He's also a pain in the neck.
Is constant confession needed for forgiveness?
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He's also a pain in the neck.
For any sin committed after justification (Acts 13:38, 39).
:yawn: I don't agree with him on everything.
You cannot have a come in Savior and a stay out Lord. He'll be Lord of all or he won't be Lord at all (Mal 4:4).
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Apostasy & Eternal Security
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PureX
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There are Christians who think they no longer sin. So have nothing to confess. And there are Christians who think they don't have to confess their sins because they are "saved" regardless of their sins. They basically can do whatever they want and their sins won't be held against them.
But the people who believe in confessing their sins usually do so because they are seeking absolution, and a chance to do better. Which is really what forgiveness is all about. The whole point of grace, and forgiveness, is that through them we are constantly being given another chance to live by the holy spirit instead of by our own selfish desires.
So I would say that logically, if we believe in the gift of forgiveness, we should use that gift as it was intended: as a way of gaining a new chance at living life in Christ, instead of in selfishness. And then when we fail at that quest, as we so often do, we can acknowledge that failure (confess it) and be forgiven of it, so that we can always try again.
But the people who believe in confessing their sins usually do so because they are seeking absolution, and a chance to do better. Which is really what forgiveness is all about. The whole point of grace, and forgiveness, is that through them we are constantly being given another chance to live by the holy spirit instead of by our own selfish desires.
So I would say that logically, if we believe in the gift of forgiveness, we should use that gift as it was intended: as a way of gaining a new chance at living life in Christ, instead of in selfishness. And then when we fail at that quest, as we so often do, we can acknowledge that failure (confess it) and be forgiven of it, so that we can always try again.
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It these kinds of MISQUOTES that cause problems.
Romans 6:7King James Version (KJV)
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
I love Paul's asides: "...assuming that you have heard about Him and were taught in Him". :mario: I assume nothing (Mt 7:20, Jas 2:18). :sherlock:
elohiym
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My Father is God. See 1 John 3:6-10.
So you've made a list to falsely accuse Christians? How Satanic.
I believe Jesus is God, the Father is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
You are a false accuser obviously putting a lot of effort into accusing people.
See Psalm 109. It was written by a polygamist.
glassjester
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We're pretending not to know what conversion is now?
Alright, Brother. You don't seem to want to talk unless I can speak in the exact words that you deem suitable. And if I don't, you pretend not to understand.
Let's whittle it down:
A Christian man converts to Islam. Is he still a BOC member? Was he never a BOC member? Is he no longer a BOC member?
glassjester
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Bob George honey badger theology (Ga 1:8, Mt 7:23).
Ro 8:13
Ga 5:16
As a reminder PureX is number 37 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:
elohiym
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If someone truly denies Christ he cannot be a member of His Body.
There are a number of possibilities but only God knows the heart.
Labels aside.
glassjester
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Alright.
Is there any event(s) that could take place that would lead to this man later becoming a member of the BOC?
Or... what happens when someone becomes a member of the BOC?
Your father is the devil (Jn 8:44).
We abide in him. You do not (Mt 7:20). :sherlock: This is what we call in the Greek--a no brainer.
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Abide in Him
:yawn: Choleric has made a list. I have added to the list.
A few housekeeping items:
The original thread had been deleted. Choleric recreated the thread.
You are not a Christian (2 Pe 2:1). :dizzy:
:yawn: How biblical (Eph 5:11).
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elohiym
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Can I just point to the story of David and Bathsheba? I'll elaborate if you like.
elohiym
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See Psalm 109. It was written by a polygamist.
glassjester
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Yes, definitely!
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I want YOUR clear and unambiguous explanation of what you think that this means.
I think that your idea of it is why you ask your A/B questions.
Only God knows for sure. People find many ways to fool themselves. But the Bible is pretty clear about what it means to trust in Christ as in "by grace through faith".
glassjester
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glassjester
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He became a Christian.
Let's go all in.
Let's say he came to believe exactly everything that you do, and live exactly as you do.
Then, five years later, on a Tuesday...
elohiym
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David was anointed King of Israel and received the Holy Spirit. Nevertheless, he committed adultery. When he realized what he deserved as punishment for adultery under the law, he prayed for repentance and forgiveness (Psalm 51). David asked God to not take away the Holy Spirit but to renew it within him, to give him a clean heart. And what was the result? God did not punish David according to the letter of the law, but pardoned him and Bathsheba, and let them be husband and wife. How did David live after that? It is written: "David did what was right in the sight of the LORD, and had not turned aside from anything that He commanded him all the days of his life, except in the case of Uriah the Hittite." 1 Kings 15:5.
What happened to David that caused the result of 1 Kings 15:5? That is what happens to a sinner that repents and becomes a member of the Body of Christ.