For whosoever shall call upon the name of the lord shall be saved!

beloved57

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Rom 10:13

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

It's very unfortunate that religionists hath corrupted this verse to make it teach salvation by works, by what a person does. They make"calling upon the name of the lord" a condition man must perform in order to get saved! That folks is a lie, that's promoting salvation by works, by what a person does! However what Paul is teaching is this, whosoever is calling upon the name of the lord, shall be saved, as to say, they shall be in a saved state, that is the calling upon the name of the lord is evidence that they are saved, and or being saved!

In other words Paul is saying, you want to know who it is that Christ has saved , and is saving by putting His Spirit in them? Its whosoever is calling upon the name of the lord, they shall be saved! The action of calling upon the name of the lord is evidence and proof that they are being saved from the power of sin and unbelief!
 
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Nanja

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Rom 10:13

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

It's very unfortunate that religionists hath corrupted this verse to make it teach salvation by works, by what a person does. They make"calling upon the name of the lord" a condition man must perform in order to get saved! That folks is a lie, that's promoting salvation by works, by what a person does! However what Paul is teaching is this, whosoever is calling upon the name of the lord shall be saved, as to say, they shall be in a saved state, that is the calling upon the name of the lord is evidence that are saved, and or being saved!

In other words Paul is saying, you want to know who it is that Christ has saved , and is saving by putting His Spirit in them? Its whosoever is calling upon the name of the lord, they shall be saved! The action of calling upon the name of the lord is evidence and proof that they are being saved from the power of sin and unbelief!


Yes, only those whose sins are forgiven, shall be experientially quickened, or made spiritually alive in New Birth, and Call upon His Name.

Col. 2:13
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

These are the same ones who were reconciled to God while being enemies and unbelievers:

Rom. 5:10
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

So every soul that was reconciled to God by Christ's death for them, they shall be quickened, Born of the Spirit and call upon His Name!

Rom. 8:14-16
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear;
but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

"Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His." Rom. 8:9
 

Robert Pate

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Rom 10:13

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

It's very unfortunate that religionists hath corrupted this verse to make it teach salvation by works, by what a person does. They make"calling upon the name of the lord" a condition man must perform in order to get saved! That folks is a lie, that's promoting salvation by works, by what a person does! However what Paul is teaching is this, whosoever is calling upon the name of the lord, shall be saved, as to say, they shall be in a saved state, that is the calling upon the name of the lord is evidence that they are saved, and or being saved!

In other words Paul is saying, you want to know who it is that Christ has saved , and is saving by putting His Spirit in them? Its whosoever is calling upon the name of the lord, they shall be saved! The action of calling upon the name of the lord is evidence and proof that they are being saved from the power of sin and unbelief!

No one will be saved that does not respond to the Gospel of Jesus Christ with a heart full of love and thanksgiving for what Jesus has done for them.

You must have a heart of stone to think that Christ shed his blood for you on the cross and you don't have to respond?

No response is a response.
 

beloved57

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Must One Believe to "Be Saved?"

This is a continuation of the OP subject, I'm sharing a article that explains the meaning of " to be saved " !

It's by a old school Baptist Minister. This doesn't mean that I endorse that denomination, but only this article in the main points of it!



In a word, YES, but not for the reasons most people think. However, those who believe in what is called High Calvinism or Unconditional Election and Predestination or Particular Redemption such as the Primitive Baptists, some times say, No, you don't have to believe in order to be saved. This difficulty arises from a misconception, sometimes in both Calvinists and Arminians, about what it means to be saved.

First, the Bible makes a distinction between being saved eternally (eternal life) and being saved in time (conversion). That does not mean that eternal salvation and salvation in time are mutually exclusive. The fact is one begets the other. Salvation is a broad term that encompasses both eternal life and conversion. Therefore, those who experience eternal life will likewise experience conversion. But confusion arises when a failure is made to distinguish the meaning of a small but significant word be.

Most modern Christians, because of false theology, think the scriptures teach that to be means the same thing as to get. However, there is an important difference between the two. If the Bible taught that one must believe in order to get saved, then salvation would be by our own effort. But the Bible teaches one must believe in order to be saved. The word be indicates a statement of fact. The word get indicates a condition to be met.

What's the difference? Mark 16:16 states, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Clearly this scripture is talking about salvation in both its temporal and eternal aspect. Many Christians today have been taught that scriptures such as this one mean you must believe in order to get saved. But that is not at all what Christ said. The term "shall be saved" is translated from the Greek word sodzo. In this passage the verb sodzo is in the Future Tense, Passive Voice, Indicative Mood. The Online Bible says, "The indicative mood is a simple statement of fact." Because sodzo is written in the indicative mood, it means the salvation Christ has under consideration is not and cannot be a condition to be met. It means that belief is the evidence or assurance of salvation not the means to obtain salvation. It means that everyone who has been saved or will "be saved" will believe in Christ as a matter of fact. Thus, as this scripture demonstrates, belief is necessary because of salvation not to get salvation.

