Is marital rape scripturally defensible?

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~AnnaBanana resurrecting old threads quoting the thing she dislikes most~

Here's a clunker: "Teach men not to rape rather than tell women to be cautious"

Why is that bothersome? Because it follows this line of logic: "Don't teach children to not take candy from strangers- teach the strangers not to kidnap or molest"

Makes perfect sense.

With that absurdity in mind, it's no wonder society developed the idea of 'marital rape'- something never testified by any woman up until forty years ago, because women didn't have a victim complex so outrageous before then that they would sit there and cry rape from a circumstance of undesired sex from their own damn spouse :rolleyes:
 

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Here's a clunker: "Teach men not to rape rather than tell women to be cautious"

Where actual *men* are concerned, there is no necessity to be cautious. Rape is the tool for overgrown, mentally challenged males who feel powerless and inadequate in their own lives.
 

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Marital rape has always existed, it wasn't "created by feminists."

Nah, that's just an excuse to defend the actions of overgrown boys who lack self-control and to boost their lack of self-esteem. Of course they will blame those who stand on the side of the victims ...
 

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Nah, that's just an excuse to defend the actions of overgrown boys who lack self-control and to boost their lack of self-esteem. Of course they will blame those who stand on the side of the victims ...

In sod's wiki link:

The views which contributed to rape laws not being applicable in marriage can be traced, at least partially, to 17th century English common law, which was exported to the British American colonies. The 17th-century English jurist, Sir Matthew Hale, stated the position of the common law in The History of the Pleas of the Crown (1736) that a husband cannot be guilty of the rape of his wife because the wife "hath given up herself in this kind to her husband, which she cannot retract". The principle, no record of which is found earlier than Hale's view, would continue to be accepted as a statement of the law in England and Wales until it was overturned by the House of Lords in the case of R. v. R in 1991,[1] where it was described as an anachronistic and offensive legal fiction.

The strong influence of conservative Christianity in the US may have also played a role: the Bible at 1 Corinthians 7:3-5 explains that one has a "conjugal duty" to have sexual relations with one's spouse (in sharp opposition to sex outside marriage which is considered a sin) and states that "The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another (...)"[2] - and this is interpreted by some conservative religious figures as rejecting the possibility of marital rape.[3]

That's the religious argument they fall back on, in claiming there's no such thing as marital rape. Oh, the ways they apply those bible verses so conveniently!
 

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Nah, that's just an excuse to defend the actions of overgrown boys who lack self-control and to boost their lack of self-esteem. Of course they will blame those who stand on the side of the victims ...

As opposed to overgrown girls with a victim complex.

A claim of being 'raped by husband' has always been, and will always be, a joke. Women ever testified to it until the law saw fit forty years ago to make it a thing- to complete the picture of the much loaded 'emancipation' of women that doesn't even respect marriage.

Doesn't respect anything, really. It is nothing more than a bull rush attempting to tumble natural order.
 

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In sod's wiki link:
The views which contributed to rape laws not being applicable in marriage can be traced, at least partially, to 17th century English common law, which was exported to the British American colonies. The 17th-century English jurist, Sir Matthew Hale, stated the position of the common law in The History of the Pleas of the Crown (1736) that a husband cannot be guilty of the rape of his wife because the wife "hath given up herself in this kind to her husband, which she cannot retract". The principle, no record of which is found earlier than Hale's view, would continue to be accepted as a statement of the law in England and Wales until it was overturned by the House of Lords in the case of R. v. R in 1991,[1] where it was described as an anachronistic and offensive legal fiction.

The strong influence of conservative Christianity in the US may have also played a role: the Bible at 1 Corinthians 7:3-5 explains that one has a "conjugal duty" to have sexual relations with one's spouse (in sharp opposition to sex outside marriage which is considered a sin) and states that "The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another (...)"[2] - and this is interpreted by some conservative religious figures as rejecting the possibility of marital rape.[3]

That's the religious argument they fall back on, in claiming there's no such thing as marital rape. Oh, the ways they apply those bible verses so conveniently!

Thankfully the law disagrees with them ... and no amount of foot stomping or door slamming will change that reality. :D
 

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Thank goodness for progression. :)

Yeah, where men aren't even safe in their own marriage.

Their wife can cry rape, or take everything away from them in a flash. All she has to do is have sex with him and run into door, and there goes his life :rolleyes:

The odds don't look good when domestic courts are virtually inquisitions- guilty until proven innocent.
 
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