer exists, the OT no longer exists" duplicate threads he spams.
Go ahead, Pate. Address my questions.
You won't-he has punted for 2 months.
Nope, you didn't get it. You don't understand spiritual things because you don't have the Holy Spirit.
Your purpose on this Forum is to be TOL's hitman.
Wicked liar, as I exposed you for the child of devil that you are.
Answer your own "argument," Pope Pate-
Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for "the born again Christian." If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for the lost. If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Let's go, Pate. You made the "argument." Explain it, w/o just posting verses, in isolation, w/o expounding on their meaning.
Watch, again, the evasion, the changing of the subject, side stepping, sound bytes, misdirection toward me, with perhaps another racial slur......w/o addressing my questions, based upon his premise in this thread, and all the other "the law no longer exists, the OT no longer exists" duplicate threads he spams.
Go ahead, Pate. Address my questions.
You won't-he has punted for 2 months.
Answer, Pate, you wicked deceiver:
So, POPE Pate, tell all of TOL, just how you can consider yourself a sinner, meaning you sin, if there is no law, since, according to you, it was abolished, to define what sin is.
What law did you break, that created a sin/transgression on your part? How could that be-you say that there is no law, so there can be no sin/transgression. That is your entire satanic argument as to why "Jesus" had to abolish the lsaw, instead of dying for our sins, for breaking the perfect, holy, just, good, spiritual law of God.
Go ahead and spin, provide another one of your demonic, made up, intoxicated, irrational, "responses."
And, since you are a sinner, by your own words, you are under the law, per your own 1 Timothy 1:9 "argument."
And stuff your satanic interpretation of 1 Timothy 1:15 KJV, wolf, as I/others, have refuted your made up explanation, deceitful "post one verse in isolation" devil tactic, spam.
The interpretation of 1 Timothy 1:9 and 1 Timothy 1:15 is not mine, its Paul's.
Evasion, non answer.Answer, Pate, you wicked deceiver:
So, POPE Pate, tell all of TOL, just how you can consider yourself a sinner, meaning you sin, if there is no law, since, according to you, it was abolished, to define what sin is.
What law did you break, that created a sin/transgression on your part? How could that be-you say that there is no law, so there can be no sin/transgression. That is your entire satanic argument as to why "Jesus" had to abolish the lsaw, instead of dying for our sins, for breaking the perfect, holy, just, good, spiritual law of God.
Go ahead and spin, provide another one of your demonic, made up, intoxicated, irrational, "responses."
And, since you are a sinner, by your own words, you are under the law, per your own 1 Timothy 1:9 "argument."
And stuff your satanic interpretation of 1 Timothy 1:15 KJV, wolf, as I/others, have refuted your made up explanation, deceitful "post one verse in isolation" devil tactic, spam.
You are not capable of understanding or interpreting scripture because you are void of the Holy Spirit. You are what the Bible refers to as a "Natural man" 1 Corinthians 2:14.
As I predicted-"you cannot understand...." satanic sidestep, as his daddy devil has a gag order in place, and I picked him apart.
Wicked liar, as I exposed you for the child of devil that you are.
Answer your own "argument," Pope Pate-
Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for "the born again Christian." If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Tell all of TOL, Pope Pate, if, for eg., stealing, murder is a sin,for the lost. If it is, why? If it is not, tell us why not.
Let's go, Pate. You made the "argument." Explain it, w/o just posting verses, in isolation, w/o expounding on their meaning.
Watch, again, the evasion, the changing of the subject, side stepping, sound bytes, misdirection toward me, with perhaps another racial slur......w/o addressing my questions, based upon his premise in this thread, and all the other "the law no longer exists, the OT no longer exists" duplicate threads he spams.
Go ahead, Pate. Address my questions.
You won't-he has punted for 2 months.
So, POPE Pate, tell all of TOL, just how you can consider yourself a sinner, meaning you sin, if there is no law, since, according to you, it was abolished, to define what sin is.
What law did you break, that created a sin/transgression on your part? How could that be-you say that there is no law, so there can be no sin/transgression. That is your entire satanic argument as to why "Jesus" had to abolish the lsaw, instead of dying for our sins, for breaking the perfect, holy, just, good, spiritual law of God.
Go ahead and spin, provide another one of your demonic, made up, intoxicated, irrational, "responses."
And, since you are a sinner, by your own words, you are under the law, per your own 1 Timothy 1:9 "argument."
And stuff your satanic interpretation of 1 Timothy 1:15 KJV, wolf, as I/others, have refuted your made up explanation, deceitful "post one verse in isolation" devil tactic, spam.
I never did say that Jesus did not die for our sins. You are the one that said that, not me. You say things that are not true and then you claim that I said them.
You have a spirit, but it is not of God, 1 John 4:1.
You are full of bitterness and hatred, it is not of God when you call Christians names. Christians do not persecute other Christians.
The moderators of this Forum are just as guilty as you are.
It is past my nap time.
Yes some reject we are to wish to serve without added reward even.
Luke 17:7-10
(7) And which of you, having a servant plowing or tending sheep, will say to him when he has come in from the field, 'Come at once and sit down to eat'? (8) But will he not rather say to him, 'Prepare something for my supper, and gird yourself and serve me till I have eaten and drunk, and afterward you will eat and drink'? (9) Does he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I think not. (10) So likewise you, when you have done all those things which you are commanded, say, 'We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do.'"
Here are they that keep the commandments of Yah and the faith OF Yahushua
Yes you did, and do assert that "Jesus" did not die for our sins-on record.
