Guilt-What To Do With It

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GUILT--YOU MUST BE GUILTY TO FIND MERCY

You need to know how to handle guilt. Because to get to the truth in the Word. You will go through lots of guilt(emotional). The devil is always there to tell you" it doesnt mean that". And yet God tells you that you must believe it. If you believe it you will repent of it. If you repent of it you are forgiven. If you lie to yourself and dont repent, you will be charged with it. And bear a chastizement.

Rom 3:21-23
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Heb 4:1
1 Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it.
Matt 23:29-35
29 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous,
30 "and say, 'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.'
31 "Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.
32 "Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers' guilt.
33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?
34 "Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city,
35 "that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
Rom 3:19
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
James 2:10-12
10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For He who said, "Do not commit adultery," also said, "Do not murder." Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.
12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.
1 Cor 11:27-28
27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
2 Cor 7:8-11
8 For even if I made you sorry with my letter, I do not regret it; though I did regret it. For I perceive that the same epistle made you sorry, though only for a while.
9 Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing.
10 For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death.
11 For observe this very thing, that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter.
John 16:7-14
7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 "of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 "of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
11 "of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12 "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
Titus 1:10-11
10 For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,
11 whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.
Jude 1:14-15
14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints,
15 "to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."
I Jn 1:6-10
6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.
7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
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XXX You cant get rid of guilt by lieing to yourself. There are two kinds of guilt. The emotional kind which is an unclean spirit and there is the belief kind which we all must believe. Now what happens is this. When the Holy Spirit convicts you of a sin with a verse your unclean spirits overwhelms you with an emotion and then the devil lies to you. And says it doesnt mean that. But if you accept the belief the Holy Spirit can give you verses like Paul. And without guilt to motivate you into changing a belief, you will never do it on your own.

1 Tim 1:13
13 although I was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and an insolent man; but I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
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Which is the same thing you done. By repenting you can get rid of the emotion, and deal with the belief. The feeling of guilt is an unclean spirit. That looks for opportunities to rear his ugly head. And he does it every time you go against something you have believed. One feeling tells you that you should do something, another feeling stops you, then the feeling of guilt punishes you. But if your in the Holy Spirit and you have crucified your emotions with the truth that is in the Word of God. You can be guilty of something without a feeling. Because the Holy Spirit convicts you. If you can believe the Holy Spirit. You must learn to suffer with guilt, to find the truth.
 

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Remember this the emotion of guilt is an unclean spirit. And the more you give into unclean spirits the stronger they get. Just like the spirit of drunkenness the more you give into it the stronger it gets.
The only cure for guilt is repentance. And how many times a day can you repent and be forgiven?

Matt 18:21-22
21 Then Peter came to Him and said, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?"
22 Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.
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Are you honest with yourself and with God?

Rom 3:9-12
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
10 As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
11 There is none who understands; there is none who seeks after God.
12 They have all turned aside; they have together become unprofitable; there is none who does good, no, not one."
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Matt 19:17-24
17 So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."
18 He said to Him, "Which ones?" Jesus said," 'You shall not murder,' 'You shall not commit adultery,' 'You shall not steal,' 'You shall not bear false witness,'
19 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'"
20 The young man said to Him, "All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?"
21 Jesus said to him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 "And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
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There are only one of two ways to deal with guilt. Accept the truth and repent. Or lie to yourself


Rom 3:23
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
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James 4:14
14 whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away.
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1 Tim 1:13
13 although I was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and an insolent man; but I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
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Heb 10:26-27
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
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do you feel guilty about lying about the Holy Spirit?

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ROFLOL I know you know how to handle guilt. You just start lying and trying to turn your own guilt onto someone else. Why are you even talking you have absolutely no evidence about what you say. You just keep right on blaspheming the Holy Spirit. There is something really wrong with you. You don't even know the Holy Spirit and you want to dictate to someone else about the Holy Spirit.

Here is your god

2 Cor 11:13-15
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.
14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
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II Th 2:4-5
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
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This one seems to be hard for everyone. And it is actually the first step in Christianity.

Mark 1:15
15 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel."
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Matt 4:4
4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
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2 Cor 10:3-5
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
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There are alot of stupid(foolish) questions and arguements in here. If you were baking bread, there are many parts to baking bread. If you leave out one principle of the ingrediance you will not have bread in the end. You must desolve the yeast in the flower and need the dough. You cant have bread if you forget the yeast. You cant have bread if you leave out the needing of the dough. You can need the dough and not let the yeast rise and you won't have bread.
The ingrediance for a Christian works on the same theory. If you leave out one ingrediance you will have a Christian that has fallen short, or been disqualified, or has fallen from grace. To be born again one must crucify the flesh with all its emotions and feelings..To be a Christian one must have faith. To be a Christian one must have the works. To be a Christian one must learn what love is, and then exercise it. Most in here cant even define love according to scripture moreless exercise it. There is a milk understanding of the Word. Faith only disciple. The works takes one into the meat understanding. But one can still fall short there or be disqualified. No one is born again until they make it through the meat understanding. But they must get through the meat understanding to come to the revelations of Jesus Christ. Which is when one is born again. All things become new. And Jesus rewrites their conscience(book of beliefs). when they have brought every thought in their mind to the obedience of Christ. From what I have seen all denominations are teaching the milk understanding. How many of you people know the Holy Spirit only quotes verses? How many of you know that the Holy Spirit will never work through your emotions? How many of you know how your mind works? You call it thinking, the Word calls it, listening to the opinions of all the spirits that are in you? How many of you know the devil is always present in your thinking? How many of you know that your emotions always push you towards the devil? When your thinking your taking the opinions from your guardian angel, and from the devil. The Holy Spirit gently gives you a verse showing you which opinion(thought) is from your guardian angel and which is from the devil. That is your choice on which one you accept. You are the inner man. The inner man is your spirit and soul. Your spirit is the mind of your inner man which makes the choice, your soul is the body of your inner man where your affections come from. Affections are feelings with no desires. Emotions over run your affections, and the devil over runs your guardian angel. If you have faith in God, and in Jesus, and in the Holy Spirit you will use that faith(spiritual strength) to resist your emotions and the devil. And if you cant resist enough or your faith is to weak, you have repentance to fall back on.

