WizardofOz
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If you don't know anything about me, stop making false claims about my political identity. i.e. :sozo: stop lying
Are you capable?
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If you don't know anything about me, stop making false claims about my political identity. i.e. :sozo: stop lying
Are you capable?
Tell us all you're not a leftist, tell us what you are. Tell us you're not a leftist but just anti-Trump.
Ive never seen WOZ come out in support of homosexuality and hes always seemed moderate to right, to me.
I didnt vote for Trump either, and only someone who had lost their mind, would accuse me of being a leftist.
Well, apparently Wiz has made enough posts against what I believe to convince me he's leaning left. I don't save quotes or make a record of them, but I got this idea about him somehow. Now make it about you being called a leftist, that makes sense
WizardofOz
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I'm not decidedly anti-Trump. I have pointed out positive and negative aspects of his presidency and of his character. I am still hopeful that he can make some positive change in Washington. He will, however, join a long list of politicians that I would never invite into my own home.
What would you like to know? As Angel correctly pointed out, I am quite a moderate/centrist. I would be more than happy to answer any specific questions you may have so that we can clear that air and hopefully have you stop making the baseless declarations about my beliefs and social views.
WizardofOz
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I suppose everything is relative to the extreme these days, politically speaking.
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So you don't have any actual evidence but simply go by 'whims'. That's a good way to go about things, pj
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I posted an earlier result from a different quiz...here is another with more a less authoritarian slant but still quite moderate...
Ugh. I cannot paste in the result but here is the text...
My red dot was right over the 't' and 'a' in 'libertarian'
Ugh. I cannot paste in the result but here is the text...
| Quiz results Collective vs Individual preferences Social 80% Economic 80% collective-individual Political philosophy Your political philosophy is: Libertarian Libertarians believe the Government shall have a limited role, putting freedom before both in economic and social terms. Candidates The 2012 presidential candidates with a philisophy closer to yours are: Gary Johnson (Libertarian Party)Johnson (distance: 18,03) Mitt Romney (Republican Party)Romney (distance: 41,23) Barack Obama (Democratic Party)Obama (distance: 47,43) Rocky Anderson (Justice Party)Anderson (distance: 65,19) Show on chart >> Nolan Chart |
My red dot was right over the 't' and 'a' in 'libertarian'
I'll stop. Maybe I haven't seen you really speak out strongly about one issue or another. I do go by my feelings because I can usually trust them. Impressions I get from the words I read. Sorry if I pegged you wrong, I'm only trying to stifle your free speech, like Antifa. :chuckle:So you don't have any actual evidence but simply go by 'whims'. That's a good way to go about things, pj
WizardofOz
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Try some of these quizzes. They only take a few minutes. I'd be curious to see where you fall on actual issues rather than on the cult of personality.
http://www.polquiz.com/
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
I've posted my results to both. I am right in the middle but lean away from authoritative.
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Alt-Right Frames Protesters as Pedophiles With Fake NAMBLA Sign
When Columbia students denounced Mike Cernovich, a masked man jumped in front of them, raised a child molester banner, and the photo went viral. Even Trump Jr. liked it.
When Columbia students denounced Mike Cernovich, a masked man jumped in front of them, raised a child molester banner, and the photo went viral. Even Trump Jr. liked it.
The alt-right framed student protesters as pedophiles on Monday night. Within 90 minutes, even Donald Trump Jr. had bought into the hoax.
Mike Cernovich, an alt-right conspiracy theorist, was at Columbia University Monday night to give a speech to the school’s College Republicans club. But when students protested outside the event, trolls posed in front of them with a banner promoting NABLA: the North American Man-Boy Love Association. Cernovich and other alt-right figures quickly copied a journalist’s picture of the sign and tweeted it as evidence that the anti-Cernovich protesters were pro-pedophile.
The demonstration, organized by Columbia students, was in protest of Cernovich and other far-right speakers at the school
“This goes beyond what college Republicans are planning in terms of speakers,” student Jasmeen Nijjar who helped organize the protests told The Daily Beast. “It’s also about Columbia being in the Harlem community, and how pervasive the idea of white supremacy is, and how complicit Columbia is to allow such speakers on campus.”
Writer Jake Offenhartz was covering the protests for the New York City blog Gothamist when at least one masked man moved to the front of the crowd with a large banner that read:
“No white supremacy, no pedo bashing, no Mike Cernovich,” over a slew of logos including one that read “New York City Antifa” and another that read “NAMBLA.”
