I never talk to Jesus or the Holy Spirit

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marke said:
Romans 7 completely destroys your bad interpretation.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

This is Paul's testimony, speaking of his present condition. He could not have been speaking of his past lost condition because sinners do not serve the law of God with the mind.
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Romans 6:6, (the answer to Ron 7:24), and Romans 8:2, (the answer to Rom 7:23), make it clear that my interpretation is spot on.
 
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marke said:
You mentioned seeing your vessel in the mirror and I asked if what you saw was a perfect vessel instead of the earthen vessel Paul spoke of in 2 Cor.

2 Corinthians 4:7
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
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I don't recall that question, and I know I didn't say those words, as the vessel I have is far from perfect.
However, the One which is inside me, and holding the steering wheel, is perfect.
 
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marke said:
You may be wrong about what powers were given to those with the gift of working of miracles by confusing them with the events that happen in modern Christians' lives that appear to be miracles.
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I don't claim my escapes in traffic were because of a gift of the Holy Spirit.
Like healing and interpretation of tongues.
But I will always consider my escapes as miracles.
 
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glorydaz said:
You ignored it. Perhaps you didn't know. This is the risen Lord speaking to Paul.

Acts 22:
17 And it came to pass, that, when I was come again to Jerusalem, even while I prayed in the temple, I was in a trance;
18 And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.
19 And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee:
20 And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.
21 And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.
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Jesus wasn't speaking about Peter and the boys not receiving him.
He stayed with Peter in his house for 15 days.
Galatians 1:18
18Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas and stayed with him fifteen days.

Also, could it be that Paul didn't receive of the Holy Spirit until 3 years after being baptized by Ananias?
You have said that it is baptism by Holy Spirit that counts.
So was it when Ananias showed up or was it while Paul was in the wilderness?
 
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Right Divider said:
God did create a "church" that He calls the body of Christ. He established it with Paul as its first member.
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That's not what Paul said...
“Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.” – Romans 16:7

Why do you think of another Christ because Jesus is so long suffering that he would allow a murderer of his brethren in?
 
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1Mind1Spirit said:
Baptism is the answer of a clear conscience.
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Amen, and 1 Peter 3:21 is the verse that convinced me, who had been baptized as a baby, to get baptized of my own free will.
I wanted that "clear conscience toward God" more than anything else on earth.
Water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins is more than just one thing.
 
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1Mind1Spirit said:
Hebrews 10:39
39But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved.
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KJV..."But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul." (Heb 10:39)
Your version of scripture is...playing tricks on you.
 
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Right Divider said:
We are to be follows of Paul as He follows Christ (i.e., Christ not in the flesh).
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Try it sometime.

1 Corinthians 1:4 4I always thank my God for you because of his grace given you in Christ Jesus.

Romans 1:8 8First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world.

Ephesians 5:20 20always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our LORD Jesus Christ.

Philippians 1:3-5 3I thank my God every time I remember you.

4In all my prayers for all of you, I always pray with joy

5because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now,

1 Thessalonians 5:18 18give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
 
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Hoping said:
KJV..."But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul." (Heb 10:39)
Your version of scripture is...playing tricks on you.
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I like the KJV too.
Try these...

King James Bible
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

King James Bible
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
 
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