Foundation.

[Truster]

It's true that you are not the only one to recognize those who are blind to rest, trust and the law of liberty.

It's not often that I find myself lost for words.

 

[ClimateSanity]

I'm not really bothered what you think of me, i don't believe anyone who teaches that we don't have to obey God. Your in a false church and you follow a false religion!

He never said he doesn't have to obey God.

 

[ClimateSanity]

No I'm forever in his, because without God and Christ is still be dead in my sins!

Your previous post puts God in your debt. Why else post it?

 

[ClimateSanity]

You are not speaking what the Bible says. Look at the scripture. Jesus says plainly that the one who obeys, he will love and reveal himself.

John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."

You just turned that scripture on its head.

 

[Truster]

Any particular verses?

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I've read it. Is there anything you want me to consider about John 3?


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You were asking about being born again or rather born above. Messiah explains why there is a need. I thought it might be of use, if not interest.

 

[ClimateSanity]

Can't you read what I plainly say and then figure it out?

You make no sense.

 

[ClimateSanity]

You have no idea of what the word commandment refers to in this verse. The word obey is also beyond your ken.

You read this verse as being a command to do something, while in actual fact, it is a statement of fact. That those found doing these things can rest assured they are loved. Not will be loved "if" they obey.

That's how the verse ought to be understood. The sin obsessed and in bondage person interprets her way.

 

[Truster]

Atheist. a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/atheist

Agnostic. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/agnostic

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These are the definitions I had in mind, as provided at dictionary.com. If you have other definitions in mind, then neither of us are wrong, we're just thinking different fruit.






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No dictionary would give you the correct translation of atheist.

 

[Eeset]

If you have nothing to contribute to this thread why don't you go and ask stupid questions elsewhere? Rhetorical?

Are you always cranky on Thursdays?

 

[Truster]

Are you always cranky on Thursdays?

I was asked by a nurse a couple of months ago if I was allergic to anything. I relied, "only gross stupidity and wilful ignorance".

I'm not cranky, it's an allergic reaction.

 

[ClimateSanity]

Yeah, yeah! Makes sense to me. Thanks!


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It's poisonous though. I know you don't realize that.

 

[ClimateSanity]

Says the false prophet who doesn't even believe that it's right to obey God!

False accuser

 

[ClimateSanity]

Thanks for sharing your testimony.


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Can you see he is saying God should look would favor upon him as a result?

 

[ClimateSanity]

I was an addict for 30 years. From the age of 13 to 43. I have been set at liberty from sin, judgment and therefore addiction.

To the praise of the glory of His grace.

I shall admit that I thought you were the age your sons must be, if not younger. My humble apologies for treating you as such.

Yes. Addiction is driven by bondage to sin and the resulting feeling of judgement.

 

[ClimateSanity]

So are you saying John's words, "God is love" actually mean God is loving (like a father who loves his kids no matter what is loving) and they don't mean love is God?


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Love is more than an action. It's a mindset.

 

[Truster]

Can you see he is saying God should look would favor upon him as a result?

I thought it was a she?

 

[ClimateSanity]

I thought is was a she?

Who knows

 

[Ask Mr. Religion]

Can you see he is saying God should look would favor upon him as a result?

The "he" you refer to mentions her husband in her testimony that you purportedly read.

AMR

 

[ClimateSanity]

The "he" you refer to mentions her husband in her testimony that you purportedly read.

AMR

?????
And?????

 

[Saxon Hammer]

Human emotional love and agapé are on hugely differing levels and abilities to share. Agapé is the love of Elohim for man and of man for Elohim. It is more often than not confused, as you have done, with philia – brotherly love .

No I think it is you who have read INTO my words BUT this is no cause for argument. I understand your reference loosely (I will dig further) and do grasp the concerns you raise. However I am man and can only speak as man in the ministry of God all around and in us.