At least two people at the Columbia event “unveiled the banner and handed it to a couple of people who held it without really of looking at it,” before disappearing into the crowd Offenhartz told The Daily Beast.
“But 30 minutes after Offenhartz tweeted the picture, Cernovich copied it and posted it without context or credit.”
Mistee Denson, a Columbia graduate student who organized the protests said the protest had approximately 250 attendees, many of whom students did not recognize.
“There were a lot of faces we didn’t recognize, and a lot of people with their own signs with their own opinions,” Denson told The Daily Beast. “We were behind the sign and didn’t know what it said. Somebody said ‘hey can you hold this for a second?’ They were disguised as antifa.”
But protesters were quick to pick up on the ploy.
“People involved with these protests are very cognizant about plants, so they realized very quickly what was happening,” Offenhartz said. “It was up for about 10 seconds before a couple protesters ran over, explained what was happening, and threw it to the ground and ripped it up.”
Offenhartz took a picture of the NAMBLA sign and tweeted it, noting that it was the product of trolls who sometimes plague protests. “Alt right strikes first at Columbia Cernovich event, plants NAMBLA-branded sign in front of protest march,” he wrote.
Inside at Cernovich’s speech, the alt-righter also accused protesters of supporting pedophiles. “He kept saying ‘you support pedophilia,’ repeatedly,” Denson said. “He kept saying ‘you just love pedophilia’ over and over again.”
30 minutes after Offenhartz tweeted the picture, Cernovich copied it and posted it without context or credit. “NAMBLA sign at Columbia protests,” Cernovich tweeted, “these people are sick.”
Other alt-right personalities like Jack Posobiec and Watson quickly followed suit, with Watson writing an InfoWars post “Antifa Activists Carry Pro-Pedophile Sign At Cernovich Protest.”
And in under two hours, Donald Trump Jr. was buying into the conspiracy theory. The president’s son liked Cernovich’s tweet calling protestors “sick,” as well as two tweets from Watson that claimed “antifa and social justice warriors” were allying with pedophiles, and that the picture was “coffin nails to the left.”
Nevermind that actual leftist protesters had ripped up the sign within seconds, or that the rest of Offenhartz’s pictures revealed that the banner had been removed.
Alt-righters sometimes pose as leftists in an effort to discredit them. Right-wing tweeter Jack Posobiec has previously planted a “Rape Melania” sign to incriminate leftist protestors, and posed as a representative of the Women’s March at a pro-net neutrality rally where he distributed flyers claiming to thank net neutrality advocates for “protecting our quality violent porn content,” including “ritual Satanic porn videos.”
As for NAMBLA, it’s more or less dead, a 2016 Vice investigation found. The organization reportedly boasts almost no members, let alone a coalition of protesters who would choose to demonstrate against Cernovich, who was charged with rape in 2003 (it was downgraded to misdemeanor battery.
Mike Cernovich, an alt-right conspiracy theorist, was at Columbia University Monday night to give a speech to the school’s College Republicans club. But when students protested outside the event, trolls posed in front of them with a banner promoting NABLA: the North American Man-Boy Love Association. Cernovich and other alt-right figures quickly copied a journalist’s picture of the sign and tweeted it as evidence that the anti-Cernovich protesters were pro-pedophile.
The demonstration, organized by Columbia students, was in protest of Cernovich and other far-right speakers at the school
“This goes beyond what college Republicans are planning in terms of speakers,” student Jasmeen Nijjar who helped organize the protests told The Daily Beast. “It’s also about Columbia being in the Harlem community, and how pervasive the idea of white supremacy is, and how complicit Columbia is to allow such speakers on campus.”
Writer Jake Offenhartz was covering the protests for the New York City blog Gothamist when at least one masked man moved to the front of the crowd with a large banner that read:
“No white supremacy, no pedo bashing, no Mike Cernovich,” over a slew of logos including one that read “New York City Antifa” and another that read “NAMBLA.”
At least two people at the Columbia event “unveiled the banner and handed it to a couple of people who held it without really of looking at it,” before disappearing into the crowd Offenhartz told The Daily Beast.
“But 30 minutes after Offenhartz tweeted the picture, Cernovich copied it and posted it without context or credit.”
Mistee Denson, a Columbia graduate student who organized the protests said the protest had approximately 250 attendees, many of whom students did not recognize.
“There were a lot of faces we didn’t recognize, and a lot of people with their own signs with their own opinions,” Denson told The Daily Beast. “We were behind the sign and didn’t know what it said. Somebody said ‘hey can you hold this for a second?’ They were disguised as antifa.”
