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WatchmanOnTheWall
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You are adding the word Sabbath into some of those texts to fit with what you believe rather than what the Word of God says:
Lev 23
38These offerings are in addition to those for the Lord’s Sabbaths and in addition to your gifts and whatever you have vowed and all the freewill offerings you give to the Lord.)
Read all of Leviticus 23 in context and you will see that is what you are doing:
Leviticus 23
The Appointed Festivals
1The Lord said to Moses, 2“Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘These are my appointed festivals, the appointed festivals of the Lord, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies.
The Sabbath
3“ ‘There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a sabbath to the Lord.
The Passover and the Festival of Unleavened Bread
4“ ‘These are the Lord’s appointed festivals, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times: 5The Lord’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. 6On the fifteenth day of that month the Lord’s Festival of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 8For seven days present a food offering to the Lord. And on the seventh day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.’ ”
Offering the Firstfruits
9The Lord said to Moses, 10“Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When you enter the land I am going to give you and you reap its harvest, bring to the priest a sheaf of the first grain you harvest. 11He is to wave the sheaf before the Lord so it will be accepted on your behalf; the priest is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath. 12On the day you wave the sheaf, you must sacrifice as a burnt offering to the Lord a lamb a year old without defect, 13together with its grain offering of two-tenths of an ephaha of the finest flour mixed with olive oil—a food offering presented to the Lord, a pleasing aroma—and its drink offering of a quarter of a hinb of wine. 14You must not eat any bread, or roasted or new grain, until the very day you bring this offering to your God. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live.
The Festival of Weeks
15“ ‘From the day after the Sabbath, the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, count off seven full weeks. 16Count off fifty days up to the day after the seventh Sabbath, and then present an offering of new grain to the Lord. 17From wherever you live, bring two loaves made of two-tenths of an ephah of the finest flour, baked with yeast, as a wave offering of firstfruits to the Lord. 18Present with this bread seven male lambs, each a year old and without defect, one young bull and two rams. They will be a burnt offering to the Lord, together with their grain offerings and drink offerings—a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord. 19Then sacrifice one male goat for a sin offeringc and two lambs, each a year old, for a fellowship offering. 20The priest is to wave the two lambs before the Lord as a wave offering, together with the bread of the firstfruits. They are a sacred offering to the Lord for the priest. 21On that same day you are to proclaim a sacred assembly and do no regular work. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live.
22“ ‘When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and for the foreigner residing among you. I am the Lord your God.’ ”
The Festival of Trumpets
23The Lord said to Moses, 24“Say to the Israelites: ‘On the first day of the seventh month you are to have a day of sabbath rest, a sacred assembly commemorated with trumpet blasts. 25Do no regular work, but present a food offering to the Lord.’ ”
The Day of Atonement
26The Lord said to Moses, 27“The tenth day of this seventh month is the Day of Atonement. Hold a sacred assembly and deny yourselves,d and present a food offering to the Lord. 28Do not do any work on that day, because it is the Day of Atonement, when atonement is made for you before the Lord your God. 29Those who do not deny themselves on that day must be cut off from their people. 30I will destroy from among their people anyone who does any work on that day. 31You shall do no work at all. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live. 32It is a day of sabbath rest for you, and you must deny yourselves. From the evening of the ninth day of the month until the following evening you are to observe your sabbath.”
The Festival of Tabernacles
33The Lord said to Moses, 34“Say to the Israelites: ‘On the fifteenth day of the seventh month the Lord’s Festival of Tabernacles begins, and it lasts for seven days. 35The first day is a sacred assembly; do no regular work. 36For seven days present food offerings to the Lord, and on the eighth day hold a sacred assembly and present a food offering to the Lord. It is the closing special assembly; do no regular work.
37(“ ‘These are the Lord’s appointed festivals, which you are to proclaim as sacred assemblies for bringing food offerings to the Lord—the burnt offerings and grain offerings, sacrifices and drink offerings required for each day. 38These offerings are in addition to those for the Lord’s Sabbaths and in addition to your gifts and whatever you have vowed and all the freewill offerings you give to the Lord.)
