Exploring Jesus's Appearance in His Kingdom

Ps82

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But you have little evidence to back it up. We can speculate all day long, but if we don't then back it up with scripture, there's no value in it, and in fact it can lead you away from truth.
Let me see if I can provide some scripture. I have not studied this as thorough as other topics and do not have passages high lighted.
What is my "sentient spirit"? Where do we find such language in the bible?
I realize these two words ( "sentient spirit") just like the word "rapture" are not used explicitly in scripture, but the definitions are: sentient - able to perceive or feel things. I'll add self-awareness. Pair that with spirit and I get - a living created being who has self-awareness. Therefore, when my body dies I live on as a created spirit. Some people call this a soul. I guess that is acceptable for the time being.
Are you a believer Derf? If so, do you believe when you die your soul lives on and goes elsewhere ... like heaven or hell? If you believe this, then here is a verse which might support what I believe about that.

II Corinthians 5:1-10 I won't make people read all of that here ... but as a summary with flourishes of what I have learned: We MORTALS have a an earthly house after we are conceived and born of water. In this house we groan and die and our bodies/houses return to ground/dust. Vs 2 notes: We have a desire at that point that our sentient/self aware spirit desires to be cloth upon with a heavenly house so that we will not be naked/invisible! So that our mortality will be swallowed up with LIFE from God. We believers understand that it is this body that keeps us separated from the risen Lord. It is by faith that we are walk with hope that we are accepted by Him. For we will appear before the judgment seat of Christ ... receiving accordingly to the things done in this body ... whether good or bad.

Now, if God could establish this process of being born a mortal, physically dying, and then living after physical death in more super-natural/heavenly realms for mere human beings, then why would people deny this ability for our LORD God to have accomplished this for Jesus? For him, being the WORD OF GOD, to have been born as a mortal, died physically, raised his body from the dead and then ascended to other places. His self-aware spiritual essence as God was able to continue to exist after physical AND BE GIVEN A super-natural HOUSE/body in order TO RETURN TO EARTH AND APPEAR TO PEOPLE for 40 days?

Must stop now.
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See above.

See above.

But where do you see that in scripture? And you should first be able to define what you mean by sentient spirit.

Anytime you say that Jesus' death and resurrection were not like ours, you run great risk of spouting false doctrine. He was the "firstborn from the dead" (Col 1:18) and the "firstfruits of them that slept" (1Cor 15:20), meaning that we will follow in His resurrection footsteps.

Why do you think "His dead body was resurrected", but "he" wasn't?

Why do you put the word "spiritual" before "WORD"? Was He not "the WORD" who became flesh and dwelt among us?

If He really was human, then His death was really like human death. It wasn't just a body, but He took on human form...FOREVER.

God's Spirit? Do you mean the Holy Spirit? Nobody said the Holy Spirit died.

But Jesus, in dying became a life-giving spirit. If He didn't die, then He didn't rise from the dead. You can't make some convenient distinction between Jesus and His body once He became human just to fit your proposed theology.

If God was able to resurrect the mortal body that you say was NOT Jesus, why do we need to have our mortal bodies resurrected? What use is it? Yet that's what the bible says will happen.

It wasn't untouchable. Other translations say "stop clinging to me", indicating that Mary was already touching Him.

Jesus did supernatural things with His body before His Resurrection, like walking on water.

Scripture doesn't help you here. There's no indication that it will be a different body.

Yes, that tells us He was with the Father before, in glory, and will be with Him again in glory, but now in Human flesh.

Or, there's nothing different about how they behave--same goals, same thoughts, same morality, etc. They can't be the same person, because they communicate with each other. Yet they are the one God.

But you should suspect and question such insight, rather than take courage from it.

Again, question your speculations and keep questioning them, lest they lead you astray
Derf, I really appreciate your having a conversation with me. There is a lot here to discuss and I'm expecting grandkids over anytime now. Probably will address this in multiple posts.
 
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