Israel (the modern country)

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I'm not sure where I stand on this incident. I don't trust US media at all so the more they blame Israel the less I believe them. They have lied to us consistently for a long time. Nothing they have said about the Ukraine war of the vaxes is true so why would I believe them on this?

Here is an article y a former cia analyst whom I have found to be honest for the last year or so. He gives an honest balanced assessment of the situation.

 

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Reps. Rashida Tlaib (D., Mich.) and Ilhan Omar (D., Minn.) rushed to blame Israel and parrot claims from Hamas following a Tuesday blast at a Gazan hospital. Now that evidence has emerged contradicting those claims, the lawmakers are silent.

"Israel just bombed the Baptist Hospital killing 500 Palestinians (doctors, children, patients)," Tlaib said shortly after news broke of an explosion at Al Ahli Arab Hospital in the northern Gaza Strip. "This is what happens when you refuse to facilitate a ceasefire & help de-escalate." Omar echoed Tlaib's rhetoric, saying, "The [Israel Defense Forces] reportedly blowing up one of the few places the injured and wounded can seek medical treatment and shelter during a war is horrific."

It did not take long for evidence to emerge contradicting those claims. The morning after the attack, footage from Gaza showed the hospital intact, with damage largely confined to the building's parking lot. Shortly thereafter, both President Joe Biden and senior U.S. officials cited independent data showing that a Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket—not an Israeli missile—misfired and hit the hospital.


 

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“Israeli Strike Kills Hundreds in Hospital, Palestinians Say,” the original headline read.

The second headline dropped the Israeli accusation but still called the blast a “strike.” “At Least 500 Dead in Strike on Gaza Hospital, Palestinians Say,” it read.

The third headline dropped the word strike, a word that could insinuate an Israeli airstrike. “At Least 500 Dead in Blast at Gaza Hospital, Palestinians Say,” it read.

 

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.https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/doxxers-friday-october-20-2023-c?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

The New York Times generated even more disgust over its war coverage yesterday when it “accidentally” on purpose showed Hamas terrorists exactly where all Israel’s ground invasion units were in real time:

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Now Hamas knows exactly where to aim its rockets! Not to mention shore up its defenses. Thanks, New York Times!

Now ponder this question: somebody gave the Times that satellite imagery analysis. Who could it be? It wasn’t diligent, hardworking New York Times reporters, don’t make me laugh.

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🔥 With friends like these, we don’t even need Hamas. In a similar story yesterday, Fox ran an article headlined, “Biden administration admits it doxxed US special forces soldiers in Israel, apologizes.” You’d better sit down for this one.

While Biden was in Israel, he “encouraged” U.S. special forces members with a personal visit. Our soldiers were there secretly to help retrieve over a dozen American hostages. But then Biden’s team posted the unredacted photos — which clearly showed four of the soldiers’ faces and their tattoos — on Instagram:

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This is the redacted version. Biden posted a clear photo.

Biden deleted the photo an hour later — too late, after hundreds of thousands of views — and only after people started pointing out the terrorists will soon identify these soldiers and then target them and their families. A White House spokesperson told Fox News, "As soon as this was brought to our attention, we immediately deleted the photo. We regret the error and any issues this may have caused."
 

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the canadian government & canadian msm can't see that the hospital is still there

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.https://twitter.com/Jikkyleaks/status/1715895634501480537


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some media recounting of the video they saw of what hams did

.https://x.com/PiersUncensored/status/1716536352223732131?s=20

.https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1716493737201668294?s=20
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training in gaza for over a year but Israel didn't know , 🐴 🏒

.https://x.com/CNN/status/1712673537968709841?s=20
 
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.https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/intelligence-failures-monday-october

Day 16 — Middle East War Briefing 🚀

💣 Last week, Patrick Byrne published a short video offering the first fact-based theory for Israel’s massive, inexplicable October 7th intelligence failure. And it’s a doozy. I’ve summarized it below if you don’t have time to watch the whole clip.

Between what Patrick said and what he didn’t say but strongly implied, the short version is that, following the summer battle over Israel’s leftist Supreme Court, Biden (i.e. Obama), U.S. intelligence agencies, and Israeli intelligence agencies undermined Israel — to get rid of Benjamin Netanyahu.

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CLIP: Patrick Byrne offers explanation for Israel’s intelligence failure (24:25).

