Have you been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ?

Robert Pate

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If Jesus has already reconciled us and the world unto God then what good is Calvinism, Catholicism or any religion? The Gospel of reconciliation makes all doctrines and religions worthless.

"And all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ and has given unto us the ministry of reconciliation. To wit that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the word of reconciliation" 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

The word or ministry of reconciliation is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is the preaching of the Gospel that brings people to Christ and reconciles them to God.

Reconciliation is a two way street. Just because you have been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ does not mean that you are saved. God has extended his hand of forgiveness to all who will receive his Son Jesus Christ as their savior. To reject Christ is to reject God's offer of reconciliation. Nothing is ours until it is received by faith, John 1:12.

HOW JESUS HAS RECONCILED US AND THE WORLD UNTO GOD.

In the Gospel Jesus comes into the world as God's new Adam and our new humanity. The old Adamic humanity was put to death in Jesus Christ, Romans 6:6. Jesus's mission is to do for us that which we cannot do for ourselves because we are sinners, Romans 3:23. God does not accept the works or the obedience of sinners. Jesus in our name and on our behalf fulfills every jot and tittle of God's Holy Law, Matthew 5:18, It was the life of Christ that was lived for our justification, Romans 3:26.

As wonderful as that is, it was not enough. Something had to be done about our sins and the sins of the whole world. Jesus took our sins and the sins of the whole world upon himself and atoned for them, 1 John 2:2. As far as God is concerned sin, death and the devil have been destroyed. Jesus now sits in heaven as the, "King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16. ALL THINGS have been reconciled unto God by his Son Jesus Christ.

"And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile ALL THINGS unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in the earth, or things in heaven" Colossians 1:20.

God now sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ. Jesus is our new representative humanity, 2 Corinthians 5:17. This is indeed a sad thing for Calvinist, Catholics and others that are trying to be reconciled unto God by some other way than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Your religion has been destroyed by the reconciling power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you want to be saved, believe in and call on the name of the Lord and you shall be saved. Romans 10:13.
 

Prison.Charlie

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If Jesus has already reconciled us and the world unto God then what good is Calvinism, Catholicism or any religion? The Gospel of reconciliation makes all doctrines and religions worthless.

"And all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ and has given unto us the ministry of reconciliation. To wit that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the word of reconciliation" 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

The word or ministry of reconciliation is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is the preaching of the Gospel that brings people to Christ and reconciles them to God.

Reconciliation is a two way street. Just because you have been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ does not mean that you are saved. God has extended his hand of forgiveness to all who will receive his Son Jesus Christ as their savior. To reject Christ is to reject God's offer of reconciliation. Nothing is ours until it is received by faith, John 1:12.

HOW JESUS HAS RECONCILED US AND THE WORLD UNTO GOD.

In the Gospel Jesus comes into the world as God's new Adam and our new humanity. The old Adamic humanity was put to death in Jesus Christ, Romans 6:6. Jesus's mission is to do for us that which we cannot do for ourselves because we are sinners, Romans 3:23. God does not accept the works or the obedience of sinners. Jesus in our name and on our behalf fulfills every jot and tittle of God's Holy Law, Matthew 5:18, It was the life of Christ that was lived for our justification, Romans 3:26.

As wonderful as that is, it was not enough. Something had to be done about our sins and the sins of the whole world. Jesus took our sins and the sins of the whole world upon himself and atoned for them, 1 John 2:2. As far as God is concerned sin, death and the devil have been destroyed. Jesus now sits in heaven as the, "King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16. ALL THINGS have been reconciled unto God by his Son Jesus Christ.

"And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile ALL THINGS unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in the earth, or things in heaven" Colossians 1:20.

God now sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ. Jesus is our new representative humanity, 2 Corinthians 5:17. This is indeed a sad thing for Calvinist, Catholics and others that are trying to be reconciled unto God by some other way than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Your religion has been destroyed by the reconciling power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you want to be saved, believe in and call on the name of the Lord and you shall be saved. Romans 10:13.

John 1:47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming toward him and said of him, “Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom there is no deceit
 

God's Truth

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If Jesus has already reconciled us and the world unto God then what good is Calvinism, Catholicism or any religion? The Gospel of reconciliation makes all doctrines and religions worthless.

"And all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ and has given unto us the ministry of reconciliation. To wit that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the word of reconciliation" 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

The word or ministry of reconciliation is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is the preaching of the Gospel that brings people to Christ and reconciles them to God.

Reconciliation is a two way street. Just because you have been reconciled unto God by Jesus Christ does not mean that you are saved. God has extended his hand of forgiveness to all who will receive his Son Jesus Christ as their savior. To reject Christ is to reject God's offer of reconciliation. Nothing is ours until it is received by faith, John 1:12.

