HOW TO GET TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE

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Prizebeatz1

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Really?

Really?

IME, heaven is right here and now and nowhere else. Waiting to experience heaven after one dies is deceptive. God is a God of the living, not the dead. The Alpha and Omega is timelessness. There is no future nor past in God. Do not be deceived. There is no beginning nor end to what is eternal.
 
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Prizebeatz1 said:
IME, heaven is right here and now and nowhere else. Waiting to experience heaven after one dies is deceptive. God is a God of the living, not the dead. The Alpha and Omega is timelessness. There is no future nor past in God. Do not be deceived. There is no beginning nor end to what is eternal.
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Heaven is reserved for the Righteous at The First Resurrection...

Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming in which all those in the tombs will hear His voice. And they will come out, the ones having practiced good into a resurrection of life; the ones having done evil into a resurrection of judgment. (John 5.28 – 29)
 
freelight

freelight

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Prizebeatz1 said:
IME, heaven is right here and now and nowhere else. Waiting to experience heaven after one dies is deceptive. God is a God of the living, not the dead. The Alpha and Omega is timelessness. There is no future nor past in God. Do not be deceived. There is no beginning nor end to what is eternal.
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Yes,....'heaven' which is God's presence, is ever present.

God is All There Is.

When you realize that, there is nothing but 'God'.
 
KingdomRose

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I didn't know Mr. Hutchings, but I'm sure I'll get to know him when he's resurrected into the new system of things.....paradise Earth under Christ's reign.
 
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xfrodobagginsx said:
ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?
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I am 100% sure that we all are going to the grave when we die.

Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:
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We all are sinners, including Jesus who was one. According to Eccles. 7:20, "There has never been a man upon earth to have done only good and never sinned." Jesus was a man upon earth for 33 years. Ain't I right?

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.
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I am glad that you acknowledge that a transgression of the Law is a sin.

Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:
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That's not true. We die because we have been born. Thousands of babies die every day without having ever committed a single sin.

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
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There is nothing eternal about man. (Gen. 3:22) Elohim alone is Eternal.

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."
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Jesus did not die for us because no one can die for the sins of another. (Jer. 31:30; Ezek. 18:20)

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things.
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Not every person but only those who have reached the age of personal responsibility which is from 13 for boys and 12 for girls.

A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail.
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Not true. A sin is a crime against the Law with punishment against the sinner; not against God.

It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God.
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Hell aka the grave is not punishment for sins but a natural act of being alive.

That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right?
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Right but it means that Jesus did not have to die for the sins of any one else. (Jer. 31:30; Ezek. 18:20)

Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.
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True if both Jesus and the president are alive. Once dead, they both cannot do any thing whatsoever. (Eccles. 9:5,6)

If you will Admit to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, Believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead and Accept Him as your Lord and Savior and you will be forgiven and taken to heaven to be with Him when you die.
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After one is dead, he can no longer do any thing for any one else.

Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name”
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The only way to become God's children is by joining God's Covenant with the Lord and become one as God's children. (Isaiah 56:1-8)

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."
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Now, you are implying that we discard God's Word and accept a Christian doctrine from the gospel of Paul for, otherwise, there is no bodily resurrection.

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your trust in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.
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That's not true. Jesus himself implied that the only way to achieve salvation is by listening to "Moses" aka the Law. (Luke 16:29-31)

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.
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I am already 100% sure that we all go to the grave wherefrom no one can ever return. (II Sam. 12:23; 14:14; Isaiah 26:14; Job 7:9)

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?
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No, neither that he rose from the dead. And salvation can be achieved only if we listen to "Moses" aka the Law. This was said by Jesus himself. (Luke 16:29-31)

If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and believe it with all of your heart, you could pray something like this to God from your heart:"Dear Lord Jesus, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, save me, take me to be with You when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."
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Jews don't pray to the dead because HaShem is not God for the dead but for the living only. (Mark 12:27)

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven.
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"Israel is My son; so let My son go that He may serve Me." (Exodus 4:22-23)

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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I am attending a synagogue already, just as Jesus used to. As you know, I am sure, he was not a Christian.
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Jesus Christ never sinned:

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
 
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The koran wasn't written until hundreds of years after the events in the bible. The koran CONTRADICTS the actual secular history of the biblical events, the bible does not. The bible was written by the actual eyewitnesses to the events, the koran was not. Mohammad wasn't there, the biblical writers were. Since what he says grossely contradicts the biblical, eyewitness accounts, I think it's safe to say that mohammad is a liar. It's like someone telling you that George Washington wasn't really the First U.S. President, he was a shoe salesman. That person lives today. Who are you going to believe the actual people who were there and/or lived in his time or some idiot who came along hundreds of years later refuting history and eyewitnesses to the events?
 
KingdomRose

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Oh yes, everyone is in need of a saviour, and Jesus Christ is the one sent by God to save the world (if they would accept it).

But why aim for heaven?

The Garden of Eden will be re-introduced to the planet, and God's will for the earth will be completed.

"For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not create it a waste place, but formed it to be inhabited)....(Isahai 45:18, NASB)

We can be right here on a planet that will be rescued from the polluters, and we will help make it into a fantastic dream garden, the world over. No more sickness, suffering or insecurity. No more hate, strife, old age or death. It will be like Adam had the chance to have, but he blew it. We will take up where he left off.

"The time came...to destroy those who destroy the earth." (Revelation 11:18b)



:third: (We get the prize, though Adam didn't.):third:
 
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xfrodobagginsx

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Ro 3:4 Let it not be! But let God be true, and every man a liar; as it is written, "That You might be justified in Your sayings, and will overcome when You are judged."
 
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