39“ ‘So beginning with the fifteenth day of the seventh month, after you have gathered the crops of the land, celebrate the festival to the Lord for seven days; the first day is a day of sabbath rest, and the eighth day also is a day of sabbath rest. 40On the first day you are to take branches from luxuriant trees—from palms, willows and other leafy trees—and rejoice before the Lord your God for seven days. 41Celebrate this as a festival to the Lord for seven days each year. This is to be a lasting ordinance for the generations to come; celebrate it in the seventh month. 42Live in temporary shelters for seven days: All native-born Israelites are to live in such shelters 43so your descendants will know that I had the Israelites live in temporary shelters when I brought them out of Egypt. I am the Lord your God.’ ”
44So Moses announced to the Israelites the appointed festivals of the Lord.
What is a holy convocation?
WatchmanOnTheWall
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A Holy Convocation, also known as a Holy Assembly was a day that was most solemn when no regular, or servile, or ordinary, or laborious work was done.
Leviticus 23:7 ►
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work.
New Living Translation
On the first day of the festival, all the people must stop their ordinary work and observe an official day for holy assembly.
English Standard Version
On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall not do any ordinary work.
New American Standard Bible
'On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall not do any laborious work.
King James Bible
In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
On the first day you are to hold a sacred assembly; you are not to do any daily work.
International Standard Version
On the first day that you hold the sacred assembly, you are to do no servile work.
NET Bible
On the first day there will be a holy assembly for you; you must not do any regular work.
New Heart English Bible
In the first day you shall have a holy convocation. You shall do no regular work.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
On the first day there will be a holy assembly. Don't do any regular work.
JPS Tanakh 1917
In the first day ye shall have a holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work.
New American Standard 1977
‘On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall not do any laborious work.
Jubilee Bible 2000
The first day ye shall have a holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work therein.
King James 2000 Bible
In the first day you shall have a holy convocation: you shall do no regular work on it.
American King James Version
In the first day you shall have an holy convocation: you shall do no servile work therein.
American Standard Version
In the first day ye shall have a holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work.
Douay-Rheims Bible
The first day shall be most solemn unto you, and holy: you shall do no servile work therein:
Darby Bible Translation
On the first day ye shall have a holy convocation: no manner of servile work shall ye do.
English Revised Version
In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work.
Webster's Bible Translation
In the first day ye shall have a holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work in it.
World English Bible
In the first day you shall have a holy convocation. You shall do no regular work.
Young's Literal Translation
on the first day ye have a holy convocation, ye do no servile work;
6944. qodesh ►
Strong's Concordance
qodesh: apartness, sacredness
Original Word: קֹ֫דֶשׁ
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: qodesh
Phonetic Spelling: (ko'-desh)
Short Definition: holy
4744. miqra ►
Strong's Concordance
miqra: a convocation, convoking, reading
Original Word: מִקְרָא
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: miqra
Phonetic Spelling: (mik-raw')
Short Definition: convocation
A Sabbath is day of complete rest when no work of any kind could be done and a holy convocation, or sacred assembly also took place.
New International Version
"'There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a sabbath to the LORD.
New Living Translation
"You have six days each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath day of complete rest, an official day for holy assembly. It is the LORD's Sabbath day, and it must be observed wherever you live.
English Standard Version
“Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work. It is a Sabbath to the LORD in all your dwelling places.
New American Standard Bible
'For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, a holy convocation. You shall not do any work; it is a sabbath to the LORD in all your dwellings.
King James Bible
Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Work may be done for six days, but on the seventh day there must be a Sabbath of complete rest, a sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; it is a Sabbath to the LORD wherever you live."
International Standard Version
Six days you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a sacred assembly. You are not to do any work. It's a Sabbath to the LORD wherever you live.
NET Bible
"'Six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there must be a Sabbath of complete rest, a holy assembly. You must not do any work; it is a Sabbath to the LORD in all the places where you live.
New Heart English Bible
"'Six days shall work be done: but on the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation; you shall do no manner of work. It is a Sabbath to the LORD in all your dwellings.
JPS Tanakh 1917
Six days shall work be done; but on the seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of work; it is a sabbath unto the LORD in all your dwellings.