HOW JESUS HAS RECONCILED US AND THE WORLD UNTO GOD.

In the Gospel Jesus comes into the world as God's new Adam and our new humanity. The old Adamic humanity was put to death in Jesus Christ, Romans 6:6. Jesus's mission is to do for us that which we cannot do for ourselves because we are sinners, Romans 3:23. God does not accept the works or the obedience of sinners. Jesus in our name and on our behalf fulfills every jot and tittle of God's Holy Law, Matthew 5:18, It was the life of Christ that was lived for our justification, Romans 3:26.

As wonderful as that is, it was not enough. Something had to be done about our sins and the sins of the whole world. Jesus took our sins and the sins of the whole world upon himself and atoned for them, 1 John 2:2. As far as God is concerned sin, death and the devil have been destroyed. Jesus now sits in heaven as the, "King of Kings and the Lord of Lords" Revelation 19:16. ALL THINGS have been reconciled unto God by his Son Jesus Christ.

"And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile ALL THINGS unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in the earth, or things in heaven" Colossians 1:20.

God now sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ. Jesus is our new representative humanity, 2 Corinthians 5:17. This is indeed a sad thing for Calvinist, Catholics and others that are trying to be reconciled unto God by some other way than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Your religion has been destroyed by the reconciling power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you want to be saved, believe in and call on the name of the Lord and you shall be saved. Romans 10:13.

You said God does not accept the obedience of sinners. You are so wrong. What false teacher did you get that from?

That is a huge untruth about God's Word, God's Word who says become like a little child, and repent or perish.
 

Nanja

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Psalms 14:2-3

2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
 

Robert Pate

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Psalms 14:2-3

2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.


There was one that did good.

Jesus in our name and on our behalf pleased God.
 

God's Truth

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Psalms 14:2-3

2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Paul is quoting Psalm14:1-3; 53:1-3; and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Ecclesiastes SAYS there is not a RIGHTEOUS man who does what is right and NEVER SINS. Ecclesiastes tells us that there ARE RIGHTEOUS men but none who NEVER sin. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinners just like the Gentiles. Nowhere in these passages or scriptures anywhere does it say none can believe on their own. In this same Ecclesiastes 7, Solomon tells us about wise men, righteous men, and about a man who pleases God. Solomon also tells us that he found one upright man among a thousand. The Bible tells us that there are people who want to do right.
 

Robert Pate

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You said God does not accept the obedience of sinners. You are so wrong. What false teacher did you get that from?

That is a huge untruth about God's Word, God's Word who says become like a little child, and repent or perish.


You are going to be in for a shock when you stand before God in the judgment in your sins.
 

Robert Pate

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It is not sinful to come to God through Jesus to be saved and repent and do what he says.

Are you like Right Divider and not born again too?


I don't believe that you have ever come to Christ as a repentant sinner to be saved by him. If you did you would have the Holy Spirit that convicts of sin.
 

God's Truth

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I don't believe that you have ever come to Christ as a repentant sinner to be saved by him. If you did you would have the Holy Spirit that convicts of sin.

You don't even know what that means, so pathetic.

Now just answer the question, are you born again?
 

Robert Pate

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You don't even know what that means, so pathetic.

Now just answer the question, are you born again?


I have been born again by the word of God, which is the Gospel, 1 Peter 1:23.

You don't even know what the Gospel is, therefore, you have not been born again.
 

beloved57

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I have been born again by the word of God, which is the Gospel, 1 Peter 1:23.

You don't even know what the Gospel is, therefore, you have not been born again.

Both of you deny the Gospel, neither of you have Faith in Christ's Blood since you both believe that sinners He shed His Blood for are lost and condemned. Thats contrary to the Gospel !
 

beloved57

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Psalms 14:2-3

2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Except pate !
 

Nanja

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Except pate !


Right, he like many others think they've done good, having covered all their religious bases
by their own believing, receiving, repenting, calling, obeying, etc.


But they can't comprehend the fact that the natural man [not Born of the Spirit] cannot please God Rom. 8:8; Is. 64:6!


1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because they are spiritually discerned.
 

Nanja

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You teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost and condemned. So according to you He didnt please God quite good enough in their name and behalf !


That's exactly what pate teaches: That those Christ died for still end up being punished by God for their sins and thrown into the lake of fire, which makes God unjust, because those He died for had no sin debt before God Gal. 3:13; Rom. 7:4; 1 Pet. 2:24.
 

Bright Raven

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That's exactly what pate teaches: That those Christ died for still end up being punished by God for their sins and thrown into the lake of fire, which makes God unjust, because those He died for had no sin debt before God Gal. 3:13; Rom. 7:4; 1 Pet. 2:24.
You haven't for you don't believe;

1 John 2:2 New International Version (NIV)

2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.


Actually Pate has it right.
 
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