If Christ had rendered sodzo in the imperative mood, then one would be correct in saying you must believe in order to get saved. The Online Bible defines the imperative mood as that which, "expresses a command to the hearer to perform a certain action by the order and authority of the one commanding." A good example of a scripture with an imperative command is found in the Great Commission. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, Mathew 28:19. "Teach" is from the Greek word matheteuo. This verb is written in the imperative mood and expresses a clear command to the disciples to teach the nations Christ's doctrine.

Another example of sodzo is found in Ro 10:9, That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. And again in Ro 10:13, For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. In both of these scriptures sodzo is rendered in the indicative mood. Therefore it is a statement of fact that anyone who confesses belief in Jesus and His resurrection, calling upon His name from the heart, will be saved. Because the mood is indicative, it is not the belief, confession or sincerity that results in the saving, either in time or in eternity. Jesus Christ is the Saviour. He saves with the power of his shed blood and by grace alone delivers the sinner from death. Belief, confession and sincerity from the heart are all the result of Christ's saving work not the cause or means to obtain that saving work.

The recipients of this sovereign saving work of Christ are referred to in the scriptures as my sheep, His People, my people, the chosen, the elect and Israel (spiritual). John 10:27, Mathew 1:21, II Corinthians 6:16, Ephesians 1:4, II Timothy 2:10, Romans 9:6-24.

It is true that one doesn't have to believe in order to get saved but the Bible teaches a person must believe to be saved.
http://www.oldschoolbaptist.org/Articles/MustOneBelieveToBeSaved.htm
 

beloved57

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No one will be saved that does not respond to the Gospel of Jesus Christ with a heart full of love and thanksgiving for what Jesus has done for them.

You must have a heart of stone to think that Christ shed his blood for you on the cross and you don't have to respond?

No response is a response.

This thread shows why your false teaching is condemned as salvation by works, the action of man!
 

Robert Pate

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God does NOTHING outside of his Son Jesus Christ.

If you want to be saved you will have to go through Christ.

Jesus said, "No one can come to the Father but by me" John 14:6.
 

Prizebeatz1

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The salvation of the personality is always dependent on something like calling on the name of the Lord, having faith or believing in Jesus, for example. This is a delusion. The true salvation of God is unconditional. It doesn't depend on anything because it is already accomplished.


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Nanja

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Must One Believe to "Be Saved?"

This is a continuation of the OP subject, I'm sharing a article that explains the meaning of " to be saved " !

It's by a old school Baptist Minister. This doesn't mean that I endorse that denomination, but only this article in the main points of it!


The recipients of this sovereign saving work of Christ are referred to in the scriptures as my sheep, His People, my people, the chosen, the elect and Israel (spiritual). John 10:27, Mathew 1:21, II Corinthians 6:16, Ephesians 1:4, II Timothy 2:10, Romans 9:6-24.

It is true that one doesn't have to believe in order to get saved but the Bible teaches a person must believe to be saved.
http://www.oldschoolbaptist.org/Arti...eToBeSaved.htm


Thank You Brother for sharing this very edifying article!

Huge difference between "be saved" and "get saved", indicative mood vs. imperative mood.
 

Evil.Eye.<(I)>

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Your condemnation will be greater and greater as each day go by because of the light you are sinning against!

The calling each other lost nonsense isn't for me, but the only light that Robert ever trashes is false light. He exalts Christ and puts low those that would glorify any other in Christ's place.

You are the one that is in darkness. I have the scriptures. You have the doctrine of a heretic.

I can't disagree with a word Robert has written here. It is forever disgusting to see the dogma of man exalted over the Saccrifice and Perfect Work of God!

Why are fellow Christians turning and rending one another here? It is clearly because some exalt man over God.

The addition of man made doctrines such as Calvinism are indeed blemishes at Love feasts.
 

beloved57

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The calling each other lost nonsense isn't for me, but the only light that Robert ever trashes is false light. He exalts Christ and puts low those that would glorify any other in Christ's place.



I can't disagree with a word Robert has written here. It is forever disgusting to see the dogma of man exalted over the Saccrifice and Perfect Work of God!

Why are fellow Christians turning and rending one another here? It is clearly because some exalt man over God.

The addition of man made doctrines such as Calvinism are indeed blemishes at Love feasts.

The blind leading the blind lol
 

God's Truth

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Rom 10:13

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

It's very unfortunate that religionists hath corrupted this verse to make it teach salvation by works, by what a person does. They make"calling upon the name of the lord" a condition man must perform in order to get saved! That folks is a lie, that's promoting salvation by works, by what a person does! However what Paul is teaching is this, whosoever is calling upon the name of the lord, shall be saved, as to say, they shall be in a saved state, that is the calling upon the name of the lord is evidence that they are saved, and or being saved!

In other words Paul is saying, you want to know who it is that Christ has saved , and is saving by putting His Spirit in them? Its whosoever is calling upon the name of the lord, they shall be saved! The action of calling upon the name of the lord is evidence and proof that they are being saved from the power of sin and unbelief!

Those who call upon the Lord had better of repented of their sins.
 
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