New American Standard 1977
‘For six days work may be done; but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, a holy convocation. You shall not do any work; it is a sabbath to the LORD in all your dwellings.
Jubilee Bible 2000
Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day shall be a sabbath of rest, a holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein; it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
King James 2000 Bible
Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, a holy convocation; you shall do no work on it: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
American King James Version
Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; you shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
American Standard Version
Six days shall work be done: but on the seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of work: it is a sabbath unto Jehovah in all your dwellings.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Six days shall ye do work: the seventh day, because it is the rest of the sabbath, shall be called holy. You shall do no work on that day: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your habitations.
Darby Bible Translation
Six days shall work be done; but on the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, a holy convocation; no manner of work shall ye do: it is the sabbath to Jehovah in all your dwellings.
English Revised Version
Six days shall work be done: but on the seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of work: it is a sabbath unto the LORD in all your dwellings.
Webster's Bible Translation
Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, a holy convocation: ye shall do no work in it: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
World English Bible
"'Six days shall work be done: but on the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation; you shall do no kind of work. It is a Sabbath to Yahweh in all your dwellings.
Young's Literal Translation
six days is work done, and in the seventh day is a sabbath of rest, a holy convocation; ye do no work; it is a sabbath to Jehovah in all your dwellings.
7676. shabbath ►
Strong's Concordance
shabbath: sabbath
Original Word: שַׁבָּת
Part of Speech: Noun
Transliteration: shabbath
Phonetic Spelling: (shab-bawth')
Short Definition: sabbath
WatchmanOnTheWall
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Excellent question
and one that many get confused about because of these verses and other reasons: Matthew 26:17
On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?"
Mark 14:12
On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, when it was customary to sacrifice the Passover lamb, Jesus' disciples asked him, "Where do you want us to go and make preparations for you to eat the Passover?"
Luke 22:7
Now the Festival of Unleavened Bread arrived, when the Passover lamb is sacrificed.
Jesus was crucified on the the 14th, the same day (and time) the lambs were being killed. Therefore we know from this (and other verses) that Jesus made the preparations for the Last Supper the day before on the 13th. The last supper was not the Passover meal. The Passover meal is prepared on the 14th and eaten after sunset on the 15th. The Last Supper was a separate feast taken by some Jews in recognition of Esther's last meal before she fasted the three days over Passover, before going to king Artaxerxes:
Esther 4:16
"Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. Do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. I and my attendants will fast as you do. When this is done, I will go to the king, even though it is against the law. And if I perish, I perish."
Esther fasted over Passover along with ALL the other Jews in Susa. I believe the Essenes celebrated this feast and partook in this fast and that the water carrier whom Jesus told the disciples to follow to the upper room was also an Essene, because carrying water was a woman's role but the Essenes were a male closed order and had to carry their own water.
NOW!! Mark and Luke however can make it sound like the Festival of Unleavened Bread was on the day that the lambs were sacrificed, but it does not say that in actual fact. Look at the Interlinear:
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/mark/14-12.htm
What it is merely mentioning is the fact that lambs are scarified on the Feast of Unleavened Bread, not that it was that actual day. See!
Therefore to answer your question; 'Was the first day of Unleavened Bread a Sabbath?' The answer is yes and no because it was on the 13th of Aviv from the time of Esther onwards but it was on the 15th originally which is a Sabbath.
From the time the Jews returned from Babylon the 13th was considered the first day of unleavened bread because of the celebration of Esther's last supper. However, this became less notable as Passover was reinstated and the first day of the feast of unleavened bread soon reverted to the 15th because that was what it had always been as it says it in Leviticus:
Leviticus 23:6
On the fifteenth day of that month the LORD's Festival of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast.
However, a remnant would continue to honour the feast and fast of Esther right up until Jesus' time. The Year Jesus died Jesus also took part in this feast and fast as He knew He would not be able to eat the Passover meal.
Esther Feast and Fast was a prophetic shadow picture that was fulfilled by Jesus. Jesus fasted over the same three days before going to God, just like Esther fasted before going to the King. (Jesus actually fulfilled 11 feasts and Holy Days and there is only 1 Feast left for Jesus to fulfil - Tabernacles).
