beloved57
Well-known member
You don't know what the World is in Jn 3:16. You don't believe Jn 3:16.
Faith and the Spirit Come By Hearing and Believing the Gospel
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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John 3:16 is one of the best known verses in all the Bible, doubtless because it states the Gospel so clearly and simply. It summarizes what the Lord Jesus had been teaching Nicodemus concerning the manner by which the new birth is received. God, we read, so loved the world. The world here includes all mankind. God does not love men's sins or the wicked world system but he loves people and is not willing that any should perish. The extent of His love is shown by the fact that He gave His only begotten Son. God has no other Son like the Lord Jesus. It was an expression of His infinite love that He would be willing to give His unique Son for a race of rebel sinners. This does not mean that everyone is saved. A person must receive what Christ has done for him before God will give him eternal life. Therefore the words are added "that whosoever believes in Him should not perish." There is no need for anyone to perish. A way has been provided by which all might be saved, but a person must acknowledge the Lord Jesus Christ as personal savior. When he does this, he has eternal life.( The Believer's Bible Commentary) That B57 and Nanja is the meaning of John 3:16. Hope you read it well and get it right since as of now you have it wrong!
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
No, BR, it is you who has it wrong.
It is when one acknowledges Jesus that they can be assured of his/her place in Christ.
For without God revealing that Jesus is he who was to come, nobody will acknowledge it.
Stop listening to the inglorious bastards, aka glory thieves.
Jesus himself never stole any glory from the Father.
Sorry that you are unable to read. The commentary states exactly what you said. If it doesn't, show me where.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
OK, right here......
" A person must receive what Christ has done for him before God will give him eternal life."
However Jesus said.....
John 10:28
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Jesus is not God....
1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
In refuting the deity of Christ you prove yourself to be a non-christian. So what is your problem in the first place. If He is able to impart eternal life, who is He? Get your theology straight and you will be fine.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
I've never refuted the Deity of Christ.
The Son of God, aka Captain of my salvation.
I am in Christ, why would I need Theological theories based upon false teachings of men?
You need to know the truth and the truth will set you free.
John 1:1New American Standard Bible (NASB)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14New American Standard Bible (NASB)
14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
I read just fine.
And I showed you that yer copy pasted commentary did not say what I said.
So my question to you is, why would you think I should listen to you when it is you who needs a lesson in how to read?
I know who jesus is, you don't. Try again
First two sentences, correct. Where you got three and four from I have no idea.
If Jesus is not God, then who is he?
He said that he is one with the father, John 10:30.
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
Three and four define you and your ilk that think the cart can draw the horse.
And who do you say that Jesus is?
God's Truth
New member
You say, "Not only does faith come by hearing and believing the Gospel, the Holy Spirit is also given to those who hear and believe the Gospel."
You say that, and it is true, except that you left something out.
We mus believe AND OBEY.
Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."
The Holy Spirit is given to those WHO OBEY.
The only condition for one to be saved is to believe in Jesus, John 3:18.
Amen, Also Romans 10:9-10
God's Truth
New member
If one confesses that Jesus is Lord, they had better be obeying Jesus.
Luke 6:46 "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?
Faith alone is dead and cannot save anyone-- James.
God's Truth
New member
Believes WHAT? That is what you are leaving out and do not understand.
Did I ever say it was wrong to do what Jesus said?
God's Truth
New member
So do you agree we are to do more than just believe?