ECT Grace is unconditional but not universal

[Grosnick Marowbe]

CR and Nang make for a good "Tag team."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

How do you know I'm not?

Well. since there's no such thing as a "Calvinist Elect" I would say, you're not one of the so-called Calvinist Elect simply because there's no such thing. A person is either in the Body of Christ or they are not. Are you in the Body of Christ or not?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Make no mistake about it, Calvinism is a false doctrine and a false gospel. It is, "Anti-Biblical."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Pentecostalism has brought forth some strange false beliefs in the last couple of decades as well. That's for CRs benefit that I say that.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

The Apostle Paul didn't want the Gospel to become corrupted with false doctrines and deviations. Both Calvinism and Pentecostalism, etc, have done just that.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I consider ANY deviation from the Grace Gospel as preached by Paul as being "Another gospel."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

The floor is yours.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

How do you KNOW you're one of the Elect Nang?

She cannot know until/unless she perseveres unto the end.

 

[Cross Reference]

The above proves, that God has saved men by grace, since the beginning. These men were part of the Godly lineage that were given the Gospel promise of the "Seed" who would remedy the tragedy of sin, and they were gifted by God, with power and faith to believe in the message . . . Just the same as NT saints!

Sorry, Nang. It proves God saved by obedience from the freewill He created them with. Fallen man was doing pretty good in that regard until he met and took to himself the "daughters of men" who received no such spiritual training from God which would have been passed through to them by their own fathers. Their function alone was to be a help mate to the man they married. There non-knowledge of Godly influence and sexual attraction upon spiritual man took its toll and the end was Noah's flood. Read the account from Gen. 6:1ff KJV

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

She cannot know until/unless she perseveres unto the end.

That's right. Do ya think she's ahead of the game or falling behind?

 

[Cross Reference]

Pentecostalism has brought forth some strange false beliefs in the last couple of decades as well. That's for CRs benefit that I say that.

Nothing from you can profit anyone. You simply need to listen and not speak.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I'll say one thing about Nang, she sure is grouchy/cranky most of the time. Good for her.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Nothing from you can profit anyone. You simply need to listen and not speak.

You really need to learn how to use "Spell check."

 

[Cross Reference]

You need to get saved

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You need to get saved

Whoa! Is that the best you can come up with? You are quite the "Wordsmith." Did you know that?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Next CR will tell me I'm ugly and smell bad.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

CR, since you like to use name calling so much, do you having anything bad to say about my family? :rotfl:

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

CR is one angry Pentecostal. Yikes!

 

[Eagles Wings]

Well. since there's no such thing as a "Calvinist Elect" I would say, you're not one of the so-called Calvinist Elect simply because there's no such thing. A person is either in the Body of Christ or they are not. Are you in the Body of Christ or not?

The elect of God are those who truly trust in Jesus alone for salvation. So, saving faith is evidence of election. Has nothing to do with Calvin, Luther, Gottshalk, Melanchthon, Augustine, although they did teach this.

Election, saving faith, is a holy (wholly) gift of God.



Ephesians 2:8-9

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

The elect of God are those who truly trust in Jesus alone for salvation. So, saving faith is evidence of election. Has nothing to do with Calvin, Luther, Gottshalk, Melachton, although they did teach this.

Election, saving faith, is a holy (wholly) gift of God.



Ephesians 2:8-9

God created humanity with a free-will. You're wrong. Calvinism is wrong. Therefore, you are both wrong.