However, not everyone has forgotten, look at the 13th to 15th on Torah Calendar where it says 'Original fast of Esther':
http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?PYM=Y30M1
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WatchmanOnTheWall
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Not that year because he was the fulfilment of the Passover lamb, which were being killed at the same time He was being crucified on the 14th Aviv.
The lambs were being slaughtered from 9am to 3pm. The last lamb to be killed was the one specially selected by the high priest himself back on day 10 Aviv (the day Jesus made his Triumphal entry) from the fields of Bethlehem. The same place Jesus was born.
Every year the high priest would kill this last lamb at 3pm and cry out; "It is finished" just when Jesus our true high priest (and king) was crying these same words in fulfilment of this prophetic feast.
The lambs were then all put into hundreds of ovens up on the temple mount. This had to be done before the sun set, just as Jesus also had to be put into the tomb before sunset.
I asked, "Did Jesus observe the Passover?
You said, "Not that year"
Jesus said, "With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer, for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God." (Luke 22:15)
The Passover will be fulfilled with the birth of the first born.
Jesus said he desired to eat the Passover. Did he?
You said, "Not that year"
Jesus said, "With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer, for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God." (Luke 22:15)
The Passover will be fulfilled with the birth of the first born.
Jesus said he desired to eat the Passover. Did he?
WatchmanOnTheWall
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The last Supper (the feast of Esther) was eaten with the Passover lambs a day early, therefore it was the Passover meal but just a day early from Passover night.
Does scripture say Jesus ate lamb for supper?
WatchmanOnTheWall
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No, I am surmising but it was not the 14th/15th when they sat down to eat the Last Supper, as Jesus was in the tomb by sunset on the 14th. It was required that the Israelite's chose a lamb on the 10th and I don't know of any reason why the Essenes would not have done this and at least eaten the Passover lamb early. They may not have eaten lamb. I am not dogmatic about that but I am instant that scripture shows the last supper was prepared on the 13th and they sat down to eat at sunset.
While the synoptic gospels say it was the Passover meal John's Gospel calls it the 'evening meal' and that it was before the Passover festival:
John 13
1 It was just before the Passover Festival. Jesus knew that the hour had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end. 2 The evening meal was in progress, and the devil had already prompted Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot, to betray Jesus. 3 Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God; 4 so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist. 5 After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him.
John's Gospel has by far the most detail about that night as he was right next Jesus at that meal; 5 chapters worth.
Did Jesus have the authority to establish a new Passover observance?
Is the NT Passover based on an animal or himself?
WatchmanOnTheWall
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The point of the Passover was not just a remembrance for the Israelite's of what God had done by setting them free from Pharaoh but was also a prophetic picture of the coming Messiah's death that would set mankind free from the bondage of sin. Jesus was not establishing a new Passover observance but was rather fulfilling the sacrificial law that the Passover lamb represented;
Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
It really is the OT Passover because by the time Jesus fulfilled the Passover feast we were now into NT times but the Passover is base on both the animal and Jesus the Messiah:
John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
"And as they were eating, Jesus took bread and blessed it and brake it, and gave it to the disciples and said, 'Take, eat, this is my body.' And he took the cup and gave thanks and gave it to them, saying, 'Drink ye all of it for this is my blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.'" (Matthew 26:26-28 KJV)
Jesus is the Passover for the first born.
WatchmanOnTheWall
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Yes, if you mean that the first born are the those who are born of the spirit, i.e. Born again Christians who are the first to enter Heaven as the first fruits of the harvest of mankind and that Jesus, as the Passover lamb, shed His blood which saves us, just as the Passover lambs blood save the Israelite's on the fist Passover.
I can agree with that connotation, if that is what you mean. I would also agree that Jesus was establishing a new covenant that superseded all the old covenants, and I agree that the Eucharist is a type of new Passover observance if that is what you meant?
WatchmanOnTheWall
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Yes Jesus is our example for us to accept the Holy Spirit as He did, so that we are then born of the Spirit.
Those born of the Spirit are no longer flesh. (John 3:6)
When was Jesus born of the Spirit?
WatchmanOnTheWall
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I said He accepted the Spirit (which was at His baptism) and those born of the Spirit still have flesh, at least until they die.