Eph 6:11-17
11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;
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There are alot of stupid(foolish) questions and arguements in here. If you were baking bread, there are many parts to baking bread. If you leave out one principle of the ingrediance you will not have bread in the end. You must desolve the yeast in the flower and need the dough. You cant have bread if you forget the yeast. You cant have bread if you leave out the needing of the dough. You can need the dough and not let the yeast rise and you won't have bread.
The ingrediance for a Christian works on the same theory. If you leave out one ingrediance you will have a Christian that has fallen short, or been disqualified, or has fallen from grace. (NKJ)

So you said in one of your last parts you were on here to learn from others, so I hope you don't go tell me I don't know what I'm talking about just because I am saying something you may not agree with. Because that is not going to get you to learn and definitely not have anyone want to learn from you. So before you go calling other peoples logic and walk in the Christin faith "stupid" lets just see how maybe someone else could feel the same about what you are saying because it is different from theirs.
So you said above.. There are ingredients to a Christian and if you don't have one step then you don't get a good ending or something like that.
But I hope that you will re-evaluate your "revelations" because I want to point out for you how your "revelation" is wrong right from the get go.
The FIRST :ingredient: in baking bread - your example - is YEAST. And then you say that if you don't have yeast you can't make bread...but that's where your argument falls apart right from the start.
In the Old Testament, one of the most important stories in the history of the Israelites was the fact that they ate UNLEAVENED BREAD. and were COMMANDED to do in remembrance of the time they had to flee from Egypt where God saved them from their slavery! it is called PASSOVER.
If you don't know... UNLEAVENED BREAD is made WITHOUT YEAST. So I think your argument falls apart from the very beginning and after that the rest of your "revelation" does not make sense. You see why you need to look at these "revelations" you get, because maybe YOUR bread needs yeast for your own spiritual walk, in fact others DO NOT need yeast for their spiritual walk!
There is no set "ingredients" for Christianity as the Bible very well shows.
Deuteronomy 16:3
Exodus 12:8, 29:2
and Numbers 9:11
 

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So you said in one of your last parts you were on here to learn from others, so I hope you don't go tell me I don't know what I'm talking about just because I am saying something you may not agree with. Because that is not going to get you to learn and definitely not have anyone want to learn from you. So before you go calling other peoples logic and walk in the Christin faith "stupid" lets just see how maybe someone else could feel the same about what you are saying because it is different from theirs.
So you said above.. There are ingredients to a Christian and if you don't have one step then you don't get a good ending or something like that.
But I hope that you will re-evaluate your "revelations" because I want to point out for you how your "revelation" is wrong right from the get go.
The FIRST :ingredient: in baking bread - your example - is YEAST. And then you say that if you don't have yeast you can't make bread...but that's where your argument falls apart right from the start.
In the Old Testament, one of the most important stories in the history of the Israelites was the fact that they ate UNLEAVENED BREAD. and were COMMANDED to do in remembrance of the time they had to flee from Egypt where God saved them from their slavery! it is called PASSOVER.
If you don't know... UNLEAVENED BREAD is made WITHOUT YEAST. So I think your argument falls apart from the very beginning and after that the rest of your "revelation" does not make sense. You see why you need to look at these "revelations" you get, because maybe YOUR bread needs yeast for your own spiritual walk, in fact others DO NOT need yeast for their spiritual walk!
There is no set "ingredients" for Christianity as the Bible very well shows.
Deuteronomy 16:3
Exodus 12:8, 29:2
and Numbers 9:11
Good post !!!
 

Tnkrbl123!

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Also the Holy Spirit DOES NOT LIE. And the HOly Spirit knows all about Passover and the feast of the UNLEAVENED BREAD. So the Holy Spirit would never give you a "revelation" that is a lie. But this "revelation" you have received clearly is not from the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit would never tell you that you NEED YEAST to make bread when He in fact ordered the Israelites NOT TO USE YEAST to MAKE THEIR BREAD...... This is why I lovingly tell you to re-evaluate your "revelations"
 

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Also the Holy Spirit DOES NOT LIE. And the HOly Spirit knows all about Passover and the feast of the UNLEAVENED BREAD. So the Holy Spirit would never give you a "revelation" that is a lie. But this "revelation" you have received clearly is not from the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit would never tell you that you NEED YEAST to make bread when He in fact ordered the Israelites NOT TO USE YEAST to MAKE THEIR BREAD...... This is why I lovingly tell you to re-evaluate your "revelations"


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ROFLOL That was a stupid example that I used wasn't it. I'm really not very good with the carnal examples. I think I should stick with the Holy Spirit. I can see your point now. Thanks for the help.
 

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ROFLOL Now I have no idea of what happened. But I would give a nickel to anyone who could tell me what happen to all my hecklers. They have been there for years and all of a sudden they just stopped. Its like a rash just stopped with no medicine.
 

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My guilt was nailed to the cross. And I have to say, it feels wonderful.
 
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