And who says that your sect is not man-made? Oh no I have left it open to another website.
Is Perspecuity Necessary for Sola Scriptura?
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iouae
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A characteristic of every brainwashed cult member I have known is that they cannot give a summary argument themselves.
They have to point to their cult site filled with it's "proof".
This proves they have no clear grip on their church's argument.
Cruciform
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Go ahead, then, and demonstrate that the one historic Catholic Church was founded by a mere man, rather than by Jesus Christ, the Divine Son of God. Please post your proof now.
iouae
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It's not up to us to prove that Big Foot doesn't exist.
It is up to you to prove that it does
Cruciform
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No need, since these issues have been argued and answered by Catholics for centuries, and they have all long since been recorded in writing. There are times when I have argued and length a particular subject, but where they have already been adequately and concisely recorded, it seems prudent to save much time and energy by simply referencing reliable sources. Either way, my opponent receives precisely the same information, so there's really no basis for complaint.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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Who do you think founded the Catholic Church? Men, just as men founded the Protestant Church. :doh:
Cruciform
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BR made a positive assertion about the Catholic Church, and the burden of proof is on him to demonstrate it. Still waiting for his proof.
I do not dispute that Jesus founded the Church. Thought Peter was the founder and rock upon which your "Church" was founded?
iouae
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I believe in the simplicity that is in Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Normally false doctrines take a whole site to explain.
Cruciform
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Yes, Jesus Christ himself founded his one historic Church upon the Rock of St. Peter (Mt. 16:18-19; 1 Tim. 3:15).
Cruciform
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The opinions that you have derived from your chosen recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect are noted.
Also, I didn't direct you to "a whole site," but merely to a brief summary article. Try not to exaggerate.
brewmama
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Right. Just like Jesus said.
I believe that Jesus founded the "Church" is the the chief cornerstone/rock upon which it is built.
1 Peter 2:6-7New King James Version (NKJV)
6 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture,
“Behold, I lay in Zion
A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”
7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient,
“The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone,”
Cruciform
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Addressed here.
Still waiting for you to post your proof for the assertion that the one historic Catholic Church was founded by a mere man.
iouae
Well-known member
Oh PLEASE not the "noted" empty threat.
I clicked on the here url you provided to the Catholic.com website you directed me to. Is your Catholic.com site not "a whole site"?
Keep digging. You are disappearing into a hole.
Cruciform
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Rather, the link took you to a specific summary article.
brewmama
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What do you think you are proving? Do you actually think that the Catholic Church doesn't have Christ as the head, the founder, the chief cornerstone, whatever you want to call it? Of course it does. That does not in any way take away from the fact, supported by much scripture, that what Jesus established was the church, NOT to just give us the Bible. It never says anywhere in scripture that he was here to just give us the Bible, or that after the Apostles there was no longer hierarchical authority. And the Church he founded was the Catholic (and Orthodox) Church. To argue otherwise is to ignore history and to present as very obtuse and close minded.
iouae
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As much as I enjoy bickering like an old married couple....
Unless you have a definite doctrine to discuss, I am off to bed.
And you can sleep on the couch
And it has been determined by some to be wrong assumption.
Romans 1:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”
Do you believe it?