Devil child Pate asserts, on record, that the Saviour did not die for our sin debt/IOU, paying our debt, in our place, as the solution, and, instead, asserts, on record, that this "Jesus" is an incompetent, impotent fool,UNABLE TO DIE FOR ALL OF OUR SINS, future sins, as is God the Father, for even sending Him to die, as devil child Pate's "solution" to the sin/sins problem, is to eliminate the law that defines the sin/transgression, thus, "presto," there is no offense/transgression/sin for which to die, instead of the Saviour dying for our future sin debt. Do you all "get that," TOL audience? That, in simple terms, is this satanist "argument," breaking it down. Again, Pate asserts that the solution to the sin/sins issue, is not that the Saviour died for our sin debt in the future, which is contrary to us, for breaking the LORD God's perfect,good, holy,just, spiritual law, and a reflection of His character to both the saved and lost, and not that we are the problem, but the problem is with the law, as it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not spiritual, as laws against murder, rape, lying, stealing......are all contrary to us, so, instead of the Saviour dying in our place, to satisfy the debt/IOU, abolish the law, so that there is no offense/transgression/sin for which He should die, and thus abolish the Saviour's work, as Pate asserts that the Saviour DID NOT DIE FOR OUR FUTURE SINS, SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DIE, for our future sins/sin debt. Thus, Pate asserts he died in vain, for nothing, as his "solution" is to abolish/eliminate/destroy/make void the law, so that there is no future sin/transgression/offense, and associated/corresponding wage/sin debt to be paid for. Again-Pate-Christ died in vain.
Mayor STP:"It's not that complicated."
Pate argues that the solution to the sins issue, is not Christ dying for our sins, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, to blot out/wipe out/pay for the sin debt, both past/future, "man's IOU" for breaking the good, holy, spiritual law of God, per Paul, in Romans 7, which Paul asserts is not void, as the problem is not with man, but with the God's law, as he asserts that it is not perfect, it is not good, it is not holy, it is not just, it is not spiritual, as it is the law, that is contrary/against us, according to Pate, those troublesome prohibitions against murder, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery, lying......and not the sin debt/IOU that is contrary to/against us; Again, Pate denies that the sin debt/IOU is contrary/ against us, as He asserts that God's laws against murder, lying, rape, sodomy, theft, adultery,......................................are contrary/against us, are not for our benefit, are not good, not holy, not spiritual; His "solution" is for the LORD God to destroy/abolish/make void the law, so there is no offense to break, in the future, not Christ dying for our sins, He paying the debt/IOU for us, in our place.
Thus, Pate, on record, asserts that Christ died in vain, there was no reason to die, as He did not need to die to pay our IOU/sin debt, as all the LORD God had to do, was destroy/abolish/make void/eliminate the law, so there would not be a sin debt/IOU. Thus, he then,like the devil attempts to ...
Delete "the handwriting of ordinances" of Colossians 2:14 KJV, replacing it with "law/ordinances," thus perverting, corrupting the scriptures, making it look like Paul says that Christ blotted out, made void, the law/ordinances, making it look like Paul is saying that the law/ordinances are contrary/against us, not for our benefit, instead of Paul saying that the sin debt/IOU was blotted out, as that is what is contrary to us, against us, as Paul asserts that the law is perfect, good, holy, just, spiritual, not void, in Romans 11, and the problem is with man, and the sin debt/IOU for breaking a good, holy, spiritual law, not the law itself.
Pate says the opposite, asserting that the problem is with the law, as it is not prefect/good/holy/spiritual,as he asserts that it causes us to sin, as it is sin, and the problem is not with man/him, and he asserts that the solution is to assert that Christ came to destroy/abolish/blot out the law, not to die for man's breaking the good, holy, spiritual, law of God.
The "secular" example of Pate's "reasoning::
Pate gets a speeding ticket. He goes to court, and, in front of the judge...
Pate:Judge, I demand that you abolish/destroy the law against speeding. It is not a good law, because I/others cannot keep it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This law is not for my benefit, or society's-it is contrary to/against me/society!!!!!!!!!! Abolish it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And, if you do not abolish it, it automatically condemns me, judges me, as guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The judge: No, the laws are good, and are for everyone's benefit, including yours. They are not against you, are not contrary to you, they are not against society, they are not contrary to society, -they stand. The problem is with you/others breaking these good laws, and the debt you/others must pay for these offenses(sins) you committed. That is what is contrary to/against you/others. Pay the fine. The law cannot condemn you, just because it is in place.
Pate: No!!!!! Abolish the law!!!!!!!
The judge: Either pay the fine, or go to jail-the law stands.
Pate: No!!!!The laws are not good-they are the problem, not me!!!!
Benevolent, gracious judge: Tell you what, Pate. Someone just paid your fine/debt/IOU(sin, offense, transgression) on your behalf. Justice is served. You are free to go(Christ died for our sins....paying the sin debt, IOU)
Pate: No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That person need not have paid my fine/debt!!!!!(Christ need not die to pay the sin debt/IOU). The solution is to abolish, destroy, make void, the laws against speeding(fill in the blank), so that we will not have to "do" these laws, obey them, and the solution is not the fine being satisfied(Christ-propitiation)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Benevolent, gracious judge: Lock up this man for dementia, contempt of court, lunacy-put him in a straight jacket.
And now, in wickedness, attempt to delete Genesis-John. You will lose, demon:
Matthew 24:35 KJV Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
1 Peter KJV
25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.