Islamic Terrorists France: 12 dead, police gunned down

Nazaroo

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aikido7 said:
It seems obvious to anybody that the actions of these terrible extremists that have done such horrendous crimes do not reflect the vast majority of Muslims.
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Which is an irrelevant point.

Islam is a hotbed and breeding ground for millions of disgruntled terrorists,
who find it fertile soil to feed their egotism, frustration and mental illnesses.

The fact is, the Quran is simply a paramilitary handbook,
mascarading as a religious work.
It is full of extremist ideas and sentiments that are criminally insane.


One major problem is the idea that all poverty and unemployment is blame-free,
or caused by forces completely outside any individual's control.

The sad but potentially positive truth is that attitude greatly affects performance,
and almost anyone can improve their situation by trying.

People bred on a 'fault-free' welfare system have trouble making the
mental connections to realise they can escape, and the optimism to do it.

Yet an opportunity, a job, a new vocation, food, medical help, are often
only steps away, mentally and physically.





Without secular society the most dangerous thing for religion is when it's married to political power.
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Another laugh, or rather tragicomedy.

When atheists got control of Russia, 8 million innocents were slaughtered.


There is a growing group of atheists in the world and their numbers are increasing. Both Islam and Christian fundamentalism are getting squeezed out of the global culture. The other-worldliness, the bigotry, the hypocrisy and the patriarchal dynamics are no longer tenable.

Plus, the ancient theologies of the past are ridiculous in today's world.
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The pipe-dream of a pot-smoking secular humanist.

The FACTS say that Islam is the fastest INCREASING religion,
and I'm sure it is far out-stripping any recruiting for atheism.
 
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Terrorists are first and foremost criminals, not political actors. This fact, though, does not alter the truth that they use their interpretation of religion to be a justification to kill others.

Christian militias use religion as a political force to massacre Islamic civilians as well.

Google "Guardian Christian militias massacre" and you will see.
 
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Nazaroo said:
Which is an irrelevant point.

Islam is a hotbed and breeding ground for millions of disgruntled terrorists,
who find it fertile soil to feed their egotism, frustration and mental illnesses.

The fact is, the Quran is simply a paramilitary handbook,
mascarading as a religious work.
It is full of extremist ideas and sentiments that are criminally insane.


One major problem is the idea that all poverty and unemployment is blame-free,
or caused by forces completely outside any individual's control.

The sad but potentially positive truth is that attitude greatly affects performance,
and almost anyone can improve their situation by trying.

People bred on a 'fault-free' welfare system have trouble making the
mental connections to realise they can escape, and the optimism to do it.

Yet an opportunity, a job, a new vocation, food, medical help, are often
only steps away, mentally and physically.







Another laugh, or rather tragicomedy.

When atheists got control of Russia, 8 million innocents were slaughtered.




The pipe-dream of a pot-smoking secular humanist.

The FACTS say that Islam is the fastest INCREASING religion,
and I'm sure it is far out-stripping any recruiting for atheism.
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Terrorism and suicide bombers are thugs, not Muslims.
Like the gangs in LA and Detroit, they are composed of people who have lost all hope and find a certain comfort in belonging to a "family-type dynamic."

Violent people are people who are not able to process their own suffering and so act it out on other people.
 
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Nazaroo said:
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Islam is a hotbed and breeding ground for millions of disgruntled terrorists,
who find it fertile soil to feed their egotism, frustration and mental illnesses.

The fact is, the Quran is simply a paramilitary handbook,
mascarading as a religious work.
It is full of extremist ideas and sentiments that are criminally insane....
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As in the New Testament, it is useful to be able to separate the unique voiceprint of Muhammed from the later theology and hatefulness put into his mouth by the Koran authors.


Muhammad led a Muslim force against the Khaybar oasis, which was inhabited by Jews — many of whom he had previously exiled from Medina. When he did so, he was not responding to any provocation; he encountered the men of Khaybar going out to work their farms, with no idea that they were about to be attacked. One of the Muslims later remembered:

"When the apostle raided a people he waited until the morning. If he heard a call to prayer he held back; if he did not hear it he attacked. We came to Khaybar by night, and the apostle passed the night there; and when morning came he did not hear the call to prayer, so he rode and we rode with him….We met the workers of Khaybar coming out in the morning with their spades and baskets. When they saw the apostle and the army they cried, "Muhammad with his force" and turned tail and fled. The apostle said, Allah Akbar! Khaybar is destroyed. When we arrive in a people’s square it is a bad morning for those who have been warned."

The Muslim advance was inexorable.

"The apostle," according to Muhammad’s earliest biographer, Ibn Ishaq, "seized the property piece by piece and conquered the forts one by one as he came to them."

Another biographer of Muhammad, Ibn Sa’d, reports that the battle was fierce:

the "polytheists…killed a large number of [Muhammad’s] Companions and he also put to death a very large number of them….He killed ninety-three men of the Jews…"

Muhammad and his men offered the fajr prayer, the Islamic dawn prayer, before it was light, and then entered Khaybar itself. The Muslims immediately set out to locate the inhabitants’ wealth. A Jewish leader of Khaybar, Kinana bin al-Rabi, was brought before Muhammad; Kinana was supposed to have been entrusted with the treasure of the Jewish tribes of Arabia, the Banu Nadir. Kinana denied knowing where this treasure was, but Muhammad pressed him: "Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?" Kinana said yes, that he did know that.

Some of the treasure was found. To find the rest, Muhammad gave orders concerning Kinana: “Torture him until you extract what he has.” One of the Muslims built a fire on Kinana’s chest, but Kinana would not give up his secret. When he was at the point of death, one of the Muslims beheaded him. Kinana’s wife was taken as a war prize; Muhammad claimed her for himself and hastily arranged a wedding ceremony that night. He halted the Muslims’ caravan out of Khaybar later that night in order to consummate the marriage.

Muhammad agreed to let the people of Khaybar to go into exile, allowing them to keep as much of their property as they could carry. The Prophet of Islam, however, commanded them to leave behind all their gold and silver. He had intended to expel all of them, but some, who were farmers, begged him to allow them to let them stay if they gave him half their yield annually.

Muhammad agreed: "I will allow you to continue here, so long as we would desire." He warned them: "If we wish to expel you we will expel you.” They no longer had any rights that did not depend upon the good will and sufferance of Muhammad and the Muslims. And indeed, when the Muslims discovered some treasure that some of the Khaybar Jews had hidden, he ordered the women of the tribe enslaved and seized the perpetrators’ land. A hadith notes that "the Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives."

Compassion!

JOHN DAVID ATKINS
 
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DilatedMind said:
The input of the Islamic world was, indeed, once unbelievably profound; mathematics and astronomy have some significant debts to the early years, as do the realms of poetry and literature. But no longer.
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you're missing the only reason we give a crap about the islamic world today

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lots and lots of cheap energy

if we can develop a workable electric energy storage device that approximates petroleum, we can turn our back on the mooslims and leave them to their squabbles

eventually they'll destroy each other and the middle east will once again become the barren sand covered wasteland that God intended :thumb:
 
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