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@User Name broke, and entered illegally through a glass window into the Capitol on J6:
For proof, see here.
Fiona Hill: "The president was trying to stage a coup"
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Arthur Brain
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Which shouldn't have included being sprayed with chemicals and dealing with morons.
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Look, police officers have to deal with a lot of crap from idiots every day, and being sprayed with pepper spray is even part of their training, so they know what it feels like, and can be better prepared to deal with it if it happens.
Pepper spray.
He was sprayed with pepper spray.
You make it sound like he was doused in some horrible toxic sludge or something.
Pretty sure Media (incorrectly) claimed he died after being struck in the head with a fire extinguisher (which the footage shown above prooves to be a false claim), but the D.C. medical examiner reported no injuries to Sicknick, relegating his death to "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis" (iow, two strokes at the base of the brain stem caused by an artery clot), his death being caused by a disease alone. Also, there was no evidence of blunt-force trauma (such as being hit with a fire extinguisher) or evidence that he had had an allergic reaction to chemical irritants (such as pepper spray).
Again, in the clip shown in the quoted post, the footage of which being recorded AFTER he was supposedly killed, he seemed to be going about his duties guiding people through the interior of the building just fine, wearing his officer uniform, seemingly as if he was never sprayed with pepper spray.
I deal with morons every day. People are stupid. Think of how stupid the average person is. Now realize that half the people in the world are even stupider. Fact of life. His job as a police officer was no different in that respect.
Astute observation, George Carlin.
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ok doser
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If you look really close in the back you can see Ted Cruz murdering AOC
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Arthur Brain
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They can do yes, but they don't expect to be caught up in somewhere like the Capitol building dealing with a bunch of invading, far right, election denying morons. There was some initial confusion as regards reports and yep, no blunt force trauma occurred and no allergic reaction to the spray but that doesn't rule out the events of that pathetic day playing it's part in his demise, stress and trauma can result in a stroke. May just be a horrible coincidence or it may not.
If that's a clip from the two faced excuse for a "news host" Tucker Car;son, then I'm not one of those in your latter bit that's gullible and stupid enough to buy into anything he says or Fox itself.
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What do you mean by "belong to antifa"?
And why do you try (in laughable futility) to distance Democrats from the infamous name and violent criminal reputation of Antifa, while at the same time you try (also in laughable futility) to whitewash that name and reputation?
Why is it you end up trying to whitewash Antifa while you are trying to whitewash the Democrats, if Antifa is not relevant to the Democrats?
If that's true, then why do you try to distance the infamous name and criminal reputation of Antifa from the Democrats?
Why do you obsessively act offended at criticism against Antifa?
Why do you try to sound so triumphant in your attempts to whitewash vicious miscreants whose infamous name and criminal reputation you try to distance from the Democrats?
What's that to you? Why are you trying to whitewash Antifa from that claim?
Most of the people in the footage that I've seen were allowed into the building.
By definition, NOT invading.
You keep using this slur as if it means something. Most "Republicans" aren't even right wing, let alone "far right."
More rhetoric.
Now you're just being mean.
What part of...
... do you not understand?
"By a disease alone."
Not by stress, not by trauma.
Disease.
It's a clip from his show that proves he was alive and well AFTER he was supposedly killed. Here, have a watch.
I don't watch Fox News. Don't have the time nor patience to deal with ever-leftwards-progressing presenting of the news.
What I care about are the facts.
The facts are that Sicknick was not killed by anyone on January 6th.
The one gullible and stupid enough here is the one who has bought into the lie that he was.
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The left has to misrepresent this, just as they had to misrepresent the lethal dosage of fentanyl found in George Floyd's autopsy
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What footage is it that you have seen exactly that would lead you to believe that 'most people were allowed into the building'?!
Not all Republicans are far right and plenty, thankfully have sense to distance themselves away from fringe and extremist elements.
Election deniers are either stupid or have some sort of condition that precludes them from acknowledging reality. That's not 'rhetoric' and it's hardly 'mean' to point out the stupidity of the MAGA crowd, Qanon adherents and the far right in general either. You're not shy about calling people stupid yourself are ya? In fact, you seem to think yourself above the average person in terms of intelligence given your quote following?
"I deal with morons every day. People are stupid. Think of how stupid the average person is. Now realize that half the people in the world are even stupider. Fact of life. His job as a police officer was no different in that respect."
What part of anything I wrote in regards to Sicknick are you not understanding? Nobody is disputing he was alive on the day of the attack itself. If you actually do care about facts then why on earth are you linking to a Tucker Carlson video?!!
