James 1:1 refutes MAD

[Jerry Shugart]

I refuted you so badly you could never recover or save face. How you still have the courage to post is beyond me.

You are delusional sonny boy!

You are so blind you quote a verse which speaks of a "testament" and according to you it is referring to a "covenant."

You cannot even understand simple English and your spiritual I.Q. is practically non-existent or else you would know that a believer's spiritual blessings come through the gospel and not through the New Covenant promised to the house of Israel and the house of Judah. Put on your dunce hat and go sit in the corner before you embarrass yourself again.

 

[Epoisses]

You are delusional sonny boy!

You are so blind you quote a verse which speaks of a "testament" and according to you it is referring to a "covenant."

You cannot even understand simple English and your spiritual I.Q. is practically non-existent or else you would know that a believer's spiritual blessings come through the gospel and not through the New Covenant promised to the house of Israel and the house of Judah. Put on your dunce hat and go sit in the corner before you embarrass yourself again.

After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament (diatheke) in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. 1Cor. 11:25,26

The Greek word 'diatheke' is translated as 'covenant' 20 times in the NT, lol.

Luke 1:72; Acts 7:8; Romans 9:4;11:27; Gal. 3:15,17;4:24; Eph. 2:12; Heb. 8:6,8,9,10;9:24;10:16,29;12:24;13:20

And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant (diatheke), and to the blood of sprinkling, Heb. 12:24

BOOM!

 

[heir]

Yes and that remnant included believing Jews first and believing Gentiles second. Both groups were part of the body of Christ.

The remnant according to the election of grace which God foreknew has nothing to do with Israel future that God has a covenant with. The remnant according to the election of grace which God foreknew is the first group to whom Paul was sent (both Jews and Greeks).

The Israel future spoken of in Romans 11 are not members of the church which is His Body, but will be a royal priesthood, an holy nation (1 Peter 2:9 KJV). And again showing yet another difference: there is no nationality in the new man (Colossians 3:11 KJV).

 

[heir]

How many Jews in Israel preach grace?

:doh: The Israel we see today is not the Israel of God. The Israel of God is presently Hosea 1:9 KJV.

 

[Epoisses]

The remnant according to the election of grace which God foreknew has nothing to do with Israel future that God has a covenant with. The remnant according to the election of grace which God foreknew is the first group to whom Paul was sent (both Jews and Greeks).

The Israel future spoken of in Romans 11 are not members of the church which is His Body, but will be a royal priesthood, an holy nation (1 Peter 2:9 KJV). And again showing yet another difference: there is no nationality in the new man (Colossians 3:11 KJV).

There will be Jews in the future who accept Christ and preach grace but as a nation it will never happen. According to prophecy the nation of Israel will accept the false christ or anti-christ but never the real one.

 

[heir]

After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament (diatheke) in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. 1Cor. 11:25,26

The Greek word 'diatheke' is translated as 'covenant' 20 times in the NT, lol.

Luke 1:72; Acts 7:8; Romans 9:4;11:27; Gal. 3:15,17;4:24; Eph. 2:12; Heb. 8:6,8,9,10;9:24;10:16,29;12:24;13:20

And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant (diatheke), and to the blood of sprinkling, Heb. 12:24

BOOM!

What a mess.


 

[Epoisses]

:doh: The Israel we see today is not the Israel of God. The Israel of God is presently Hosea 1:9 KJV.

Yea, Paul quoted that in Romans 9 and applied it to the Gentiles - want the verses?

 

[Epoisses]

What a mess.


...is your false Darby gospel for the spiritually inept.

 

[heir]

There will be Jews in the future who accept Christ and preach grace but as a nation it will never happen.

not grace...WORK!

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

[heir]

...is your false Darby gospel for the spiritually inept.

We preach the cross as the power of God.

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Why is it foolishness to you?

 

[jamie]

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Would that include the Sabbath?

 

[Epoisses]

not grace...WORK!

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

You're just spamming now...it's just sad. I gave your false gospel a black eye and a busted lip.

 

[Epoisses]

Would that include the Sabbath?

LOL. Jamie and her sabbath day. She threw away all her Easter eggs and Christmas trees too!

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

:chuckle:

 

[heir]

Yea, Paul quoted that in Romans 9 and applied it to the Gentiles - want the verses?

Romans 9, 10, and 11 is a microcosm of Israel's past, present and future.

Romans 9:1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

Romans 9:2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

Romans 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

Romans 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

Romans 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

...

Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Romans 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
...

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Romans 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

And although Paul makes mention of Gentiles such as we in Romans, he was not dealing with us yet.

 

[heir]

You're just spamming now...it's just sad. I gave your false gospel a black eye and a busted lip.

1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV

 

[Epoisses]

Romans 9, 10, and 11 is a microcosm of Israel's past, present and future.

Romans 9:1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

Romans 9:2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

Romans 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

Romans 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

Romans 9:5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

...

Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Romans 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
...

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Romans 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. Rom. 9:24-27

BOOM!

 

[Jerry Shugart]

After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament (diatheke) in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. 1Cor. 11:25,26

The Greek word 'diatheke' is translated as 'covenant' 20 times in the NT, lol.

It is translated as "testament" in the very verse which you quoted and despite that you think that the word "testament" is referring to a "covenant"!

You are a couple of cans short of a six-pack and you continue to embarrass yourself!

If I was as dumb as you are I certainly wouldn't continue to bring attention to just how stupid I am!

A TESTAMENT is not a COVENANT!

 

[Epoisses]

Gotta run. Got better things to do then waste my time on unbelievers!

 

[heir]

Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. Rom. 9:24-27

BOOM!

As usual, you miss the point.

BAM!