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Because you're in the vortex of a time-based false argument superimposed upon the timeless God.
You mean we are. Why don't you just say you haven't the answer either. It's no shame.
Because you're in the vortex of a time-based false argument superimposed upon the timeless God.
No, this is not my message.
My message is, God must resurrect souls from death, in order for them to live in a spiritual capacity (repentance & faith).
" . . Most assuredly I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." John 3:3b
" . . You must be born again. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit." John 3:7b-8b
Regeneration and the gifting of faith from God, is part of the "draw." Point being (unless you want to adopt the Pelagian heresy) dead men have no faith or love for God abiding within. Their hearts are stone cold and hard. Regeneration that changes and quickens the heart with faith to love God anew, is necessary. And Jesus quickens whom He wills. John 5:21
Yes it does. And those condemned, unbelieving folk do not want salvation. Read John 3:18-20
Because you're in the vortex of a time-based false argument superimposed upon the timeless God.
Regeneration and the gifting of faith from God, is part of the "draw." Point being (unless you want to adopt the Pelagian heresy) dead men have no faith or love for God abiding within. Their hearts are stone cold and hard. Regeneration that changes and quickens the heart with faith to love God anew, is necessary. And Jesus quickens whom He wills. John 5:21
I want to know, aside from the penetcostal gift of the faith of the son OF God Paul wrote of in Gal 2:20 KJV He lived by, where can you point to from scripture, faith is a gift of God.
It's a bit odd that you use Scripture that was pertaining to the House of Israel. Pre-cross, as well. Christ had not yet gone to the cross. The Kingdom message was being taught, as well. Can you explain yourself here?
I want to know, aside from the penetcostal gift of the faith of the son OF God Paul wrote of in Gal 2:20 KJV He lived by, where can you point to from scripture, faith is a gift of God.
Too numerous for one post, for all the Scriptures pertaining to the depravity of mankind, reveal Adam and his descendents possess no love for God nor faith in God. Faith in God is a virtue and totally depraved sinners are not virtuous at all.
Plus, if you do a word study of "faith" you will see numerous mentions of the "faith OF Christ" much more often that mentions of "faith IN Christ."
It is the faith OF Christ and His righteousness, that is imputed to the account of the pardoned sinner.
You mean we are. Why don't you just say you haven't the answer either. It's no shame.
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Who are the children of the promise?
Faith in God is a virtue
Rather, works of the law are virtuous:
Mat 23:23
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness.
Faith is contrasted as being anything but works righteousness: Romans 4:1-4
So faith is not virtue - and would seem to be morally neutral.
I DO have the answer.
Jesus died for the sins OF the whole world. He didn't die for the whole world. It's about WHAT He died for, not WHO He died for. And that "what" is a noun that is a void as a "somethinglessness".
Not completely correct. He died to rescue the Divine plan that originated in the Mind of His Father for having created man in the first place. The
You admit mankind being depraved, but you do not go so far as to admit that this depravity corrupts and kills. Unregenerated men walk this earth as spiritually dead men. They live their entire lives facing an imposed death sentence.
Christ lifted Himself up on the cross as a substitutional offering to pay that death sentence for all those God chooses to justify and pardon.
Everyone is approaching this from subtly incorrect modern perspectives based upon erroneous default English concepts.
It is great to hear you have read similar commentaries before. However, your logic as awry: it is your onus to prove your doctrine. People don't have to avoid it. I don't read the Bible to avoid having to confront your doctrine. I read it to be blessed by the Spirit. If you want to make some kind of teaching then you have to prove it. A thing you have always failed to do.I have read similar commentaries on Romans 9 that you are parroting, with the intent to avoid the doctrine of Unconditional Election, but such fail. Jacob and Esau, without a doubt contrast the elect to the reprobate, as determined by God alone:
" . . That the purpose of God according to election might stand; not of works but of Him who calls." Romans 9:11b
So let me get this right: you are saying that
a) Christ died for all the sins of all the people who have ever lived or will ever live.
b) As a) above but add in sins committed by non-humans and/or non-sentient things.
c} Christ died for the sins committed by the 'world' in general but not some sins and/or not the sins of some individuals.
d) Sin is not imputed to the individuals who commit it but only to the entity known as the world. Christ died for this sin but not for the sin of individuals.
e) Sin is a void concept, so the whole argument has no merit?
Apart from your goodself no doubt.
If you had any idea what sin is I could answer whatever it is you're attempting to ask.
I'm willing to listen.
As it happens, I do have an idea of what sin is. So now can you answer my question?
Nobody knows according to PPS and if you push him he will ignore youAs it happens, I do have an idea of what sin is. So now can you answer my question?