IS M.A.D. DOCTRINE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE?

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heir

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Danoh said:
It's self-righteous heir "in Christ" - so you know it is in the derogatory :chuckle:

Lol, these so called "gracers" and their grace-less "grace" - what characters.

It is why they don't attend MAD assemblies - most MADs are not about this grace-less "grace" of theirs.

They'd have no one to prove wrong, let alone, look down their collective noses at :chuckle:

Don't be so hard on them, Mindless 1; they're without a home...
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Who asked you, obsessed, busy body? Is this you exercising your "graceful grace"?
 
heir

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Danoh said:
For ol GM to then keeping bringing up his phoney promise to the Lord...that he has put you on hold...

You might find yourself on ignore; but you'll be the last to know - his ignore has a built in continued reminder from...ol GM :chuckle:
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Someone's promise to the Lord kept or broken is none of your business, gossip freak.
 
heir

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glorydaz said:
If you weren't so busy talking trash about Heir, you might notice that her response to Zeke was about as honest a response as he could hope for. That was one "far out" there post if I've ever seen one.

You're simply being a contentious dweeb, Danoh, and you're making a complete fool of yourself.
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He's had an obsession for some time and can't seem to get over it. Everyone can see it.
 
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Ben Masada said:
Well, you did not answer my question, either because I am Jewish or because you don't care for contradictions. Let me try something else. I accept Jesus as part of "Christ" because "Christ" means the Anointed of the Lord and if you read Prophet Habakkuk 3:13, "The Lord goes forth to save His People; to save His Anointed One." That's what "Christ" is, the Anointed One of the Lord aka Israel the son of God if you read Exodus 4:22,23. Jesus was part of the "Christ" that Israel was and part of the Son of God as also was Israel. The idea that Jesus was Christ or the son of God was fabricated by Paul if you read II Timothy 2:8 and Acts 9:20. As an individual, Jesus could not have been the Messiah because, the individual is born, lives his span of life and dies. Are we supposed to expect a new Messiah in every generation? Obviously not. The Messiah is not supposed to die but to remain as a people before the Lord forever. (Jeremiah 31:35-37)
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Got no time for you, sorry. Let somebody with more patience attend to you.
 
heir

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Danoh said:
It is why they don't attend MAD assemblies - most MADs are not about this grace-less "grace" of theirs.
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:rolleyes: yah, in my family's particular case, that's why we don't attend an assembly. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are hundreds of miles from our home or that the ones even hundreds of miles away call those who believe 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV "new reconciliationists". Those are right out of those you would call full of grace. hypocrite. And the bottom line anyway is, we are the church. So what if someone doesn't attend an "assembly"? What business is that of yours?

You need a new hobby. Take one up that you know something about.
 
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heir said:
:doh: Christ was not buried in a watery grave!
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And we are not buried in a tomb for 72 hours.

Water baptism is symbolic, not literal. It's for the remission of sin.

The Spirit baptizes through humans rather than appearing in person.

Then comes the receiving of the Holy Spirit by the laying on of hands.

Nothing to it, but it's only for those who have faith in the King of Israel.

Oh, and care to join him in Israel.

He is the only means of salvation ... there is no other way.
 
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heir said:
baptism (identification) into Christ's death just as Romans 6:4 KJV tells us!
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Faith is demonstrated by actions, not just talk.

Paul claimed that only those of faith are of Abraham.

Abraham is the father of the faithful in Christ.
 
Zeke

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Grosnick Marowbe said:
As I've previously stated, it's not necessary to trust in the "MAD Doctrine" in order to become a member of the Body of Christ." However, if your desire is to fully understand the Scriptures, it is invaluable. Otherwise, we can come across so-called contradictions and end up getting confused as to who is being spoken to. Sometimes the Bible is pertaining to the House of Israel alone, whereas, at other times it's pertaining to the Body of Christ.
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No that comes from mixing allegory with secular history that builds a temple and kingdom made of sand that secular and honest religious scholars can't find any verification of, Exodus to David,Solomon,Jesus,twelve,Paul, etc.... have next to nothing to back up the Biblical stories about them, which is obviously right when Luke 17:20-21, Acts 17:24, 1Cor 3:16, Galatians 4:24, is grasp by Revelation Galatians 1:12, you just can't except that the kingdom is Spiritual and is within you and that the allegory is retold over and over from Cain and Able to all other twins through the Biblical path, you would rather belong to a good ole boy club/box and hide behind that egocentric veil instead of thinking for you're self! God is Spirit GM so all those shadows/types you think are literal kingdom events have bewitched you Galatians 3:1-4, Christ/seed comes in flesh asleep/dead/ignorant/buried until raised from that state which is what Romans 6 explains, you rightfully understand baptism as spiritual then turn around and try to make Romans 6 a literal physical event! Romans 7:9, Mad and all literalist dogma equals spiritual confusion and have yet to resurrect :rip:
 
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heir

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Zeke said:
No that comes from mixing allegory with secular history that builds a temple and kingdom made of sand that secular and honest religious scholars can't find any verification of, Exodus to David,Solomon,Jesus,twelve,Paul, etc.... have next to nothing to back up the Biblical stories about them, which is obviously right when Luke 17:20-21, Acts 17:24, 1Cor 3:16, Galatians 4:24, is grasp by Revelation Galatians 1:12, you just can't except that the kingdom is Spiritual and is within you and that the allegory is retold over and over from Cain and Able to all other twins through the Biblical path, you would rather belong to a good ole boy club/box and hide behind that egocentric veil instead of thinking for you're self! God is Spirit GM so all those shadows/types you think are literal kingdom events have bewitched you Galatians 3:1-4, Christ/seed comes in flesh asleep/dead/ignorant/buried until raised from that state which is what Romans 6 explains, you rightfully understand baptism as spiritual then turn around and try to make Romans 6 a literal physical event! Romans 7:9, Mad and all literalist dogma equals spiritual confusion and have yet to resurrect :rip:
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Far out dude! gurusize like freelight or Gurucam

Spiritualize=spiritual lies
 
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