keypurr
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What is the difference between God and a creation?
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Jesus Christ is God Almighty, Jehovah
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Jerry Shugart
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Yes, while on the earth the Lord Jesus was the flesh son of Mary. And it was He who suffered in the flesh. So it is He who is the "Christ" and not some imaginary "spirit son":
"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh..." (1 Pet.4:1).
It is the Lord Jesus who suffered in the flesh so the reference to "Christ" in this verse has to be referring to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Not some fictional "spirit son."
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keypurr
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Your only part right friend. You can not discard scripture because you don't want to see it. God created his express image and created everything through it. Study it from a different viewpoint Jerry, I might be right. I might have been given this to share.
I pray that I am not working for Satan. I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ. I Sincerly believe he has blessed me with truth after all these years of study. However you feel you will always a brother in Christ to me for I see you love him too.
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marhig
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He's not an imaginary spirit son, he is the Christ the son of the living God and he is a spirit, the same as his father God, who is a spirit also.
Galatians 4
And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
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Jerry Shugart
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What specifically is it I said about what you said here is only part right?:
Yes, while on the earth the Lord Jesus was the flesh son of Mary. And it was He who suffered in the flesh. So it is He who is the "Christ" and not some imaginary "spirit son":
"Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh..." (1 Pet.4:1).
It is the Lord Jesus who suffered in the flesh so the reference to "Christ" in this verse has to be referring to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Not some fictional "spirit son."
Jerry Shugart
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Then prove what I said is in error.
Jerry Shugart
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Of course He did. Those who heard Him in the following passage knew that He was claiming to be God and that is why they tried to kill Him:
"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by" (Jn.8:58-59).
They took up stones to cast at Him because He was claiming to be God, the great Ï AM":
"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you" (Ex.3:14).
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The Word became flesh. John 1. The Word was God.Keypurr said:
If you are saying that Jesus in the flesh, was not at creation, we agree.*Keypurr said:
However Scripture tells us "For by Him [Jesus the Son] all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him "(Colossians 1:16).
If ALL things were created by the Son, then either you believe He created Himself.... or that He was not created.*
Jerry Shugart
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Of course He did. Those who heard Him in the following passage knew that He was claiming to be God and that is why they tried to kill Him:
"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by" (Jn.8:58-59).
They took up stones to cast at Him because He was claiming to be God, the great Ï AM":
"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you" (Ex.3:14).
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The heretics are really coming out of the wood-work for you Jerry.
It's the same old, same old.
6days
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How are we different from God?Jamie said:
We are not omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient nor are we Holy. We are not the way, the truth nor are we the life. We are not unchangeable. We don't have the wisdom to understand His ways.*
We still live in the flesh, and have "weakness".... continue reading Rom. 8*Jamie said:
Jerry Shugart
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EXACTLY!
Is that because God is immortal?
Was this power not a gift?
Why would God command the angels to worship Christ if Christ was God?
The mystery of Godliness is how God has united with a man who God raised up, NOT how God became a man, or that two eternal Gods inhabited eternity.
Why does the Bible say that God was in Christ, if Christ was God?
Can God die?
Can God be tempted?
Did God have to learn wisdom?
Clearly your theories deny scripture.
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We are not yet born of the Spirit, only begotten.
keypurr
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I guess you would need to ask the giver about that.
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I would suggest God gave Jesus that gift.
Jesus said, "And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, 'All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.'" (Matthew 28:18)
Jerry Shugart
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Let us look what is said about the Lord Jesus in the book of Hebrews. First, the author of that book believed that the Lord Jesus is God:
"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom" (Heb.1:8).
Then the author said that the Lord Jesus was made like us in all things:
"Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people" (Heb.2:17).
So the author of Hebrews believed that the Lord Jesus is God who was made like us in every way. And since He was made like us in every way then it is obvious that He could die physically.
Jerry Shugart
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The Apostle John wrote those words about "eternal life" and the Lord Jesus and he believed that the Lord is God:
"And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life" (1 Jn.5:20).
Thomas, who knew the Lord Jesus, certainly believed that He is God, as witnessed by the following words that He spoke to Him:
"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God" (Jn.20:28).