They are perishing because they do not believe on the one whom God has sent, John 5:30.
How the Gospel and Justification by Faith Refutes Calvinism
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They are perishing because they do not believe on the one whom God has sent, John 5:30.
beloved57
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Then Christ didn't live and die for them! !
Christ died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.
Because you refuse to believe that, there is a good chance that you are not a Christian.
Believing that Christ died for the sins of the whole world is the key to understanding the Gospel.
beloved57
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Those Christ lived and died for He obeyed the Law for them, that means He had Faith for them, Faith is part of doing the law of God Matt 23:23 !
You saying that Christ left that weightier matter undone?
If he saved them by having faith for them, then why doesn't everyone have faith?
And where is your scripture that says Jesus has faith for us?
Without scripture you are just blowing hot air, which is your own idea.
beloved57
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Christ didn't live and die for everyone! He lived and died only for believers!
John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Yes, He died for everyone but not all will accept his free gift of eternal life.
beloved57
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All for whom Christ lived and died ,Christ believed for them, they have Eternal life !
beloved57
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You ignore scriptures! You deny that Christ kept the Law for them He lived and died for!
As usual you are in error.
"That he by the grace of God should taste death for EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.
When are you going to start reading and believing the Bible?
beloved57
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Those Christ tasted death for, He lived and obeyed the Law for, and He had Faith for, Faith is part of doing the law Matt 23:23 !
You are screwing with the scripture again.
It does not say that Christ tasted death for any certain persons.
It says that he tasted death for EVERYONE.
Why is it you can't believe the Bible?
beloved57
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Those Christ tasted death for He lived and obeyed the Law for, had Faith for them, so they are believers, He didn't taste death for them who don't believe!
Because he's a "Hyper-Calvinist Fanatic." HCF for short!
HCFs trust in their false belief system and not the Bible. They've created
false doctrine and they cling to it aggressively!
false doctrine and they cling to it aggressively!
B57 rejects "Paul's Gospel" and will stand before God and be judged
by his works, if he doesn't cling to Paul's Gospel? (The Grace Message)
by his works, if he doesn't cling to Paul's Gospel? (The Grace Message)
Nanja
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Actually, the Judgment is a declaration of who is a believer and who isn't: The Sheep vs. the Goats.
For God has already Chosen and Predestinated His Children Eph. 1:4-5 before the foundation of the world 2 Tim. 1:9.
Christ Jesus Lived and Died for every one of them, His Sheep; they are the "many", a remnant Rom. 11:5
whom Christ made Righteous Rom. 5:19. That means, as their Covenant and Surety, they are made Complete in Him Col. 2:10:
He has been obedient to all the Law for them, including Believing for them; for to Believe on Him is a commandment,
an imperative for those He made righteous Acts 16:31. Christ Jesus tasted death for every one of them John 10:11,15.
And then He rose as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep Heb. 13:20: They are Believers indeed!
But that does not include all of mankind.
For the majority are the tares, goats whom the devil sowed in the world Mat. 13:38-39; 25:32-33, 41:
The Vessels of Wrath fitted for destruction:
Rom. 9:22-24 - What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known,
endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy,
which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
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How can you call yourself a Christian when you deny scriptures that glorify Christ and his Gospel.
Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.
He has tasted death for eveyone, Hebrews 2:9.
Ephesians 1:4, 5. Is not about you being predestinated. It is about how God chose all of humanity in his Son Jesus Christ.
Salvation has been provided for all as a free gift from God, Romans 5:15, 16, 17, 18, also Ephesians 2:8.
You make God out to be an unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous tyrant that delights in sending people to hell.
You have the wrong God, your God is not the God of the Bible, he is the God of a heretic.
beloved57
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Those Christ is the Savior of are saved!