But protesters were quick to pick up on the ploy.
“People involved with these protests are very cognizant about plants, so they realized very quickly what was happening,” Offenhartz said. “It was up for about 10 seconds before a couple protesters ran over, explained what was happening, and threw it to the ground and ripped it up.”
Offenhartz took a picture of the NAMBLA sign and tweeted it, noting that it was the product of trolls who sometimes plague protests. “Alt right strikes first at Columbia Cernovich event, plants NAMBLA-branded sign in front of protest march,” he wrote.
Inside at Cernovich’s speech, the alt-righter also accused protesters of supporting pedophiles. “He kept saying ‘you support pedophilia,’ repeatedly,” Denson said. “He kept saying ‘you just love pedophilia’ over and over again.”
30 minutes after Offenhartz tweeted the picture, Cernovich copied it and posted it without context or credit. “NAMBLA sign at Columbia protests,” Cernovich tweeted, “these people are sick.”
Other alt-right personalities like Jack Posobiec and Watson quickly followed suit, with Watson writing an InfoWars post “Antifa Activists Carry Pro-Pedophile Sign At Cernovich Protest.”
And in under two hours, Donald Trump Jr. was buying into the conspiracy theory. The president’s son liked Cernovich’s tweet calling protestors “sick,” as well as two tweets from Watson that claimed “antifa and social justice warriors” were allying with pedophiles, and that the picture was “coffin nails to the left.”
Nevermind that actual leftist protesters had ripped up the sign within seconds, or that the rest of Offenhartz’s pictures revealed that the banner had been removed.
Alt-righters sometimes pose as leftists in an effort to discredit them. Right-wing tweeter Jack Posobiec has previously planted a “Rape Melania” sign to incriminate leftist protestors, and posed as a representative of the Women’s March at a pro-net neutrality rally where he distributed flyers claiming to thank net neutrality advocates for “protecting our quality violent porn content,” including “ritual Satanic porn videos.”
As for NAMBLA, it’s more or less dead, a 2016 Vice investigation found. The organization reportedly boasts almost no members, let alone a coalition of protesters who would choose to demonstrate against Cernovich, who was charged with rape in 2003 (it was downgraded to misdemeanor battery.
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The right-wing's favorite Internet personality was just outed as a Russian troll
Jenna Abrams’ tweets were beloved, at times, by both the alt-right and the celebrity blogosphere. Now, Congressional investigators have confirmed that her Twitter account was actually run out of St. Petersburg, Russia’s infamous troll farm.
According to The Daily Beast, the “Abrams” account that initially became famous after “fixing” a nude selfie posted by Kim Kardashian was run, along with thousands of others, by the Kremlin-funded Internet Research Agency. The account, which was supposed to be run by an American blogger, soon pivoted to right-wing rhetoric, including a professed belief in segregation.
Before she became a favorite among the reactionary right-wing set, however, “Abrams’ account built up an image of a straight-talking, no-nonsense, viral-tweet-writing young American woman.” After building a following with funny takes on pop culture and feminism, “she would push divisive views on immigration, segregation and Donald Trump” in the lead-up to the 2016 presidential election.
Abrams’ tweets were published everywhere from InfoWars to USA Today and Sputnik to The Washington Post, and high-profile users like Roseanne Barr, Michael McFaul and even, once, Starbucks’ corporate account responded to her on Twitter. Rather than just being a standalone Twitter account, Abrams also had a personal website, a Gmail account, a Medium account and a GoFundMe page.
According to The Daily Beast, the “Abrams” account that initially became famous after “fixing” a nude selfie posted by Kim Kardashian was run, along with thousands of others, by the Kremlin-funded Internet Research Agency. The account, which was supposed to be run by an American blogger, soon pivoted to right-wing rhetoric, including a professed belief in segregation.
Before she became a favorite among the reactionary right-wing set, however, “Abrams’ account built up an image of a straight-talking, no-nonsense, viral-tweet-writing young American woman.” After building a following with funny takes on pop culture and feminism, “she would push divisive views on immigration, segregation and Donald Trump” in the lead-up to the 2016 presidential election.
Abrams’ tweets were published everywhere from InfoWars to USA Today and Sputnik to The Washington Post, and high-profile users like Roseanne Barr, Michael McFaul and even, once, Starbucks’ corporate account responded to her on Twitter. Rather than just being a standalone Twitter account, Abrams also had a personal website, a Gmail account, a Medium account and a GoFundMe page.