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[andyc]

The gospel (ONE GOSPEL) is simply that the kingdom of God is presented to mankind.

Gospel of the kingdom of God.
Peace between God and man forever. Gospel of peace.
Faith in Christ is the way into the kingdom. Gospel of Christ.
God is the one by whom it is possible. Gospel of God.
The gospel is made available by the grace of God. Gospel of the grace of God.


Madists want to divide the one gospel up because they want to be associated with a fabricated gospel where the terms and conditions are more favorable to the flesh. They hate things like repentance, and want to off load it onto other people who are offered a much lesser, and much more challenging gospel.

Nope. Its one gospel for all.

Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

They hate it.

 

[Interplanner]

The gospel (ONE GOSPEL) is simply that the kingdom of God is presented to mankind.

Gospel of the kingdom of God.
Peace between God and man forever. Gospel of peace.
Faith in Christ is the way into the kingdom. Gospel of Christ.
God is the one by whom it is possible. Gospel of God.
The gospel is made available by the grace of God. Gospel of the grace of God.


Madists want to divide the one gospel up because they want to be associated with a fabricated gospel where the terms and conditions are more favorable to the flesh. They hate things like repentance, and want to off load it onto other people who are offered a much lesser, and much more challenging gospel.

Nope. Its one gospel for all.

Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

They hate it.

I don't think this will do Andy. What they are saying is that the kingdom of heaven was presented/offered to Israel as a gospel. They think that there are 2 programs in the Bible and when this offer was refused (which would have precluded the suffering and resurrection of Christ for sin), God went to the 2nd and the 1st was parenthesized until later.

D'ism has said this all along in its misunderstanding of how the NT resolves the promises to Abraham. Ie, the MAD part doesn't matter on this question.

The expression gospel of the kingdom is grammatically possessive. The Danielic kingdom without human hands was coming and it's power or energy is from the one historic Gospel of messiah's suffering for sins. It is not a gospel about there being a kingdom, but a gospel that belongs to this kingdom. an announcement that comes with it.

 

[andyc]

I don't think this will do Andy. What they are saying is that the kingdom of heaven was presented/offered to Israel as a gospel. They think that there are 2 programs in the Bible and when this offer was refused (which would have precluded the suffering and resurrection of Christ for sin), God went to the 2nd and the 1st was parenthesized until later.

D'ism has said this all along in its misunderstanding of how the NT resolves the promises to Abraham. Ie, the MAD part doesn't matter on this question.

The expression gospel of the kingdom is grammatically possessive. The Danielic kingdom without human hands was coming and it's power or energy is from the one historic Gospel of messiah's suffering for sins. It is not a gospel about there being a kingdom, but a gospel that belongs to this kingdom. an announcement that comes with it.

You really ought to let the new testament interpret the old testament prophecies, not the other way round. If not, you'll end up with the gibberish you wrote above.

 

[Interplanner]

You really ought to let the new testament interpret the old testament prophecies, not the other way round. If not, you'll end up with the gibberish you wrote above.

I have made a career of interpreting the OT by the NT. What do you think was missed?

Did you miss who "they" is? See the previous post. The various dispensationalists.

See what happens in Jn 12:34. Judaism thinks there is a kingdom being offered, and D'ism belongs with them, even thinking that was what Christ did originally. Instead Christ said he was the Light that was to come and we are supposed to walk in his light.

When Israel rejected a theocracy, they say, God went to the Gospel plan. It is a parenthesis. The theocracy comes back in the future as the millenium, because the Bible is 2P2P they say.

All this is D'ism 101. If it is gibberish it is because you need to get caught up a bit on your reading.

It is about the opposite of Acts 13's sermon, the best sample of how the apostles did things.

As for the grammar, sorry it got heady. It's merely the contrast between the possessive case and the genetive case.
"This is the coat of Kate." = possessive; it belongs to Kate
"There is a coat of semigloss on that cabinet." = genetive; it is descriptive. The coat this time actually is semigloss paint. The coat doesn't belong to semigloss; semigloss is a feature, not a person who owns things.

So: the gospel of the kingdom is possessive. It is not a 2nd gospel consisting of the offer of the kingdom that D'ist's imagine to exist. It is an announcement that belongs to it about what Christ would do; be the lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world, etc., as John said.

 

[andyc]

I have made a career of interpreting the OT by the NT. What do you think was missed?

Did you miss who "they" is? See the previous post. The various dispensationalists.

See what happens in Jn 12:34. Judaism thinks there is a kingdom being offered, and D'ism belongs with them, even thinking that was what Christ did originally. Instead Christ said he was the Light that was to come and we are supposed to walk in his light.

When Israel rejected a theocracy, they say, God went to the Gospel plan. It is a parenthesis. The theocracy comes back in the future as the millenium, because the Bible is 2P2P they say.

All this is D'ism 101. If it is gibberish it is because you need to get caught up a bit on your reading.

It is about the opposite of Acts 13's sermon, the best sample of how the apostles did things.

As for the grammar, sorry it got heady. It's merely the contrast between the possessive case and the genetive case.
"This is the coat of Kate." = possessive; it belongs to Kate
"There is a coat of semigloss on that cabinet." = genetive; it is descriptive. The coat this time actually is semigloss paint. The coat doesn't belong to semigloss; semigloss is a feature, not a person who owns things.