In case you aren’t familiar with him, Patrick Byrne is a brilliant polyglot, former McKinsey consultant, entrepreneur, founder of Overstock.com, and now conservative influencer. He got involved in the Trump elections debacle, personally funding and supervising elections audits all over the country. Significantly for this story, he’s an experienced software developer and works with lots of Israeli software firms (Israeli is the current world headquarters of advanced software development).

Patrick claimed to have firsthand insider information from his Israeli contacts.

The gist of Patrick’s theory is that former Obama officials Dan Shapiro (Obama’s ambassador to Israel), Avril Haines (Obama deputy assistant), Anthony Blinken (Obama deputy assistant), and Michele Flournoy (Obama undersecretary of defense) began representing an Israeli cyber-security software developer called Paragon. Paragon develops top-secret security tools for Israeli’s defense industry.

After the former Obama officials got involved with Paragon, and continuing through the Biden regime, the U.S. has systematically targeted all of Paragon’s competitors using a variety of federal procurement tools and sanctions, forcing them either to close or sell off their assets to Paragon or the U.S. intelligence agencies.

At this point, Israel depends on one single security software provider, Paragon, a fact that the country’s intelligence agencies have warned is a critical security risk. And that one software provider is deeply connected to Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Paragon is also linked to former Israeli Prime Minister and sworn Netanyahu enemy Ehud Barak, who visited Epstein Island “on business” over 30 times, which means that he is almost certainly a blackmail pawn of the U.S. and Israeli deep states.

During the spring, Netanyahu led a conservative takeover of Israel’s government following a disastrous leftist cycle. One of the new conservative government’s first projects was to prune back a law allowing Israel’s Supreme Court to overturn any democratically-passed legislation that the Court felt was inconsistent with Israel’s values — a blank check. The reform — which was ultimately successful — was opposed by none less than the U.S. deep state and one Joseph Robinette Biden.

And, although officially denied, leaked documents showed the conservative reforms were also opposed by members of Israel’s own top security agency, Mossad:

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To pull the threads together, what I think Patrick is suggesting (without explicitly saying so) is that the U.S. deep state, working with the Israeli deep state, engineered October 7th. They did it to punish Netanyahu for the Supreme Court reforms, and to purge Israel’s new conservative government. The deepstate termites may have accomplished it by sabotaging Israel’s security software, on which the country is almost completely dependent.

Admittedly, it’s a bold, 9/11-level conspiracy theory, but so far it’s the only fact-based theory going.



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The longer the delay, the less likely politically possible it will be for Israel to invade Gaza at all. And if, at the end of the day, Israel does not invade Gaza after the October 7th attacks, Israel’s conservative government will undoubtedly fall, delighting U.S. and Israeli deep state color revolutionaries who failed to abolish Netanyahu with nationwide protests in the summer.

Remember the Chuck Schumer rule: they have seven ways from Sunday to get back at you.

Second, Israel’s internal leftist forces are starting to stretch and get ready to take advantage of the situation in the domestic politics arena. In other words, the period of unity is coming to a close. Israel’s papers this weekend were packed with swelling criticism of Netanyahu, neatly summarized in this Haaretz example:

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Prime Minister Netanyahu faces irresistible public pressure to start the invasion, but on the other hand, the United States — his most critical ally, needed to hold off opportunistic enemies while Israel fights with Hamas — is flat telling him not to do it. I would bet my next paycheck that when Biden flew around the globe for a one-hour face-to-face meeting last week it was to warn Bibi not to invade.

Third, Israel’s other enemies are lining up to invade Israel when Israel invades Gaza. All last week, pressure continued mounting along Israel’s northern border, as other regional enemies waited with barely-concealed glee for Israel to commit its forces to Gaza in the south. For example, Lebanon-based terrorist group Hezbollah spent last week steadily increasing rocket attacks from the north, while Iran and Israel traded threats.
 

Gary K

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Here is an interesting video by someone with with either a Jewish or German name. He's an independent journalist who's been reporting on the middle east for a decade. He shows some clips our media will never show us. BTW, I found this on Larry Johnson's blog.

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Gary K

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I used to be a very strong supporter of Israel as Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years and I'm a big supporter of underdogs. However as I now am getting two-sided information I'm far less sympathetic to the nation of Israel's cause as they are committing a lot of evil acts themselves. I no longer equate Zionism with Judaism.
 
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