Penitence is a disgusting man inspired vile doctrine. It is used in place of repentance. It puts emphasis on man and the sorrow of the world. Not reverent sorrow that flows from and leads to further repentance.
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Penitence is a disgusting man inspired vile doctrine. It is used in place of repentance. It puts emphasis on man and the sorrow of the world. Not reverent sorrow that flows from and leads to further repentance.
You didn't enter by the gate, but by another way.Your attempt at religion only stands until confronted by truth and the manner in which you respond to truth proves that you are under an energised delusion and that you have been caused to believe the delusion.
popsthebuilder
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There is no doubt that the very elect are destined before the formation of the earth.
There is no doubt that man has the freedom to choose to follow the calling of the Christ, or to, against all things good and right, turn from it wholly unto eternal damnation in the form of utter destruction. Man too has the capacity to do little to nothing after receiving that wondrous calling. But we should too remember that only very few are elect, and those who are not are blessed in their innocent ignorance. Man will not be cast out due to the misguidance of those who willingly turned themselves and the lost sheep around.
Matthew: 13. 4. And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up: 5. Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: 6. And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. 7. And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them: 8. But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. 9. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Can it not be concluded that our freedom is seemingly, within our own capacities to grasp, that of the will of GOD?
That is to say that GOD in love for creation (namely man) did not make us prisoners to his Will like the stone or plant. It is seemingly the will of GOD for man to have freedom of choice to some extent. That is not to say that the very elect can be moved ultimately from the love of GOD or it's manifold fruit, but that in our near sightedness we can in no way grasp the soveirgn province of GOD, nor can we wholly and fully express the manifold blessings.
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What a bozo thing to say.
If you have claimed one as guilty of fear mongering, then you have indeed claimed they are a fear mongerer.
marhig
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You butt in to many posts that don't concern you! And it's the way you say it, as if you're above others with your "I've tried to teach you but you don't listen" attitude. Especially as you're teaching a false gospel!
popsthebuilder
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Nonsense; it is in no way before GOD can act, and is a reference to a time after initial salvation.
Your damned lies are beginning to get old. Not tiresome though.
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I don't know how you arrive at that conclusion.
Israel is elect, and Israel is promised they will be as numerous as the sands of the seashores.
God's Truth
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What a blessing that you all live within a few streets of each other! Now that is something that I desire.
Thank you for the support on teaching our children and grandchildren.
Nang
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You can't get away from the erroneous opinion that salvation is conditioned on a decision a man must make. It then proceeds to man needing to continue works to earn points. No points, no blessings and no growth. What a sad existence what a feeble saviour, that is no Saviour, because He must wait for a sinner to respond with permission to save. No permission, no salvation.
popsthebuilder
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More nonsensical attempted confusion I see. Kudos to you sir.
Are you not even aware that the things of GOD as they pertains to His will for man are simple and not things of confusion?
penitent is a word synonymous with repentant.
As if words with synonymous meanings are wholly opposite.
Repentance is brought about by sincere want to do the will of GOD in your personal life. Oft times shame and sorrow will be for a term. It is pain brought about by misdirection and just like other types of pain receptors in your body; it signifies the genuine and very real need for change within ones own life. For you to speak such a way about it shows you and I perhaps actually do not share a similar experience.
Luke: 14. 8. When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; 9. And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. 10. But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. 11. For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
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popsthebuilder
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Oh wow, you don't even grasp that there are two gates and that the wide one is the one of the deciever.
Oh wait....Yes you do.
Silly silly
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It was not some 'spiritual Israel' GOD made the promise to.Right . . speaking of spiritual "Israel;" the church body of Jesus Christ.
It was the real, literal, physical, earthly Israel that GOD chose as His people, led them out of the bondage of Egypt, made a covenant with, and led them into the promised land.
popsthebuilder
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Not at all. Are we not to hate sin but not sinner?
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popsthebuilder
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Nice refutation of plain simple scripture.
Thank you again and again
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Nang
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Promises kept . . prophecy made.
Double applications of Truth.
Literalism robs you of the depths of the Word of God.
glorydaz
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What Jesus preached before the cross, He accomplished for believers on the cross.
Yes, I realize you don't know what Paul taught, or you'd have looked at the context of those verses and wouldn't have used them for a proof text.
The verses following the one you took out of context explain it. That "form of doctrine" Paul is talking about is the Gospel and the righteousness of faith.
Romans 6:17-18 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:6-7 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.
You did the same with the verse you took out of context from chapter 8. You look at what's written as a man still in the flesh....which is why you see they apply to you. You are trying to put off that old man of the flesh by your own efforts.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Believers have been crucified with Christ, and you keep trying to crucify yourself. All workers are doing the same.
Gal. 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
marhig
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As I've said to you before, have a good look at yourself in the mirror!
God's Truth
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I can hardly believe what you say to me. I would not listen to you, and I do not want to be anything like you.
glorydaz
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Stuck on the wrong side of the cross. :nono:
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