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I don't really agree with your first statement, though there is certainly more overlap than with liberalism.
Is mankind basically good ?
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ClimateSanity
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It's how I see it.. Not important though. I sincerely think all political difference boils down to liberal or conservative or derivatives thereof.
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While speaking with a very, very sharp Mid-Acts Pastor-Teacher yesterday, I mentioned to him that whether a person is aware of it or not, they are applying a system of study to the Scripture.
He disagreed.
I found that interesting; as highly sharp as he is, he could not see this obvious.
You're basically saying something similar about a person being either some shade of Liberal or Conservative.
At the same time, for you and some of yours to conclude me a Liberal right off; is a bit presumptuously ignorant.
Therein lies the obvious - your obvious tendency to not only labor under a false dichotomy, but to run with it.
It is the very blinder I often observe you labor under.
Fact of the matter?
I hold to no party.
I try to go by what is right in the sight of God as the Word teaches me this side of God's Mystery Grace, and on a case by case basis.
THAT...IS Pauline...
1 Corinthians 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
1 Corinthians 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
1 Corinthians 10:33 Even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
Huckleberry
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I believe we're all born selfish but are forced by reality to adopt good behavior and even beliefs.
Drop a dozen people on a jungle island, for example, and they'll immediately start working together to survive, not because they're civic minded but because they want to survive.
Come to think of it, this is a huge advantage most of us have over sociopaths and psychopaths. Let's thank God for it.
Drop a dozen people on a jungle island, for example, and they'll immediately start working together to survive, not because they're civic minded but because they want to survive.
Come to think of it, this is a huge advantage most of us have over sociopaths and psychopaths. Let's thank God for it.
Huckleberry
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Lord of the Flies didn't turn out that way.
Most of those boys were working together pretty well at the end,
I am not talking about righteousness and the standard to enter into life, but moral relativism. How we say is somebody good or bad. I thought that is where you were going.
Why would you rather be blind, than see?
Because the Spirit of God is in the world.
ClimateSanity
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Conservatives in America remained loyal to the British "crown!"
ClimateSanity
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Of course they were classic liberals. You and your kind are light years from classic liberalism.
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Conservatism is a reaction to post JFK liberalism. It didn't exist before then.
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The Founding Fathers on liberalism.
“As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.”
— George Washington
“As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.”
— George Washington
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His word liberal is totally foreign to your liberalism.
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Wrong. You are trying to imply they are liberal and like you. When you know it doesn't work. In other threads, you will call them racist white slave owners that didn't want to pay their taxes.
Equal protection under the law and not being partial to the poor is Biblical. I shared this with Limbaugh at his public email when he stated that it was an American original idea. Its true that life before America was one full of dungeons and slavery. So I showed him how the practice of liberty is and where it comes from.
It comes from the creator, our Lord Jesus Christ.
So the founding Fathers are anything but liberal in the way liberals want to describe them with their misdirection.
It comes from the creator, our Lord Jesus Christ.
So the founding Fathers are anything but liberal in the way liberals want to describe them with their misdirection.
O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
Between their lov’d home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with vict’ry and peace may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the power that hath made and preserv’d us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto - “In God is our trust,”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Between their lov’d home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with vict’ry and peace may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the power that hath made and preserv’d us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto - “In God is our trust,”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.