Ben Masada
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Think! I am sure! Don't you think it is high time for you guys to come to the conclusion that he is dead?
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Think! I am sure! Don't you think it is high time for you guys to come to the conclusion that he is dead?
Don't be silly Ben. We know him, his spirit is present in all spirit born believers. He is the creator of our world, both Lord and God.
Maybe it's you who should swallow the exaggerated pride of Judaism's bondage to traditionalism.
BTW, this is not a debate thread, if you want to debate further you should start another thread or go to "The Late Great Urantia Book" thread.
Jesus was indeed a Jew, he was born into Judaism. Your ancestors had been selected for a variety of reasons to host the Son of God incarnate on earth. But your ancestral holy men wrote a largely fictitious, traditional past which became "scripture", Gods Word. So you developed erroneous ideas about your place in the world, the coming Son and a massive nationalist egotism. You became self segregated as special.
Jesus' gospel was new, fresh, liberating and open to all men.
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In a sense you did...
"Whatever Moses wrote he wrote on his own accord, no dictation from God"
So was Moses lying when he said he was dictated to? Are other OT writers lying when they say as God commanded Him to write?
This is even how the OT ends with God himself speaking as now Malachi dictated-
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With ithe statutes and judgments.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
kBefore the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse."
So did Malachi lie? God Himself?
Moses was a prophet...being shown that which is not seen is exactly that...as is writing under direct divine dictation...
What Moses did not do was have control of how people interpret his inspired writings...just because Moses under inspiration wrote of Him did not mean Moses could dictate later generations to read of their messiah's appearing...
The Law itself was always open to all men...as the Sabbath commandment clearly taught...He affirmed this in His new fresh liberating gospel teaching the Sabbath was made for man...not just da Jews...(I know, hard to believe...especially when you talk to Jews or others who hate the Lord of the Sabbath-His Perfect law...)
One law for the Israelites and non natives...
His house of course, being a house of prayer for ALL nations...
Ben Masada
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The Tanach is all that we have from the beginning, through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and until our own days. They never had the slight idea about Jesus. Not about Jesus personally but about every Jew as part of the People whom the Lord called My Son. "Israel is My Son", said the Lord. (Exodus 4:22,23)
You have just acknowledged that Jesus was a Jew born in Judaism and now you say above that his gospel was new, fresh, liberating and open to all men. If you mean the NT, you better be certain that no Jew has the NT for his or her gospel. The gospel of Jesus was the Tanach; yes, open to all men but still the Tanach.
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Ben Masada
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Christian preconceived notions is what bondages you to its power to keep people on the leash. The reason why I am here it is because you are using a Jew to fight against his Faith which just happened to be the same as mine. Leave Jesus alone and I'll leave this forum just for you.
I'm not sure which parts Moese wrote and which part the redactors wrote and redacted. I don't belive God wrote ANY of the Bible books. I belive holy men wrote the Bible books, some were more holy than others.
You and your ansestors thought you were putting Jesus on trial, he was putting you on trial.
The religion of Judaism is evolved from an agreement that was in preparation for the arrival of Jesus and his revealed religion. Today the Jews are false prophets who remain marooned on the island of their old ideas.
The choice is yours...
Have faith...
Or make liars of those who said Moses did as God commanded...
I have never had faith in men.
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-we give thanks
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-hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name
-today is Sunday
-we put away our differences
-we give thanks
-we give praise
-we ask for forgiveness
-we ask for guidance
-we ask for help
-we do it together
-good night charity
-today is Sunday
-we put away our differences
-we give thanks
-we give praise
-we ask for forgiveness
-we ask for guidance
-we ask for help
-we do it together
-good night charity
-hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name
-today is Sunday
-we put away our differences
-we give thanks
-we give praise
-we ask for forgiveness
-we ask for guidance
-we ask for help
-we do it together
-good night charity
-today is Sunday
-we put away our differences
-we give thanks
-we give praise
-we ask for forgiveness
-we ask for guidance
-we ask for help
-we do it together
-good night charity
-hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name
-today is Sunday
-we put away our differences
-we give thanks
-we give praise
-we ask for forgiveness
-we ask for guidance
-we ask for help
-we do it together
-good night charity
-today is Sunday
-we put away our differences
-we give thanks
-we give praise
-we ask for forgiveness
-we ask for guidance
-we ask for help
-we do it together
-good night charity
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An alliance to hide the body of Mose's.. so no railing accusation would be bought against his body.. he was more than lightly beheaded in a battle while trying to Take back Israel..government's for you.. Obama trashed Osama's body and knocked off all the seals, shut their mouth's in one deathly helicopter crash..