The day will come when no one will even attempt to have a conversation with you. You never fail to disappoint. :nono:
Nor do you, simply because of what you are not. The day is always that when people like you have no knowledge.
You never converse without the possibility of offering up a condescending remark born in willful ignorance. . . and I am coming to a conclusion that leads me to believe it isn't so willful but purposed.
Here, comment on this I offered up you ignore. Reconcile it to your inane mindset:
This is what in writing the OP I hoped you all might grasp. The below are the lyrics of a song that might cause you all to reconsider your traditional religious replies that the understanding of "giving up our rights to ourselves", doesn't lie in the issue of salvation except as God would have to be about Him . . .not us:
Follow Me
I traveled on a lonely road and no one seemed to care.
The burden on my weary back had bowed me to despair;
I oft complained to Jesus how folks were treating me,
And then I heard Him say so tenderly,
"My feet were also weary, upon the Calvary road;
The cross became so heavy, I fell beneath the load,
Be faithful weary pilgrim the morning I can see,
Just lift your cross and follow close to me."
"I work so hard for Jesus" I often boast and say
"I've sacrificed a lot of things to walk the narrow way,
I gave up fame and fortune, I'm worth a lot to Thee"
And then I hear Him gently say to me,
"I left the throne of glory and counted it but loss,
My hands were nailed in anger upon a cruel cross,
But now we'll make the journey with your hand safe in mine,
So lift your cross and follow close to me.
Oh Jesus if I die upon a foreign field someday,
'Twould be no more than love demands, no less could I repay,
"No greater love hath mortal man than for a friend to die"
These are the words He gently spoke to me,
"If just a cup of water I place within your hand
Then just a cup of water is all that I demand.
*But if by death to living *[i.e., crucifying my flesh on a daily basis] they can Thy glory see,
I'll take my cross and follow close to Thee.
*[Emphasis mine]
Tell the song writer, "You need to stop trying to earn your way to heaven", Jesus did it all". "Tell him he needs to get saved".
Go for it, if you have a spine.