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Caught my eye because of the Rochester connection, turns out it's Rochester Minnesota.
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The Parliamentary Motive Behind the J6 Fedsurrection - The Last Refuge
The Ring of Truth – “I am too well accustomed to the taking of evidence not to detect the ring of truth.” 1908, Edith Wharton Much has been made of the events of January 6, 2021, and with the latest broadcast of CCTV video from inside the Capitol Hill complex, more questions have been raised. […]
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♦ Q1: How do you prevent congress from delaying the certification of state electoral votes?
A: It requires a crisis. A crisis that creates an “emergency” …An “emergency” that invokes special house rules.
FACTS: Remember carefully, focus please. Just moments, literally 3 minutes before two representatives issued a vote for motions to suspend the certification, the House members were “informed” by capitol police and other “agents” that a protest was about to breach the chambers. It was at this time that key people: Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, Mcconnell can be seen being walked out and escorted from the chamber. This effectively halted the Entire Chamber Process.
♦ Q2: Why was it necessary to halt the chamber process?
A: The crisis was created to eliminate the motion challenges to halt the certification and to begin voting to look into voting irregularities and fraud
FACTS: The two motions were completely legal and constitutional under at least two constitutionally recognized procedures… procedures that would REQUIRE the house to pause the certification and then vote to determine whether the motions of suspend could move forward.
♦ Q3: What was so important to refuse this motion and the subsequent votes to suspend the electoral certification?
A: It was important to remove that process entirely and continue the fraud and certify the fraud with no detractors on record. This effectively gives no standing for a SCOTUS ruling appeal! Understand this. If those two motions, even just one had successfully been voted EVEN IF THE MOTIONS were DENIED IN VOTE, this gives those who presented them with STANDING FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL ARGUMENT BEFORE SCOTUS.
♦ Q4: Could this have been done some other way other than creating a crisis/protest?
A: Unlikely. In order to prevent those two motions, requires that speaker of the house, minority leaders, and the president of the congress (vice president of the United States: Pence), to NOT BE PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS.
Once the capitol police and other “law enforcements agents” informed the speaker and these three other individuals, Pelosi UNILATERALLY UNDER EMERGENCY RULES, suspended the business of the congress. This protest was necessary. The crisis was created because there is no other way to suspend the business of certification UNILATERALLY. By creating a crisis invokes emergency procedures. No other circumstances other than war or mass simultaneous explosive diarrhea can create such unilateral speaker delivered suspension of the certification.
♦ Q5: Why did the motions, once that the speaker RECONVENED congress, move forward back again to the floor for votes? Why were members disallowed to even consider putting forward ANY motions to the floor in when the chamber business was reopened?
A: The Speaker initiated the NEW sessions under special emergency rules. These rules abandon and make it clear that the ONLY purpose of the new session was to EXPEDITE the certification and dismiss all prior regular session procedural rules. This is why those two motions to table votes to consider a debate and pause to the certifications of state vote electors never happened later that evening when the house business was reconvened!
♦ Q6: Other than new rules, emergency rules, what other peculiar things occurred when the speaker reconvened?
A: Members were allowed to “vote” in proxy, remotely, not being present. You can use your imagination about what conditions were placed on ALL members during this time to prevent anyone from “getting out of line”.
Also clearly, it was at THIS NEW SESSION that VP Pence, President of Congress, would also have no ability to even consider pausing the electoral certification, because there were no motions of disagreements on the matter. So, in a technical legal claim, he is correct that he had no constitutional authority to address any issues of fraud or doubts about electoral irregularities. But this completely dismisses the FACT that congress created rules in this crisis/emergency that never allowed them to be floored!
Understand what happened in Jan 6, 2021. Don’t get hung up on Viking impostors, stolen Pelosi computers, podium heists, and complicit capitol police. Understand the process and what happened and what WAS NOT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
This was a coup….it was a very organized and carefully planned coup. VP Pence without a doubt as well as most members of the house were quite aware of how the certification was going to be MANAGED. It would require new rules to prevent the debate clause from occurring! New rules that ONLY AN EMERGENCY CRISIS COULD CREATE! So, they created an emergency.
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Would you consider that a coup? Are you now conceding that Trump is not an insurrectionist? Is that your sarcastic way of admitting that you don't really believe stuff about Trump like what you allege, here:
Kellyanne Conway: "Jared is the only person I think who has benefited in the billions from the Trump presidency."