So: the gospel of the kingdom is possessive. It is not a 2nd gospel consisting of the offer of the kingdom that D'ist's imagine to exist. It is an announcement that belongs to it about what Christ would do; be the lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world, etc., as John said.

The kingdom of God is a spiritual realm, and in order to enter, there must be a destruction of the flesh. You must keep things as simple as scripture intends.
As long as the flesh reigns on earth, man is dead to the Spirit. The way into the the most Holy place was not made manifest while the first tabernacle (flesh) was still standing.
The gospel is simply that the time has come to enter the kingdom, as the way to enter is now manifest.

Dispensationalism clouds the basics, as you demonstrate above.
You can read all you want, but please get back to the basics.

 

[heir]

The gospel (ONE GOSPEL) is simply that the kingdom of God is presented to mankind.

Gospel of the kingdom of God.
Peace between God and man forever. Gospel of peace.
Faith in Christ is the way into the kingdom. Gospel of Christ.
God is the one by whom it is possible. Gospel of God.
The gospel is made available by the grace of God. Gospel of the grace of God.


Madists want to divide the one gospel up because they want to be associated with a fabricated gospel where the terms and conditions are more favorable to the flesh. They hate things like repentance, and want to off load it onto other people who are offered a much lesser, and much more challenging gospel.

Nope. Its one gospel for all.

Matthew 24:14 "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

They hate it.

The gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of God and the gospel of God is not the gospel of Christ. You need to study.

 

[andyc]

The gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of God and the gospel of God is not the gospel of Christ. You need to study.

You could sit at your computer all night, and never able to explain from scripture why the gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of God.

No study in the world would lead a person to that stupid conclusion. You simply want to believe it because it's convenient to you.

 

[heir]

The gospel (ONE GOSPEL) is simply that the kingdom of God is presented to mankind.

There is no such term in the Bible. You made it up!

Ephesians 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

Ephesians 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

Ephesians 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Nope! No "one Gospel" as you say! Paul, our apostle, who lists the seven "one"s of the unity of the Spirit never used the term! If there has only ever been one gospel, Paul, moved by the Holy Ghost would have spake it!

 

[heir]

You could sit at your computer all night, and never able to explain from scripture why the gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of God.

No study in the world would lead a person to that stupid conclusion. You simply want to believe it because it's convenient to you.

The gospel of God includes the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead with power (Romans 1:1-4 KJV) yet the gospel of the kingdom does not include the resurrection of Jesus Christ as He had not yet died and been resurrected when the gospel of the kingdom was preached.

Your so befuddled from your denomination you can't see straight.

 

[heir]

You could sit at your computer all night, and never able to explain from scripture why the gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of God.

No study in the world would lead a person to that stupid conclusion. You simply want to believe it because it's convenient to you.

Neither the gospel of the kingdom nor the gospel of God is the gospel of Christ, the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth! When did you trust the Lord believing the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation?

 

[andyc]

There is no such term in the Bible. You made it up!

Ephesians 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

Ephesians 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

Ephesians 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Nope! No "one Gospel" as you say! Paul, our apostle, who lists the seven "one"s of the unity of the Spirit never used the term! If there has only ever been one gospel, Paul, moved by the Holy Ghost would have spake it!

All of the above is summed up with the understanding that there is one gospel. One hope, one faith, one baptism. Why?
Because there's one gospel :doh:

 

[Interplanner]

They are all one thing, heir. It isn't determined by your experience; that will just lead to particularization and individualization. Stick to 'Christ is our righteousness.' Rom 10:4.

 

[Interplanner]

There is an anathema from Paul against any other. That's enough reason to accept just one.

 

[heir]

All of the above is summed up with the understanding that there is one gospel. One hope, one faith, one baptism. Why?
Because there's one gospel :doh:

Nope. That's you reading your regurgitation into the text. Presently there is only "one gospel", but here were two at the same time:

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;


And are you next to argue that there has only ever been one baptism? How do you explain away all of the others?

 

[heir]

They are all one thing, heir.

Nope! May gospels in the Bible! Not all the same!

 

[patrick jane]

All of the above is summed up with the understanding that there is one gospel. One hope, one faith, one baptism. Why?
Because there's one gospel :doh:

only 1 piece of good news ? where's john w when we need him - :deadhorse:

 

[heir]

There is an anathema from Paul against any other. That's enough reason to accept just one.

Only if preached "unto" us ("unto you") any "other gospel" than that which he had preached unto us (specifically at that time, the Galatians and us by extension) including even an angel from heaven preaching an other gospel! "Unto you" is key to Galatians 1:8-9!

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 

[God's Truth]

only 1 piece of good news ? where's john w when we need him - :deadhorse:

Jesus is the Good News. Mark 1:1.

Jesus is the Good News when he came and preached, and he is the same Good News when Paul preached about him.

 

[heir]

Jesus is the Good News. Mark 1:1.

Jesus is the Good News when he came and preached, and he is the same Good News when Paul preached about him.

The fact of who He is, is not the good news of the why of the cross.

 

[Nick M]

Be Blessed is a Future Tense verb and is in the Greek FUTURE TENSES , so much for the PRETERIST view , There is a lot more in that verse , like God's Foreknowledge His sovereignty !!

Thanks Dan. I like this because it shows the English is true.