Jesus said, "And Few There Be That Find It" Matthew 7:14

Tambora

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Violence is against God's will,
No it's not.

so even though there are so many wars in the OT,
Yep, there were many.
Many of which God Himself commanded His people to participate in order to destroy their enemies.

it should not be used to justify our actively endorsing or joining the military.
God commanded Israel to have an army.

And there is no place that Jesus told anyone not to be a soldier or be in the military.
That's your own pet peeve, not Jesus'.
 

Tambora

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There are consequences to sin.

David paid dearly for his sinful mistakes.
Sure, but stripping him of his kingship due to murder and adultery was not one of the consequences.

So, to suggest that an adulterer should never be allowed to be president is a bit iffy.
Just saying that it was not a deal breaker with God.
 

Nanja

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There are consequences to sin.

David paid dearly for his sinful mistakes.


As with all the Elect of God, David was Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and without blame before Him in Love Eph. 1:4-5; Rom. 8:33. No sin was ever imputed to Him Rom. 4:8 but was laid on His Surety Heb. 7:22 Christ Jesus in his behalf Is. 53:6.

However, whom the Lord Loves He does chasten:

Heb. 12:6-8
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

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Robert Pate

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As with all the Elect of God, David was Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and without blame before Him in Love Eph. 1:4-5; Rom. 8:33. No sin was ever imputed to Him Rom. 4:8 but was laid on His Surety Heb. 7:22 Christ Jesus in his behalf Is. 53:6.

However, whom the Lord Loves He does chasten:

Heb. 12:6-8
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

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You don't understand Ephesians 1:4.

"He has chosen us in him before the foundation of the world"

Who is the "US"? The us is the whole human race. God is no respecter of persons, Acts 10:34.

Jesus is the corporate head of the human race. He is the first born of all of creation, Colossians 1:15.

God does NOTHING outside of his Son Jesus Christ. All things are done by him and through him, Colossians 1:16.

You have not been predestinated.
 

Nanja

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You don't understand Ephesians 1:4.

"He has chosen us in him before the foundation of the world"

Who is the "US"? The us is the whole human race. God is no respecter of persons, Acts 10:34.

Jesus is the corporate head of the human race. He is the first born of all of creation, Colossians 1:15.

God does NOTHING outside of his Son Jesus Christ. All things are done by him and through him, Colossians 1:16.

You have not been predestinated.



Surely you are very consistent, Pate: Consistently in error, and an Enemy of the True Gospel of Christ.

Paul addressed the Saints of God Eph. 1:1, the Seed of Christ Gal. 3:16, which is comprised of only a remnant of all humanity which shall be Saved Rom. 11:5.

For many are the seed of the devil Mat. 13:38-39 which have been condemned to the lake of fire Mat. 25:41; Rev. 21:8; Jude 1:4!


Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?


So don't worry yourself about my eternal destiny.

But be concerned for yourself!

~~~~~
 

Robert Pate

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Surely you are very consistent, Pate: Consistently in error, and an Enemy of the True Gospel of Christ.

Paul addressed the Saints of God Eph. 1:1, the Seed of Christ Gal. 3:16, which is comprised of only a remnant of all humanity which shall be Saved Rom. 11:5.

For many are the seed of the devil Mat. 13:38-39 which have been condemned to the lake of fire Mat. 25:41; Rev. 21:8; Jude 1:4!


Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?


So don't worry yourself about my eternal destiny.

But be concerned for yourself!

~~~~~

Calvinism is not the Gospel. If anything Calvinism is anti-Gospel and anti- Christ.

You are lost because you have never called on Christ to save you, Romans 10:13.

You do not have the Holy Spirit because you cannot receive truth.
 

Tambora

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Jesus did not kill anyone because He does not endorse violent act.
Jesus does not teach anything in opposition of His Father.
God does endorse violence, many many many times.
 
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